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Just curious about something...literally 90 percent of guy climbers I've met in California that I've either climbed with or sat around the campfire with either works in engineering or computers. Not kidding, every single one with the exception of 2 partners of mine, one a doctor and the other a wild businessguy.
What's up with that? Is it the problem solving? The technical gear? The peace and quiet of the crags? Just wondering. Cause the women I meet climbing seem to have kinda diverse jobs (teaching, lawyers, nurses, and me I work in local TV news of all silly things) but I have to laugh every time I meet a guy out at the crags and no matter what he looks like or what I'd hypothesize he does, it is always either engineering or computers...ALWAYS! Or just climbing bums who do seasonal work and go from crag to crag (damn I envy them).
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No, some of us are biostatisticians.
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We have not met....I am a Boat Captain BUT my Wife is an Engineer!
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chalk up a physicist too.
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coldclimb
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I'm in computers...
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God I hope not. I'm in mining exploration my climber wife is an art dealer.
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Geeks and firefighters... whazzupwiththat?
(I am a geek.)
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Jan 24, 2003, 1:24 AM
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I'm a woman and a climber and I more or less work in computers/engineering.
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Pastry chef.
Seriously.
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Jan 24, 2003, 1:42 AM
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Not an engineer, but do drafting in an Engineering Department. We can analyze holds better.
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I've heard this debate before. People usually chalk it up to the fact that a lot of climbing involves objective problem solving (hell, what are bouldering routes called?). John Gill is also a retired math prof.
Those of us that climb and that are academics in the humanities are definitely a minority. the proud, the few...
can anyone give me a good explanation for why a historian/historiographer would climb?
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Im a woman but I major in Botany with a minor in evolution ecology biology and a minor in biotechnology. However for the record i do climb with 2 male engineers
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Paul,
Rocks are millions of years old. There's got to be a lot of history in there somewhere!!!
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studying civil & structual engineering.
not an engineer yet i guess... but soon, well, mabe? depends if i manage to put more of an effort into studying then into climbing.
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neadamthal
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mark another one up on the computers side
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Fireman, might help you figure out my screen name!
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gotta find a new sport.
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I'm a lawyer, but I litigate technology patents, so I am not sure where that puts me.
A geeky shark, probably.
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Full blown computer geekazoid right here.
errr I guess that doesn't help the image eh?
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I am not an engineer because I am not working.
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I'm a journalism major!!
but i used to be information science until i had to take accounting...
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Just a Clinical Laboratory Scientist here - you know, the guy who runs those silly little laboratory tests your Dr. orders. Ah, the things we know about you , but will NEVER tell. AND, tapering to my retirement where I can climb and spend time in the garden and kitchen - but I will probalby still keep playing on the puter. So Beth, if/when we ever meet, tell me if I look like a puter or engineer person
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I am a climber and next year I will be at Boulder to "study mechanical engineering" (read my mechanical movements on rocks) but seriously i am goign to be an engineer in 4 years
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Oh tradclimber, I could never guess. I swear, I've met these totally wild guys who I'd peg as something like bartenders or artists or something like that yet every time they turn out to be engineers or computer guys. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that so don't get me wrong. It's just become a running joke with me and my partners, when I'm out at the crags and talking to some guy and the topic of what they do comes up and I say "wait, let me guess....is it computers or engineering?" and literally EVERY time it is one or the other. Always makes me chuckle.
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Education: Philosophy & Ancient History (BA), History of Thought (from Harvard Divinity School)
Job: Administrator in Healthcare (I crunch numbers and people).
Reason why a historian would climb? It's cool.
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I write financial fiction for a living.
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I'm an analyst at an actuarial consulting firm. You could call me a finance engineer I guess.
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chemist/laboratory supervisor
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Jan 24, 2003, 2:36 AM
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Im at UMR doing Civil Engineering.
kinda weird
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Another lawyer. The seamy stuff. Meth labs are big these days.
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yeah!! technology is where its at!!
haha yep i'm studying information systems and technology!! (computers)
wow, thats a mouthful!!
ROCK ON!!!
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Jan 24, 2003, 3:02 AM
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education: math/physics
occupation: web programmer, i'm also about to drop down to part-time to build my house after that i'll become a part-time climbing bum.
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I am also an Engineer as well as my girlfriend. Pretty much all of our climbing partners are Engineers or Designers.
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AEROSPACE ENGINEERING
My enjoyment in solving boulder problems is directly related to how i like to solve physics problems. I suppose climbers would have to be the "nerds" of the sporting world.
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High School English Teacher here.
*IN* a computer? Ouch. That's got to hurt- can't be a lot of room in there... unless it's one of those great big Crays or something....
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Mechanical Engineering Technologist.
Going back to school this summer to become a real Mech. Eng.
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There is no doubt that climbing, especially serious trad routes and walls, attract people with higher IQs. You can figure that about half the people in Camp 4 at any time have college degrees, or at least are working towards them.
The reason may be that the Others don't stick around long enough to be noticed. They either get out of the game or the game gets out of them. Unlike weight-lifting, climbing is not a brute-force type of activity. Technique rules over strength, and the best climbers are the people with the best minds.
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Jan 24, 2003, 3:38 AM
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Computer nerd
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Jan 24, 2003, 3:52 AM
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heck no! I'm a starving college student who studies cadavers and has to bum rides to the rocks!
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Well Im in Mechanical Engineering, and proud of it hahahah
I think it is because of the problem solving, Seriously, when i am back at school doing massive hw, and projects, i notice my climbing skills go through the roof!
it has to be the problem solving.
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I'm studying petroleum engineering right now. I like to climb cause its a break from the work. Oh wait, according to the check out lady at walmart today "Oh you're studying to be an engineer? They don't work, they just sit on there a$$es". I just wanted to be like "And you seemed to have done so much with your life. You're like 50 and still a check out person at walmart?"
People always ask me what petroleum engineers do. My answer: "We're the guys that work at the full service gas stations that pump your gas and clean your windsheild. We're a dying breed."
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I'm not a computer guy but I play one on tv
(kidding I'm an UBER computer geek)
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I use to be a snowmaker.
But I'm in computers now.
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I be a Chemical Engineer, actually since I work in Pulp and Paper, you can call me a process engineer.
I just graduated from school. As I was leaving, our climbing/outing club was dying. The reason you ask?
90% of the members were engineers and they were all leaving for co-op/internships or graduation! Of course the club will come back as soon as they get back from their internships.
