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Aug 3, 2015, 11:23 AM

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This place is dead part 2 (exclamation mark not needed)
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So Jeff, you locked the thread titled This place is DEAD! In effect, eliminating one of the few remaining active topics anyone concerned about the site can offer up advice. Not sure why, unless you were feeling insecure. Let it run. Let people have discussion.

As far as achieving the site culture you said that you desired in your first post, I'd say that you have been able to successfully achieve it. The cost is to you and the site, as people were invited to leave via your invitation, and they did. Perhaps you might consider what you really wanted?

Jeff wrote:
Regarding site culture:
There are just a couple of things that are non-negotiable based on who I am as a person and what kind of site I want to be associated with. You can sum most of them up as be friendly, treat people, including women, with respect, don't be a jerk, and treat others how you'd want to be treated. The rockclimbing community tends to be a little rough around the edges, thrill-seeking, rules-pushing, heart-pounding awesomeness. No problems there--I was the kid growing up who drove the town roundabout backwards every so often just to feel like a rebel. But I'm not going to tolerate sexually crude remarks or slamming n00bs. People who want to do those things can go find another site. I haven't seen problems with these things so far, but just wanted to set the ground rules.


JimTitt wrote:
JimTitt wrote:
set up a sin-bin where the bad boys can mouth of to each other and we can watch the fun from the sidelines.

Jeff wrote:
Lol. Not really cool with that--I'd like to hit reset on that part of this site's culture.

Overall, the crew here is pretty friendly (and many of you have known each other for years), but occasionally threads disintegrate into drama, and when that happens I'll delete those posts and hand out warnings/time outs. It's going to take a little bit for us to all re-calibrate so I will do my best to over-communicate and give any offenders a reasonable chance to change before perma-banning them. That said, if it becomes clear someone needs to be banned, I won't hesitate to do that.

Disagreement is totally fine (and healthy), being rude and prickly, or personal attacks or crude remarks can go elsewhere. I'm still building my "strike zone" on where the line is, so we'll just see how it goes.

I'm not sure why you would ignore and rebuff a person of Jimtitts stature and intelligence. I find crap like that offensive. You are going to give ME a timeout? I'm 60 years old, have been rockclimbing for 43 years. I own my own business and don't need you to be my mother. You can choose to turn this site around right now. Encourage people to get in there and pitch their BS and spit and argue with each other. Let it roll baby. If someone gets personal and offers up something too far over the line, just quietly delete their comment. Don't F***ing lecture or talk down to them for speaking what they perceive is the truth- nobody here is a child. Except for maybe Sungum, but he's Scottish and growing out of it, plus he's hilariously funny. Heheh.

PS, please don't consider this a snarky post. The conflict/activity and bandying that defined disappeared, and with it -your customers and the things that made it interesting. This is why, not any other reason. Not back end, not front end, not less climbers, not facebook. I've been here a long time, I'm offering this in a respectful manner -let people have active discourse. Give it a thought.

(This post was edited by billcoe_ on Aug 3, 2015, 11:30 AM)

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