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IclimbNAKED


Jun 28, 2008, 2:27 AM

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Re: [spacemonkey07] Clipping into Belay Loop!!
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spacemonkey07 wrote:
My climbing partner ties his figure 8 also in his belay loop.

Reasons?

- less wear on the harness. (leg loops are the first to wear, long before the belay loop does)
- he doesn't want a big chunky knot close to his body, he likes it floating around more
- a lot of people start discussions with him why he does this, you know, the 'one more link to break in the chain of links which have to save your life in case of a dynamic fall

a) Quite wrong. If you were to give your harness a quick going-over, you would notice that your hard-points where the belay loop threads are much more reinforced in comparison with the belay loop itself.

b) Why in the hell would you want your knot to float around? If you were to take a violent fall, your knot may snap up and whack you in the lower abdomen. How appetizing does that sound to suddenly get knot-punched? I personally would want my knot as close to me as possible so that I'm not in any danger of getting owned by it, and I can cup it easily to trace my rope properly so I avoid backclips or z-clips.

c) ...it is another link to break, though. Think redundancy of systems: if the belay loop fails then you will probably be unbelievably and dangerously screwed if you're taking a high fall. Whereas when you're tied in to your hard-points, if one fails for some freak reason, you still have the other one that you can hope will last you until you can downclimb to safety or be lowered down.


(This post was edited by IclimbNAKED on Jun 28, 2008, 3:04 AM)



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