Seriously, I think the science and engineering professionals need a sport that includes both mental and physical aspects. They already have a strong urge for mental outlets based on their personality, and everyone needs a physical outlet. Climbing is a great way to do both!
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<--- A wanna be IT guru.
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Retired mathematician, here. But I also enjoy doing creative math graphics programming in VB!
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I am a aircraft mechanic...which in europe is a ..... engineer ...
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I too, am I on my way to becoming a civil/structural engineer.
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im in computers and the situation...
I sit in front of a computer at least 40 hours a week with little movement or human interaction. Its literally torture and by the end of the week I just want to run to the crag. Man I cant believe I went to school for this...boring zzz zzz zz
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What?! Are you mad?! I'm a biology major with an English minor and I'm proud of it.
Cell Biology and Whitman rock!!!!!
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I'm still in college for another year, but I will be a Geographer and Recreation Technician
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Hey, it's just kinda opposite here...most of my climbing pals(95%) are not engineers/compu expert...but just do all kind of works...one person is even a bus driver
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Heh, you have me pegged. I wanna be a Nuclear Engineer, that, or a park ranger or guide.
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Holy crap. I figured it was a Socal thing with all climbers being engineers or in the computer industry. I had no idea it was this vast. Man, do I feel like the black sheep.
Why do you guys think it is that this sport doesn't attract people from other fields and professions? Especially non-technical? Hell, I went into journalism cause I dreaded math so much (well, math kinda hates me). I work in a tv newsroom assigning stories to reporters and photographers for our newscasts. I am yet to meet a single person in my entire industry that climbs...they all think I am insane when I show them pics of what I do. But I am more addicted to climbing than anything else I've ever encountered. I must be the anomaly.
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Maybe it's because those other types don't frequent rock climbing message boards, or computers at all, and cant respond to the question. I'm sure all those people I see in dreds and 3 foot knit caps at Josh arn't all math geeks.
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I remember seeing a thread about this before, but how many of us are Geologists?
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Alexe Lowe was a gifted mathmatician and tried working in that field for a while.
There is a disproportionate number of proffessional climbers that excel in math and physics.
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Hmm, I think I'm the first so far here studying to be a police officer.
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Computer Network Engineer...
DAMN!!
I was trying to prove you wrong!!
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In response to the original post, the answer is yes.
Well, at least an overwhelming amount of climbers are engineers, architects, or IT, in my experience.
Kinda funny moabbeth, I posed the exact same theory here almost exactly a year ago. Check it out....9 pages of the same subject! There must be something to it.
~Erica
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My day job is a blacksmith, making awsome things like Ornate Gates, Railings, all custom and made by hand. My future job, hopefully will to become a teacher someday.
but untill then Ill keep pounding Iron!
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I guess I'm guilty too. I started out in Civil Engineering and now am in Construction Management. It's all problem solving, which is what climbing's all about. If the object were to get to the top, we'd just walk around or build a ladder.
Partners I've had are either Engineers or in Construction.
Advertisers should look into Engineering Publications.
I've found that people who aren't interested in figuring out HOW to get to the top, end up losing interest pretty quickly once you put them on something hard enought that they actually have to use their brain and not just strength.
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Any Civil Engineers out there willing to hook me up with an internship this summer? PM me if it is possible.
P.S. I'm willing to be your belay slave too.
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And once again, Ford breaks the mold. I don't work in IT, and am not an engineer. I don't even have a college degree. (yet) I am a freight handler by trade. That means I drive a forklift. From this, you can learn that not all blue-collar guys are lazy or stupid.
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Biology with an English minor counts as High IQ. And so does someone driving a forklift, but looking to go to college. And for that matter, what you do for $$$ has nothing to do with how smart you are. Climbers are smart. Period. I'll put any good trad/wall climber up against a professional football player in a battle of the minds, and guess what? My man will win (no quarterbacks, OK?).
For what it's worth, Warren Harding once told me personally (this is not BS) that Chuck Pratt was sharp enough he should have been a nuclear engineer. Instead, he fixed air-cooled Volkswagens to make money and keep climbing. Warren wouldn't tell me what he was supposed to have become, if the Rock hadn't grabbed him. He was like that, though. Cheerful, outgoing, extroverted, but secretive.
A good route (especially dicey trad or wall) is a Chinese puzzle that most people can't figure out. Those that do are HIGH IQ.
It's part of the game, and that's why we play it.
New York City is known as a magnet for intellectual vagabonds, but I would say that on a per-capita basis, Camp 4 RULES! There are more smart, funny, great, engaging, fun, able, cool and wonderful people in Camp 4 than any other place in the world.
Get over it. Climbers rule.
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Hmm?
Have you ever considered the reason most climbers you meet are computer related is because you meet them on a website?
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yeah i am doing a computer course at the minute and my dad is doing them as well and we both like to climb.
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Where in California do you climb? Is it somewhere with a particularly high concentration of techie types? That's the most obvious question that occurs to me.
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I'm an actor with a crappy day job in retail (it's either that or wait tables when you need to be able to drop anything and everything to get to an audition).
I'm applying to grad school to get a Master's in Education (we'll see if they let me in).
However, I worked in computers for 6 years, doing everything from call centre supervision to sysoping to quality assurance.
So ... yes and no.
k.
Oh ... wait. You wanted to know about the GUYS. My husband's in computers -- does that count?
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gansccr, you are off the scale. This post is for people who can't get a real job, like yours.
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ROOFING MECHANIC and DAMN PROUD OF IT !!!!!!17 years of unbearable conditions, keeping all you fancy pant white collar folks dry !!!
I am a class WARRIOR , I'm dirty, sometimes smelly, gruf rough and damn tough BLUE COLLAR WORKERS RULE !!!!!!
even though I don't look the part..
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Guilty!!... I'm a computer science engineer...
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GEOLOGIST!!!
and all my climbing partners have been geologists too, but that is because we tend to move in packs Also, there is a natural prgression from studying rocks to climbing on them! Not being afraid to repel off a cliff to see and measure some rocks is a useful skill for me actually.
On this white collar/blue collar thing, I worked in contruction for a year and a half as an asbestos abatement inspector. I was able to deal with a lot of "blue collar" people (this was after I got my BS.) I met a lot of people working as laborers who were very smart people, but had different priorities in life than others. Then again, I met some people who were dumb as dirt, but I don't think they'd make it too far in the climbing world. I certainly wouldn't want one of them belaying me!!
