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jt512
Feb 13, 2008, 11:23 PM
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gunkiemike wrote: jt512 wrote: gunkiemike wrote: Wow, more creative quoting here. Jay, YOU were the first to use the term "friction" in this thread. You're right. I was the first to use the word friction as a succinct way to express your awkward phrase "sewn so tightly together that they won't separate." If you don't want credit for realizing that you're describing friction, so be it. In reply to: If it were about friction, I imagine we'd be hearing the manufacturers citing stitch tension and webbing surface finish rather than stitch count and thread tensile strength (see moof's post). Well, now you're agreeing with me, and disagreeing with your previous claim, since I have been saying all along that friction is probably unimportant, whereas you had implied (whether you realize or not) that friction is important. Jay Jeesis F'n Cripes...there's no end to your making up quotes, is there? I never said "tightly", let alone the rest of what you put there in quotation marks, so if that's where you INFERRED anything to do with friction, it's all in your head. .
Yes, actually, you did say "tightly":
gunkiemike wrote: OK, so maybe my choice of the word "fuse" made you think of "one piece" of material, but that's silly. Webbing is a mass of thousands of interwoven filaments. Two webbings sewn so tightly together that they won't separate under the greatest stress is now 2n thousand filaments acting together. Do you really have a problem with that being much stronger?
So, yes, I indeed inferred friction from that, because that is precisely what you implied, whether you realize it or not.
In reply to: Fercryinoutloud, I can nail a couple greased boards together with a few hundred nails and you'll never pull them apart lengthwise, but friction ain't got nothing to do with that either.
Right, and why won't they come apart? Because the nails are stronger than the wood (we presume). And the strength of the nails does not depend on how tightly the pieces of wood are nailed together. Hence (except for some torque on the nails), the strength of the joint does not depend in an important way on how "tightly" the boards are nailed together. Rather, as I have been arguing from the start, the strength of the join is limited by the lesser of the strength of the joining material and the material being joined.
Youhave completely contradicted your position at the start of this thread wherin you opined that the tightness of the joint was an important determinant of the strength of the joint, in favor of the position I took from the start of this thread. What is unfortunate is that you are completely oblivious to your turnaround.
Jay
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