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Re: [Factor2] WOULD YOU TAKE A SLEEPING BAG ON MT. WASHINGTON WINTER HIKE (DAY HIKE TO SUMMIT)
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I've only done it three times. I seem to remember that it takes a couple of hours. We've always spent the night at Hermit Lake and then gone down then up in the morning. We would get up at 4am in order to be on the trail by 6 and at the Lion's head by 7ish. But we were carrying overnight gear - It' surely faster with a day pack. But I'd still leave a couple of hours before dawn.

Days are short. One time we were failed because we missed our wakeup alarm and were an hour behind. Some large guided group got in front of us and we couldn't pass. They were moving so slowly we couldn't stay warm enough and lost our edge. The earlier you get on the road the more chance you have to avoid the clusterfuck.

Best, Kim

Edited to add: Okay, hereís my list for a day trip up the Lionís head:

40L Pack
3L water in Camelback
Ice ax (you need this only to control the glissade down)
Trekking poles (optional Ė you either donít leave home without them or you do)
Crampons (G12 or equivalent)
Boots (always a problem: do you take doubles or not)
Socks
Heavy weight lowers
Windproof (softshell) pants
Belay pants
Light weight uppers
R1 hoody
Windproof (softshell) jacket with hood
Belay (DAS in my case) jacket
2 pair windproof gloves
Belay gloves
BD Winter Bivi Sack
Goggles
Lightweight nylon cap for climbing to tree line
Insulated balaclava
Windproof balaclava
First aid
GU/CliffShot or equivalent * 1/40min*16 hours
Watch
Cell phone/walkie-talkie
Compass (A GPS takes too much time Ė you donít want to stand around waiting to acquire the sats. You should be able to see the route or you should be heading down.)
Map
Headlamp
E-light

Contrary to my earlier advice, NO Sleeping bag- with the belay jacket and pants and bivi sack youíre in good shape to survive until help comes. This is a WELL traveled route. Youíll see LOTS of people even in bad weather. When you break your leg you need to hold out until help arrives. NO bivi. If you need to bivi you didnít start early enough. Forget the shovel and avi beeper. Lionís head has next to zero avi danger.

In my three times Iíve never broken out the belay gear because Iím moving fast enough to stay warm. If youíre not moving fast enough to stay warm, youíre doing something wrong Ė head down.

Washington is no joke. And itís as good a time as Iíve ever had.

Best, Kim


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