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You have a point, the same things that make you a good engineer would also get you interested in climbing: figuring out problems "hands-on", the combination of technical knowledge combined with real-world situations, the technical aspects of the gear and ropes.
Folks who are into computers and engineering also tend to be more introverted and centered on the 'self' rather than 'others'. This appears to be a common trait in climbers.
I should know I'm an engineer!
In fact, I should be engineering right now, but I'm goofing off!!!!
But I also have climbed with a lawyer, airforce colonel, actuary, marketing manager, architect, school teacher, art student, astrophysicist, etc . . .
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I' m an Elementary Phys Ed teacher. My goal is to one day run an outdoor program for adolescents, though. Rock Climbing , hiking, camping, etc. Kids are great, they know how to have fun.
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Wow! Gansscr has a BODYCOUNT!
I will NOT mess with that dude at the crags!!!
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unfortunately in computers right now, but looking to go back to school for geology soon. i'm jealous of that guy in mining exploration - that is what i want to do.
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I'm a computer programmer and I climb with a female robotics expert and a guy that works in a video store. Rock climbing does involve a high level of problem solving. As for all male rock climbers being engineers/Comp Prgms, I think that there are just a whole lot of people who work with computers these days.
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Come to think of it...I do climb with a few engineers. On the other hand I work for an architectural/engineering firm (I do marketing/business development) and those guys think I'm crazy for climbing. Go figure.
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engineer here.....
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nope, insurance consultant/office manager, my climbing wife is a physical therapist, so again nope. Cheers
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passthepitonspete
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Uh-oh.
Er, uh, degree in chemical engineering and business management, professional engineer, and I spend way too much time in front of this computer.
I have worked in sales for seventeen years, and I can tell you that the #1 most difficult type of person to deal with is the schoolteacher. While there are always exceptions, many of them have never lived in the "real world", and you just can't teach a teacher. I prefer root canal work to dealing with a schoolteacher.
But the #2 most difficult type of person to deal with is an engineer. Some engineers are so damn anal it'll drive you crazy! They'll overanalyze the crap out of everything and still never make a decision.
[I had too much personality to succeed as an engineer, so now I sell financial products. How I ever passed engineering is a minor miracle - I belive they graduated me just to get rid of me.]
While in university, I could never understand why I had so few friends in engineering! Not surprisingly, those friends I did have in engineering, like me, have later chosen to follow careers other than engineering per se.
But I think the geekdom of engineering and computers selectively brings these people to websites. If the stats are skewed this way here on line, they are perhaps less skewed on the crags.
If you are to be a big wall climber, then you must also be a problem solver, which is precisely what an engineer is.
I am Dr. Piton,
and I am not a dweeby engineering geek. [If you do not believe me, I would be happy to provide you with an annotated 78-point-list complete with footnotes explaining precisely why this is so]
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Hey Beth, I didn't read this entire thread, but if you're taking a poll, I'm a woman climber and an electrical engineer. I would rather be a bum, but my kids wouldn't appreciate it much..
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i'm a pilot.
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College prof, not an engineer or computer programmer. Then again, I do write programs and draw an awful lot of graphs.
In my case, I was a climber long before I had any clue about career. So I suspect that part of this pattern is not technical folks getting into climbing, but rather folks with certain outlooks who find both climbing and technical work appealing (at any life stage).
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I am Computer Systems Security Specialist.
Hm!?
Sounds bad!
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Yep. IT guy here.
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climblouisiana
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Electrical Engineer.
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Lawyer - but hoping to join the real world at some point in the future (once all of those law school loans are paid off) . . . the group I regularly climb with kind of highlights the diversity that is found int he climbing community on the eastcaost . . . 1 teacher, 1 psychologist, 1 chemical engineer, 1 executive recruiter. Seems that the more I climb the more diverse I realize the community really is . . .
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I sell lift tickets for a living but still don't get to ski or climb as much as I'd like.
Do engineers or computer geeks work 9-5, M-F? If not, I should look into that.
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computer geek here too....and i don't work m-f 9-5, i make my own hours (still have to work 40 hours a week though, still trying to find a way around that)
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chemical engineer / finance type person. soon to be unemployed....
oh yeah - and i'm a female (if that matters)
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1 more geek...
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currently a salesman nut aspiring toward dirt bag
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Another point to consider- could a disproportionate number of rc.com users be IT/engineer types? IT people IMO are more likely to spend vast times on net activities...
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Of course if you're living in an area and going to crags close to Silicon Valley, then my guess is that you would run into tech types more than anywhere else. And here in Vegas you would have higher chance of climbing next to casino dealers, like some of my climbing buddies. All the more reason to travel to a different place to climb and meet different people!
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Construction worker/ General Contractor in previous life.
Changed to Computer Consultant, then started climbing!
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Civil Engineer
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Show business, sort of....
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I highly doubt most are into engineering or computers. However, most everyone has access to computers, and works on one everyday, hence the irony. I am a loan officer with a bank.
Bye for now.
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Pastry chef, but my partner was an engineer, now he trims trees for a living.... he loves to climb palm trees :roll
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I are engineer and an architect. Or atleast that what I went to college for.
Construction Management is the job.
There certainly are a lot of techie people. Part of that I believe is simply because there are so many techie people in the general population. Engineers and IT is a HUGE group.
Jamison
edited for spelling. Techy or techie??
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Neither....I'm a musician.
...although I have been known to dabble in computers....
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Chualk up one EMT, I think it is becasue it is bit of an adreaniline rush!! Go fig?
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Computer geek here, but my climbing buddies are a cop, a theater geek, clergy, a biologist, a writer, a gym teacher, a physician's assistant, a forester, military personel, and a geologist.
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I work in a bank....and I have a puter fixing business that we run out of our home
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Computer geek, but getting ready to start EMT/paramedic training.
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Chemical Engineer working in Aerospace.
As to why so many engineers, I don't know but everyone I climb with is an engineer, practically.
Problem solving is good, plus a chance to get away from the job and see the wilderness etcetc. Of course that should work for any discipline. hmmm
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I am majoring in Geology. It was between this and Architectural/Structural Engineering. My girlfriend, who climbs, is a petroleum engineer. I have also always enjoyed computers.
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Software Engineer. But, wish I was something else!!
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Securities Fraud Investigator, degrees in Econ and in PolSci. However I started in ChemEng.
