jacques wrote:
marc801 wrote:
I have no idea what you are saying
Read "a national climbing classification proposed" by Leight Ortenberger, in 1963 at
http://www.supertopo.com/...php?topic_id=1039859 Understand what is the two difficulty identify in the text.
and you will understand that when a climber lower the overall difficulty of a route (beta, working a route, bolt, multiple repetition) these guy are sport climber.
a climber who lower the difficulty of the hardiest pitch and who climb route with a high commitment rating (ground up, route finding, on sigh) those guy are more trad.
So, it is not because you place cam that you are a trad climber and some trad used bolt when the consequences of a fall are too hight