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pico23
Sep 28, 2008, 3:28 AM
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dlintz wrote: roy_hinkley_jr wrote: Do not consider any camera that lacks a dust-removal system--that is an absolute must-have, way more important than pixels. If you're serious about outdoor photography, you're probably better off with either Olympus or Pentax. With Canon or Nikon, you either get a light flimsy toy or a heavy durable brick. Pentax may have nice weather sealing on their cameras but that's a somewhat moot point if their "affordable" lesnes don't have the same quality. Their bodies have some nice features but Canon/Nikon destroy them in focus speed. I know nothing about Olympus DSLRs so I can't comment there. I don't think my 40D is all that heavy....now throw a 24-70L on there and it's a different story. d. Oh shit, I haven't been on here in weeks, maybe months, and I return to bullshit like this. Can you substantiate a single word you spewed? Please for the love of god, make up total lies on a Canon forum, but don't waste everyones time on here. Canon lenses are absolutely fine, but the build quality is just ok. The reason Canon and Nikon are so big in photojournalism is they fought tooth and nail to win that market. There is nothing wrong with what they make, it's good gear, but it's just gear, it's not magic, it doesn't self heal when you drop it, it does break, it takes time to be fixed, it cost money, and it's not gold. If you really want to ENJOY using your camera pick up a Pentax Limited lens or a DA/FA* these are simply some of the best lenses ever made. Oh and before I go any further, let me just mention the FA* 85mm 1.4, you do realize that MANY Canon shooters have taken this lens, and attached it to there Canon rigs because quite simply it is THE BEST 85mm ever built. Pentax has some sort of evil shadow over it simply because it didn't battle Canon and Nikon for the pro market of 35mm. And that perhaps was a mistake but the fact is owning the pro market and making quality cameras have little to do with anything. Look at Leica, they produce the finest lenses, and cameras that last decades, if not lifetimes and don't even make an auto focus lens. I always have to point out that Pentax was the only brand of the 5 major Japanese brands (Pentax, Canon, Nikon, Minolta and Olympus) that had a medium format line, and not only that but it had 2 medium format lines, 645 and 67. I should point out that the Pentax LX was perhaps the finest manual focus 35mm pro camera ever built, simply blew away the Nikon F3 and Canon (was it F1) of the era. The sealing, complete mechanical operation (yes it worked just fine even if the batteries died), the on the film metering, etc. I really ask anyone to even pick up a current national geographic or outdoor photographer magazine, even in the day of 5Ds and Hassy $40,000 medium format digital, the Pentax 645 or 67 system often has a few images credited to it. Am I a Pentax fanboy? Maybe, but I also shoot Nikon, and I've had quite a few different brand digital and film compacts including Canon, Panasonic, Olympus, etc. I like cameras, but I think they are a tool. The reason I like Pentax, aside from the stellar glass, that some idiots don't even realize exist, is the value for money. Because Pentax didn't offer a photojournalism oriented SLR or DSLR since the LX (1980s), it was able to put features in it's moderately priced top of the line cameras that simply were not found on Canon or Nikon cameras. My film PZ-1P matched the Nikon N90 spec for spec, and actually had a few nicer features in some spots, the N90 has a slightly more diverse AF system (more focus points, but having used the N90 and PZ-1P I can say that since I default even today to center point for sports, the PZ-1P was equally fast and more accurate). Anyway, the N90 is one of the best selling 35mm auto focus SLRs of all time, yet the PZ-1P is simply a better camera. Pentax is auto focus accuracy test consistently beats Nikon and Canon. Yes, Canon cameras fire off more shots when Pentax cameras stutter for confirmation but the shots are always sharp!! What good is a unsharp shot? The point of course is that Pentax was able to bundle lots of value into great cameras, the lenses, well, the 31mm FA Limited was rated by PopPhoto as one of the 3 BEST AF LENSES OF ALL TIME!!!!! The 50mm FA 1.4 also just recently ranked tops above both Canon and Nikons offerings in the 50mm field. The Limiteds are solid aluminum barrels with MILLED aluminum focus rings (no cheap rubber). These lenses are simply the finest build you can get without going Zeiss or Leica. The bokeh and rendering qualities of these lenses is something special as well. The Pentax 14mm DA was at the time of it's release both the smallest and fastest digital wide angle lens by any of the big Japanese makers. The Tokina 12-24, is a sister design of the Pentax 12-24 f/4 which beat out the Nikon equivalent in PopPhoto's digital wide angle test. The Tokina is not the same construction or grouping but quite a few Canon and Nikon owners have this collaborative lens on there cameras. The Pentax kit lens also ranked at the top of the camera kit lens test. And Pentax does use metal lens mounts on all it's cameras, Canon does not. Even the base cameras (till this year) were always stainless steel lens mounts on both the low end camera body and the kit lenses. Pentax just released 5 weather sealed zooms/primes, which when the in body stabilization is factored in are a steal. DA* 16-50 2.8 DA* 50-135 2.8 DA* 200mm 2.8 DA* 300mm f/4 DA* 60-250 f/4 Also on the horizon is a weather sealed 30mm 1.4, and a weather sealed 55mm 1.4 was just announced and should be out around Christmas. The 35mm DA 1:1 macro I was just testing is a great lens. Simply amazing. And the older FA 35mm 2.0 makes Canon and Nikons offerings just look silly. The FA35 is sharp wide open, and I mean tack sharp with over 70 lines of resolution at F/2.0 and it reaches just shy of 100 lines at f/5.6-11 where it peaks. So while you should be loyal to whatever gets you the best images, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't spew utter nonsense that you have absolutely no data to back up. So what do we have: We have weather sealed lenses for under $1000. We have some of the finest primes made. We have weather sealed bodies for as little as $600. We have more accurate focusing. We have the highest resolution sensor on the market second to the Canon 1DsMIII (which cost $8000) compared to the $1100 14.5MP Pentax CMOS. We have in body stabilization and non crippled lens mounts that allow us to use ANY LENS made for Pentax cameras including those old, and robustly built M42 screw mounts. All our cameras have spot meters (does anyone not remember when Canon made 20D buyers upgrade to 1DMIIs to get a spot meter?)
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