I climb with dudes, doctors, architects, engineers, biologists and car mechanics. They are all smart enough to solve problems, at least the bouldering kind.
I used to fence and found it to be more academcially elite than any other sport. It was equally balanced between humanities and sciences but everyone was exceptionally smart. The percentage of uber-smart people well exceeded what I have seen the the climbing univserse.
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One term left for my B.S. in Geology. Why you may ask?
Because Geologists...
-do it on the rocks, are always on the lookout for "cleavage", will date anything, have "normal faults", are gneiss, tuff and a little "wacke".
Added plus: you are allowed to answer "uplifts, thrusts, and overturned beds are common signs of an orogeny" on an exam and not lose points.
Hey, if you don't love Geology ...
Upper Jurassic!!
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Well, although I'm a woman, I work as a ranger...but my climbing buddies are normal joes...Costco, Wal-mart, and outdoor shops.. and of course other rangers...
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Aircraft Mechanic says: "The engineers screwed us again!!":evil: As I try to install hi-lok fasteners using double back tape on the end of my left index finger arm jammed through a lightening hole in a rib and one through a spar on an MD-11 elevator!!
I need to take a break and Make some more stoppers and pitons. Heh! Heh!
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i am a mechanical engineer...
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I know a few combat engineers that are into climbing, does that count at all?
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One of the most interesting threads I've seen in a while.
Ex-software engineer, now in business school. Wishing I hadn't left.
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Engineer (ing student). If you want to know if your an engineer or how to deal with one, PM me and I'll email you a test.
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im a student, so no
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I work in Midget Porn
Ooops I mean "Little-person Adult Films" gotta be PC!
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Well, i guess im out. Im a pro turd burglar...hahah just kidding. Im a college sophomore working toward an Environmental Science major and GIS minor.
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Management consultant . . . in the IT services industry.
I used to be a ones and zeros geek a long time ago, but now about the most technical thing I ever do is turn on the PC (note I didn't even say "boot").
I think money has something to do with it. Climbing is expensive, especially if you travel to do it. Most people who climb have decent paying jobs. A lot of those decent paying jobs can be found in technical fields.
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Wow, I guess that I am in the minority here...I am a med student, and my wife who is also a climber is a doctor, as are most of my climbing partners...go figure.
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Electrical engineer doing computer engineering work: component design for core processors for upcomming PDA's and cellphones
There are whole bunch of graduate math geeks that climb at University of Texas at Austin, plus a few engineers, physics, and computer science climbers
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Academic: literature and humanities. (Go, Camhead. Nail the diss. Humanists don't rule. But they should.)
But *all* my partners are geeks. Hence, they all have way more money than I do. But, then, none of them have kids. Double whammy, yikes...
Btw, PTPP, I'm a "schoolteacher," and I'm a very fun guy. Everyone tells me so. And I take instruction very well. So bite me.
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I have been following this thread as it grows and I have become very curious about something.
It seem apparent (to me anyway) that the title of Engineer is used very loosely in the USA (Im making reference to posted titles like Computer Network Engineer
). In Canada the title of Engineer is legally reserved for Licensed Professional Engineers only. Is there no similar reservation in the USA? Not doing so, in my and many other opinions, belittles this profession.
For your reading:
http://www.peo.on.ca/enforcement/enforc1.html
Curious,
~jc
P.S. I dont want to hijack this thread. But please if you have an opinion or information, just add it to the end of your post. Cheers.
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Well, lets face engineers know everything about everything, so why not climbing.
ps. Heard a story of a lady applying for a seceratary job at an engineering firm. She had the stones to list herself as a domestic engineer. The guys doing the application selection, one with 2 bachelors degrees and a masters and one with a phd promptly threw it in the trash.
Garbage collectors are not waste management engineers, they're garbage men.
maintenance men (the guys who change light builbs) are not building engineers they're maintenance men.
I Haven't been going to school for years to earn the title engineer only to share it with a garbage picker!!
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phugganut
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In my experience, there is definately a proliferation of engineers/computer gurus in the climbing community. For the record, I'm a group therapist. However, many of the people that I have climbed and/or canyoneered with are engineers, and there have been several times where I'm the only non-engineer in my group. It's not a problem, and they are nice people and good partners, it's just something I've noticed.
Also, to robscate: Your snobbery is showing. I'm sure that there are many garbage men who wouldn't want to be lumped together with your snooty a$$. I had a friend who drove a garbage truck for a living. He is a good man and good father, too. He makes more money than I do, and I had to go to college (major $$$) to make less $ than him. He also makes more than an engineer friend of mine. He sure is looking smarter than me right now...
Personally, I could care less what my partner does for a living, or what their job title is, just as long as they keep their focus while belaying me!!!
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Jan 28, 2003, 1:16 AM
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Software Engineer. I qualify as being "in computers."
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Jan 28, 2003, 2:24 AM
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I used to think this was true until my recent trip to el potrero, mexico.
for once in my life, 90% of climbers i met were guides, and people with outdoor or climbing related jobs!
in fact i only met one other "techie" and he turned out to be a botanist. oh well.
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I'm an Engineer too. . You're theory seems to be 90% accurate
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robscate:
Nice post, showing that engineers flair for social interaction.
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psychologist
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Jan 28, 2003, 8:43 AM
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mMchanical engineer, studing for an MSc
Actually i started climbing 4 years ago after attending the university's annual climbing school :-)
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I'm a Network Admin and my brother is an Engineer =)and both climb
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I de-vein shrimp for a sea food distributer.
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Well I'm a Outdoor Rec major. So I might be one of those seasonal bums you envy. However, My first year in school was spent as a compeuter engineer major and the next as a computer science major.
Come to think of it the best climber at my school is about to graduate with a computer science degree.
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Biochemist/Lab Supervisor/Compliance and Technical Reviewer
I'm the guy that causes people in the lab to start acting busy when I walk in the door
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mustclimb69
Jan 28, 2003, 2:41 PM
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I am a climber who works in a climbing shop!!!
Do what you love..and love what you do!!
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uncle_big_green
Jan 28, 2003, 3:38 PM
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Bigdrop,
on the academic level in the US, you can say that you are an engineer if you have a degree from an ABET approved program. In certain disciplines like chemical engineering, you'll almost never need to become a licensed Professional Engineer (PE). If you want to go far as a Civil Engineer, then getting a PE is mandatory.
