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Re: [rgold] Dear Gunks climbers:
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wanderlustmd
Oct 3, 2007, 3:00 PM
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^ I agree, but the OP seems to be drawing a weird relationship between the act of TRing with ethics. He starts off with a rant about old school ground up (which I perfectly respect, btw) then goes on to saying that people have no buisness TRing routes because they "prevent" ascents in a similar style.
BS. First come, first serve. That said, one shouldn't hog route. It happens and can lead to frustration...we've all been there, but saying that TRing is "bad" goes a bit too far; "Top roping into submission..." give me a break! Get over yourself. Style is a personal thing, and if you climb in style that justifies your own point of view, who cares what someone else is doing as long as they aren't having a negative effect on the enviroment ( chipping and/or bolting like crazy) or jeopradizing access. The OPs post makes it seem like he feels threatened by TR climbers, which is an ego problem and not a ethics problem.
"With the dictums established by past generations of Gunks climbers and leave no trace ethics in mind, I chose to begin the task of eliminating unnecessary clutter from the rock. I took a first step by removing years of slings off of the classic Bonnie's Roof. Many arbitrary anchors as these abound throughout the Gunks which serve no purpose other than to facilitate the ease of a top-rope ascent of a nearby route."
I completely agree that excess webbing is unecessary/unsafe, and if people are leaving their TR rigs up then they should be removed, but to equate the practice TRing itself as bad ethics is wrong. It may be bad style in your opinion, but your style may be bad in someone elses. As long as they respect others (not hogging routes, etc.) and the environment (no excess webbing, bolting, and all that crap), people can climb in whatever style they want.
(This post was edited by wanderlustmd on Oct 3, 2007, 3:01 PM)
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Post edited by wanderlustmd
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