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drfelatio


Apr 4, 2007, 4:12 AM

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Re: [iamthewallress] Borrowing gear and responsibliity
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iamthewallress wrote:
I'd be bummed if an experience friend borrowed my gear for whipping practice, as I tend to be extra careful on borrowed stuff just b/c I think it's polite.

But I think you deserve some beginners slack since you were borrowing the gear for a "learn trad" seminar where the instructor was encouraging you to fall on gear.

Like I said in my post above, if you're climbing w/ a beginner (or in this case, loaning gear to one), it's partly your responsability to guess the modes of error and warn against them or otherwise live with the consequences.

Excellent post and I agree on all points:

1) When you borrow something, be it a rack, a rope, or a friend's car, you treat it with extra care. You treat it how THEY want it to be treated, not how you would treat it as if it were yours.

2) You're absolutely right. She deserves some slack and I think I've been somewhat reasonable in trying to give it to her. The following is an excerpt from my initial e-mail to her:

In reply to:
Josie,

I want you to know that I am unhappy with the way you used my gear when you went to Red Rocks. However, I can only blame myself because I should have informed you, before you left, what is and what is not acceptable when you borrow someone else's gear....

3) Again, you're absolutely correct. As you can see from my e-mail to her as well as in my posts in this thread and in the one on redrivercliming.com, I blame myself for not discussing this with her ahead of time.

The whole point of me raising this issue with her is not to be pissed off at her, but to educate her as to what I think is proper climber ethics in regards to borrowing gear.


(This post was edited by drfelatio on Apr 4, 2007, 4:20 AM)



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