To become a PE, you must first pass the Fundamentals of Engineering Exam (formerly the Engineer in Training Exam). This will get you licensed as an EIT. Most people take the FE during their last year of school while all that stuff isn't as fuzzy as it is now. After working under a PE for 4 yrs. (with an ABET approved degree), you are eligible to take the PE. I think that graduate work may be used towards the 4 yrs. However, if you do not have an ABET degree, you can still take the FE and the PE. You have to wait longer - 7 yrs. I think (not sure). Also, passing the PE allows you to get a license in the state(s) where you wish to practice. There are also continuing education requirement to maintain the PE license (seminars and such). Now you know.
I have a BSME from Georgia Tech and passed the FE. Depending on where I go career wise, I may or may not take the PE.
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Jan 28, 2003, 3:45 PM
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Hmmm, funny...I'm a youth minister, but my boyfriend (and climbing partner) is a graphic designer (i.e. computer geek).
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I think I have the connection here its like fight club or the pussification of america. When you sit behind a desk all day and have no excercise or visual sense of acomplishment as you would if you say built things with your hands (wich is very gratifying by the way in mush the same way as climbing i framed houses to pay my way through engineering school). climbing helps to fill the void this type of a sense of accomplishment
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Jan 29, 2003, 3:51 AM
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Full-time computer geek... part-time scientist (also a geek occupation).
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i dont live in a computer??
j/k .. i'm the designated project mangler for interactive (web) projects at a marketing company and am currently looking for similar positions in the denver area.
hook me up, and i'll be your belay slave for the day !
amber
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Im studing to be a physical therapist (Exercise movement science major). But I switched from CS and Im a chem minor... so I guess that puts me in with the nerdy.
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i'm a graphic/web designer.
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eclarke98
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Well I don't work with computers anymore, but I was a web designer while in college. However, two of the guys I climb with work in the computer industy, which I never really thought about until now.
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I'm on my way to being a Nerd, I mean a Chemical Engineer.
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This is an interesting thread...guess what, I'm a structural engineer. I thought I was a minority, but I guess not. I started climbing with an Air Force buddy but never really asked others that I've climbed with at the gym or those I meet up with at the crags, what they do. Maybe I should..
I also noticed a response about the registration exams to become a PE. I'm in the process now of getting my Civil PE. I took the exam for the first time in October and passed the Seismic, NCEES 8hr and the take-home Legal exam...BUT, I just missed the surveying portion...DAMNIT!!! I passed the EIT the first time around...it woulda been nice to get my PE on the first try (raise for getting my PE = more climbing gear!!)... if any of you are taking the exam in April, I'll see you at the Pomona Fairplex... At least for the Surveying portion of the exam...luckily, I don't have to suffer through the other 12hours of the exam ever again!!!
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Jan 29, 2003, 5:42 AM
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I a recreation Student my other main academic intrest is physical geography.
I have not intrest in math or problem solving in normal every day life. For some reason I like the problem solving aspect of climbing. Placing pro, running the rope and climbing its self is one giant puzzle. I find it mentaly and physicly challenging. Maybe the only reason it sticks in my short attention span is that its a life or death game.
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cruzinsouthoc
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Bigdrop,
just read your post. The "title" of engineer is used pretty lightly in the US I guess..however, you can't advertise or offer engineering services to the public legally without a license and you can't open an engineering business without a license either. You can do engineering design work and call yourself whatever you want, but a registered engineer must be in "responsible charge" of the final product.
I know there have been debates that you can't have the title engineer without a PE and also debates that you can't take the PE exam without an MS degree. Don't think those are going anywhere though.
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maculated
Jan 29, 2003, 5:56 AM
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Well, all the old schools guys were engineering majors from Berkeley, all of my climbing partners in college were . . . engineers.
But, MUWAHAHAHAH! I was an English major!
While all you little math whizzes are figuring out fall factors, I'm appreciating the world around me and what it means to be climbing.
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Jan 29, 2003, 6:17 AM
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Quote:
No, some of us are biostatisticians.
-Jay
GEEK!!!!!
I win! I am not a computer/techie/engineer nerdperson. I don't do a damn thing! But if I did, it's possible it would involve my sociology degree... but said degree has been in the making for 5 years, so I don't have much respect for it
In theory, I am also an English minor. I used to be a cub reporter, and was pretty good at it, but we all know writers practically live on canned cat food and kool-aid.
Nonetheless, score one for the social sciences and humanities.
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ahhh law but I guess that wasn't surprising
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Engineering student here, althou my partner studies human sciences.
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i sell organic an biological fertilizers !!!!
i studied chemistry
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inorganic chemist
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Jan 29, 2003, 4:44 PM
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I'm a writer. Before that I was in management running the warehouse for a plumbing wholesaler. Before that I was a mechanic.
Let's see... (in no particular order)
-Owned my own company (Custom Window treatments and Interior Design with my stepfather)
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-Management
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climberpunk
Jan 29, 2003, 5:15 PM
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well, im only 15, but definately a hardcore geek-boy~!!! heh heh....oh and i wont even touch peecees..macs all the way!
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Will have the pinky ring soon, but it's still another semester and a half till I graduate.
Why arn't there that many climbers that are engineers?? Because there's not that many female engineers, electrical and mechanical especially (about 10% in the year I'm in), others a little more.
Do not misuse the work "Engineer" here in Canada, very strict. I could haul out some info from my Engineering Ethics and Law class, but I'm lazy.
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Law degree, but a writer/director/producer of movies and television now. Most of my climbing partners are construction and/or lawyers or in entertainment. Haven't met too many engineers. Most of them are working on aid projects
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I want to be an helicopter pilot, but studied Computer Sciences and I'm working with computers all day long.
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With a degree in theater design, I swiftly moved into the glamorous job of--
-Bartender.
Although, only time will tell whether sycamore becomes either:
-the next Joseph Stella
-the white Timbaland
-. . . an architect. But a _cool_ architect! really!
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Not all of us. I am relatively new to climbing, and in biotech research.
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Just got my Master's in Electrical Engineering specializing in Pulsed Power Technology.
I suppose I am a geek. Sweet...
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...biomedical enginerd here...well four more months until its official...
...and why does no one want to hire us enginerds?...are there too many of us...
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As having the odd combination of a Philosophy major, an English minor that is close to a major, and Geology classes that are close to a minor, I can say that there are almost as many Philosophy major climbers as Geology, per capita. Analytical skills are entirely relevent in the study of literature and philosophy, just as they are relevent in the sciences, so I do not like the implication that the sciences are somehow more academically demanding or analytical than the humanities.
Just my two cents =)
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lot of students.. is that a career. i wish it were. nothing better than the life of a student
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AF, it can be . . . I'm taking a break, but hopefully one day I'll be a college professor . . . pretty damn close to permanent student.
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I thought engineers drove trains.
I guess I am a retired geologist and full time dirt bag and part time slumlord.
I would say I've noticed a lot of outdoor industry people ataying at climbing destinations for a while (j-tree, bishop, el potrero, Smith Rx, Yosemite). lots of math and geologists seem to be in climbing too. lots of computer people on internet sites...
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kevlar
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I am a brain surgeon....
welll only did one surgery so far..was self
but hey if any one else is game i have all my tools from doing remodeling....an they are still clean...sorta...
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Forensic anthropologist here. I'll be the one checking out yer bones when they get found at the bottom of some isolated crag cause you fell off the wall while trying to figure out mathematically/schematically how you can possibley reach that next hold....
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I'm an ex-computer geek who's now studying to be a firefighter. I originally got into climbing to stay in shape for windsurfing, but nowadays I climb way more than I windsurf.
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I am work for a tv station...but my boyfriend works in computers! It is funny that you say that because now that I think back most of the people that I have met are either in computers or engineering.
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Former IT geek now a librarian.
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Us programmers have to have some outlet to the outside world. Programmer by day. Gym climber by night, and trad climber by weekend. Not a bad week in my opinion.
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Wishiwaswest,,a bit harsh dont you think Well Im a LP tech., you probably dont know what that is but thats what I am. One hint,, cliff bars produce large amounts of this
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I didn't read EVERY single post, but I didn't see anyone say they were in the military. I'm in the Navy myself, but I work with electronics and computers (mainframes mind you, not PCs). One reason I particularly like to climb is cuz the rocks I'm on are usually miles away from the damn ocean. (but I surf, go figure)
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Mojo,
Quit blowing gas out your @##!!!! Glad you are working with LP, I would probably blow myself up!
As for engineers, I am a gEEk but have gone to retail. Go figure!
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professional student.
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BA in Philosophy. Currently in Med school. I have a friend who is an engineer though, does that count?
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i drive a forklift. it isn't the geatest job but it pays the bills
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if anyone is brave enough to venture this far into the post, then here ya go:
I am taking (at college) electrical engineering. (robotics)
my gf is not in computers or engineering. neither is a couple more people i climb with , they are in helth stuff. lol
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computers are horrible and suck life out of you....engineering is pretty cool..im a geography student and GIS is as close as i get to a computer. Geography and the way things work around us naturally is just cool...party on
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I'm a Medical Radiation Physicist.
I hate computers with a passion. They $#!& me.
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My main partners consist of a painter, an aspiring cinematographer, a lighting tech, a helicopter pilot and an actor. Sounds like Beth is hanging with the wrong crowd!
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Some of us make maps on a computer
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Guilty as charged... webmaster
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Biotechnology student.
Is it possible that this has something to do with disposable income?
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Pete Cleveland has a PhD in Chemistry and an MD. He's a retired physician. Dave Slinger, a historical figure at Devils Lake, WI in the 1950s and 1960s started climbing when he was in his early 50s, I think (correct me, anyone) and he was an ONION FARMER.
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Oh man betaflash, where did you find all those industry/creative types that climb?? I'm yet to run across any! But my engineer/computer climbing boys have taken very good care of me so I can't complain.
But literally, with the exception of 2 people, all of my Socal climbing buds really are computer guys or engineers. I do know a female lawyer climber though!
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Industrial construction (high steel walker), concert lighting and sound rigging, heavy equipment operator, theatrical technician, armorer, short order cook, painter, carpenter, electrician.... and website host/editor (two of 'em).
(but does that make me "into" computers? or just taking advantage of a flexible medium without much of a clue how it really works?)
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This climber certainly doesn't work with computers. Fist fights routinely erupt whilst typing and I often wake up and find myself laying on the floor, my computer standing over me, shouting, "Want some more?!? I usually run and hide in a closet for 4 or 5 hours.
My computer scares me.
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Yup, I'm a girl, and a software developer (1337 H4X0R!), and a climber. We have a good size group of techie guys who go to the gym and the crags on a regular basis, and every time we introduce a geek to the sport, they fall in love with it. I, personally, think its because the sport requires so much more brains than brawn. You can put a buff-bonehead football player (who used to beat you up in highschool) on a wall and he problably won't be able to get off the ground. Or he'll get half way up and freak out because he doesn't trust the rope or harness or whatever.
FINALLY - a sport Geeks are naturally better at than Jocks!!
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mtngypsy
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I can't get my computer to do the same thing twice.
I thought engineers drove trains, but now I'm sure computers do.
I've been a bum from time to time, but rarely a climbing bum.
Lately I have been working in a medical profession and it seems every doctor I meet wants to tell the world about their climbing ability.
This is a sport of affluent white people and it shows.
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Our friends have a diversity of jobs with an emphasis in public service. We all have to work with a computer but it is not the primary job function. Im a Constable on patrol COP in the local county jail, and my fiancé is a nurse.
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Law. I do law. Time consuming.
Cheers,
Dave
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I deliver auto glass for an auto glass distributing company, so there is another new one, and I never know whats going to be next. Let ya know when it falls in my lap.
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ikefromla
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uh, i'm a painter, not a house painter. i go to art school and major in fine art (painting/printmaking).. guess that means i'm not into computers or engineering.. but i work at a computerized rock gym
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Yup,
Math major (sort of), engineering minor...100% nerd, huh?
Oh well, when I graduate I'll get to make stuff blow up!
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We are all Enginners in computers or Paramedic firefighters.....some two I'm a computer geek/Paramedic firefighter.
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I'm a network administrator so i guess that is the same thing
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In reply to: Just curious about something...literally 90 percent of guy climbers I've met
Well, we've never met but you can add me to the list of Civil Engineers that climb.
In reply to: What's up with that? Is it the problem solving? The technical gear? The peace and quiet of the crags? Just wondering.
I'd say it's all of those things. Don't get me wrong, engineering is really neat BUT...there isn't much adrenaline pumping while I'm at the office.
Unless, of course, you count the time I got called to the Big Boss's office. :(
There was lots of adrenaline pumping as I tried to figure out what I could be getting the call in for. Turns out they needed my SSN for some form. :)
In reply to: every time I meet a guy out at the crags and no matter what he looks like or what I'd hypothesize he does, it is always either engineering or computers...ALWAYS!
The best/most reliable outdoors partners that I have had are all engineers or computer people.
Engineers come in all shapes and sizes (as you have found out). Gone are the days of pocket protectors and black rimmed glasses. (Thank gosh).
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I'm a computer programmer/mathematician.
Wow, that's quite a pattern. It's fascinating and counter-intuitive that so many climbers would be in quantitative/analytical professions. I would have guessed that rock climbing would attract the same type of people that skateboarding and surfing does. But clearly that's not the case. Wonder why...
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I am a construction foreman.
I work for a company that work in building sealants. We seal up expansion joints in buildings with caulking.
Sometimes I get to rappel off the side of buildings to do my work.
The cool part is that we get to climb all the concrete tilt panel joints before we caulk them. The ladder climbing and caulking guns keep my forearms in shep while I am at work also.
Its not as glorious as a inside desk job but it pays the bills.
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I work in retail.. For home depot, and climbing is the only thing that keeps me from going Nucking Futs at work. So chalk another one up to something other than an engineer, or computer geek :D
Tim
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im goin to major in engineering next year, so yeah, lots of engineers.
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I am an engineer for now. I am seriously considering taking a leave of absence from work to climb all summer.
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i'm an outdoor education major, but i do dabble in quantum physics theory in my spare time...ever heard of schrodinger's cat?
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I am a journalist in the Navy, and my best friend who is a guy is majoring in some business thing and opening up his own club.
However, most o fhe guys I have climbed with do seem to fall into the engineering catagory. I have even climbed with a guy who works at NASA. itneresting.
Erica
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May 11, 2003, 12:35 PM
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(IT_students)++;
... this happens when you deal with formal languages the most of your time ...
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May 11, 2003, 3:15 PM
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Well i'm a new person here, finally found this place, but i'm in no way an engineer or a comp sci person, truly i'm a student at uni. but my major is geography and leisure tourism and society, i seem to be one of the few in this field around here! :o
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I'm a student as well, right now my major is biology but might be changing to health sciences. I hope to go to med school someday...even though it will not offer lots of time to climb.
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Education: Mining Engineer
Job: Logistics consulting
Go figure...
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May 12, 2003, 2:19 PM
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Architect! (but I thought about Engineering, not too long though)
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out of 16 pages which I won't search thru, so I don't remember if I replied already. I'm also a g33k - I'm 29 now and have been programming since I was a PRETEEN. Although I enjoy my work, I enjoy it even more when I can get away from technology!
Another interesting survey (although hard to do) - what percentage of the "geeks" only stick with geek stuff; meaning nothing outdoors, artsy, or whatever. To me, even if only occasional, climbing and outdoors stuff is a great reliever from being attached to a computer so long, and I find it dramatically increases my "happiness".
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May 12, 2003, 5:08 PM
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Network Infrastructure Engineer at work
Working towards a Telecommunication Management degree at school
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I am a climber and I make maps for my living. But the clincher is. I do it with computers. My wife is into web design. Can't do that without computers. And I am writing this response with my computer.:lol:
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drkodos
May 12, 2003, 5:38 PM
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Real climbers live at the other end of the economic spectrum...... 8)
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crack_climber
May 12, 2003, 11:48 PM
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well, chalk one up for Youth Ministry degree (or soon to be anyways!) :)
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mr_gondola
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Yep, another engineer. Mechanical engineering major, graduating in two weeks! Hurray, then I'll never have to study engineering again...because that' not going to be my job for sure! :shock:
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In reply to: Education: Mining Engineer
I'm a mining engineering student... currently co-op'ing in North America's deepest salt mine!! There's lots of rock 2300' underground!!
where'd you go to school calfcramp??
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I'm a Web designer and software developer
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Mech. Engineer student here... Working as an Aero. Engineer / Software Programmer.
Just trying to hold up the stereotype.
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I'm a physicist... and most of the guys I climb with are too...
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Geologist working in the environmental field. But I've climbed with a lot of engineers (mainly civil and geotechnical).
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I'm an aerospace engineer.
I usually climb with engineers because they understand all the gear and how to make it work.
Same reason I sleep with nurses.
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physiology & microbiology
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Librarian in training aka I'm working on my Masters of Library and Information Science. Though my BA is in Computer Science.
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ikefromla
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Printmaking (ie slightly more marketable than painting but still fine art) major at Pratt Institute in Brooklyn, NY. i climb some too. rar.
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matttracyg
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Add me to your computer guy list.
A partner of mine who isn't a member of this site is a computer guy as well.
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Add me to your microbiology Staph. :lol:
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Jan 29, 2005, 2:55 AM
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I do land development work, but I have to deal with engineers
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Since there are so many of you out there that are Engineers, any of you want to higher one for a summer internship???? :lol:
Mechanical Engineering BS and MS now going for the PhD. Doing research in...Controls (computer side of mech e)
yes, I got Bull Sh*t, More Sh*t, and now I am Piling it higher and Deeper.
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I work in IT and am working on my MS in Info Systems, however, I do eventually plan to leave the IT field and enter law enforcement. A majority of the weekend warrior Gunkies I climb with are in the science/engineering/IT fields, although my two main partners are in construction. I have climbed with a congressman, but he has a PhD in physics.
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Going into ME next year at CU.
But obviously engineers are the coolest people out there.
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Another one in computers; more specifically, computer music. So is my boyfriend, who also climbs. I know some climbers who do a lot of diverse jobs, but I have to say, a high percentage of them work in computers. I've not met any enginneers who climb yet, though.
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Math teacher, climbing hubby is an Art Director in advertising
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I've been many things throughout the years: forklift operator and instructor, quality control technician, shipping supervisor, welder, white water raft guide, raptor rehabilitator, laborer, carpenter, wandering martial arts expert, drug dealer and prostitute. I've found that engineers have a tendency to pick their noses quite frequently and have a geeky, anti-social streak, so I shun that particular profession. Computers are good for downloading porn , ordering brides from war ravaged third world countries, or obtaining cheap prescriptions from Mexcio and Canada. In this incarnation, I've been doing some temp labor to see what the working conditions are like in my area,and frankly, they suck. Back to school for me.
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major in Nursing with a minor in Russian. Going for an MS in anasthesia. Girlfriend is also a nurse
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Mech E
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B.A. (chemistry), Ph.D. (molecular immunology) and a J.D. (in the spring) -- which means a scientist that found the lab bench too confining and sought an office job to have more time for climbing and backpacking.
My climbing parter/husband combined a photography undergrad with a J.D. and is a judge.
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getting degree in international politics and intelligence studies; james bond maybe? fun thread,
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I guess it's true then.. but I was a climber (age 14) long before I became a Network Engineer/Consultant. I even spent time as a climbing bum, where I could live a whole summer on $200.00. Now I cannot survive a day on that.
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Geography...
but man, computers..thats cool too...
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Howdy-
Your message made me laugh. The buisness man must be the odd man out, half the guys I climb w/ are physicists or engineers and the other half of us are in health care or biological sciences of some kind. There's a little more diversity amoung the women I know who climb... but not much.
Stay healthy and play hard.
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I'm studying Aerospace Engineering and my main climbing partner is a Computer Engineer. I also climb with my engineering friends. I think of aid climbing as engineering itself.
As a matter of fact I should be studying Control Syetems Analysis right now for my midterm on Tuesday. I always wind up on this site when I should be studying. AAAAAAHHH!
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Industrial and CAD Designer.
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In reply to: Industrial and CAD Designer.
I make CAD systems... I guess that makes me a CAD designer, too! :D
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As a philosophy professor I teach formal logic. Sometimes I tell my students that I would do formal proofs for fun--a comment that always elicites groans from some in the class. Some in the class just never really "get it". There are always quite a few, however, who come out of the class feeling the same as I do about the satisfaction of solving difficult logic problems. I suspect most climbers would fall into the latter group.
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College student and about to become a cop. I can not do math if my life depended on it. However i do enjoy using computers. But think about the logic with this thread. Who is more likely to respond to a post like this. It must be assumed that we are all somewhat familiar with computers in order to be on this site right? I highly doubt that someone who is not at all familiar with computers would post regularly.
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I thought every climber was a carpenter.
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Well, for the record, I work as a park ranger, and most of the people I climb with are firefighters, in construction, .com'ers, other rangers, photographers, and yoga instructors, as well as a teacher, a dude that works at Costco, and a parametic. So at least out here in the west things are pretty diverse. Just a thought. :)
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BS in Electrical Engineering Tech. and an MBA, wife has a BS in Aero engineering and working on her MS in aero. I think personally I love the technology side but I alos love having the living shit scared out of me off the deck. :twisted:
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Here is what I have noticed. The type of climbing varies with the field. Sport climbers have the widest spectrum of fields. The trad climbers I know seem to be engineers. Alot of the alpinists seem to be physicists. Biologists seem to be very outdoors oriented as well. They do just about every thing from sport to trad to ice to general backpacking.
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Work in IT for the past 10 years. I like to fix broken things and if Bill Gates knew how to make things work correctly, I wouldn't be able to afford my gear :wink:
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Iīm a Graphic Designer and a musician... check out my bandīs site 8^) designed by me :roll:
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CERAMIST (sara-mist)
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moonshine505
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engineer at a semiconductor manufacturing facility (we make a chip called the pentium, you may have heard of it), so I guess that makes me both...and a huge dork :wink:
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tyify
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I also work for a local news studio. I work the morning shift (up at 3 am there by 4 gone by 10ish) so I have tons of time to climb during the day. Its a grueling schedule to get used to but its awesome once you do get used to it. You have to have a healthy cafffeine addiction going for you however...
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prankster
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i'm into computers.
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obsessed_newbie
Feb 6, 2005, 11:49 PM
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Male climbers are and computers....it's been something i always wondered. I thought i was just me when i noticed the very obvious trend. I think they all got the same memo or something. yep, that has to be it...a memo
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iowaclimber
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I am doing an iternship with First Automoblie Works in Changchun China. Are there any crags in the area?
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littleclimber
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I work on powerlines. It's nice being in the air all the time.
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tigermeat
Feb 7, 2005, 6:22 PM
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Masters in Mechnical Engineering
Trad at heart
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prest_one
Feb 7, 2005, 6:30 PM
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I dont want to be considered as a doctor, lawyer, computer geek or an engineer. I am simply a climber, everything else is only a means to get money to climb.
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friktion
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I am the Asset Recovery and Recycling Coordinator for a computer recycling company. Makes me semi techy, I guess.
Friktion
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I bought one physicist friend into the sport. Myself, I do an odd mix of clinical psychology and anthropology; I do some research in South Asia, in the Tibetan ethnic areas. 8^)
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guess im guilty of being and engineer but I dont think there are that many engineer climbers. In my office of engineers there are only about 1% of us that are climbers. In my climbing club, cant think of anyone else that is an engineer but there are several IT type computer folks in the group, by adding computers to the mix you open up a large body of folks, even though I dont do IT stuff 90% of what I do is with a computer.
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zylah
May 12, 2005, 11:07 AM
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I had realised that nearly everyone i know who climbs either works with computers, or even more scarily relaxes after a hard days work by playing computer games.
i think its probably the problem solving, and also its a nonteam sport.
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kachoong
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flawrence
May 12, 2005, 11:35 AM
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I teach middle school
- but I teach a computer class and an engineering class as well as my science classes
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jandalsgirl
May 12, 2005, 12:11 PM
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I study astronomy which means I spend all day sitting in front of a computer frustrated. All the climbers I spend a lot of time with are either engineers, computer geeks, or science types. I don't know how much this says about climbers in general, or if it just says something about the type of people I spend time with....
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nolo
May 13, 2005, 10:47 PM
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business - public accounting
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neurostar
May 13, 2005, 10:55 PM
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In reply to: I study astronomy which means I spend all day sitting in front of a computer frustrated.
Haha. I do the same thing.
I'm a physics major, but right now, I'm taking 6 months off to do full-time astronomy research.
jandalsgirl, what are you studying? I'm working on radio galaxies and emission line nebulae. I dabble a little bit in stars too though :wink:
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jandalsgirl
May 13, 2005, 11:05 PM
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Neurostar,
I like everything (it's all exciting), but I'm currently working with stars. I'm attempting to model light curves using an elliptical binary model, but given how the code doesn't seem to like me, it feels like I'm banging my head against a brick wall.
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gochubug
May 13, 2005, 11:32 PM
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I haven't read through all twenty pages to make sure I didn't already reply to this, but I am a retired band director and composer. :roll:
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decaf
May 13, 2005, 11:41 PM
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IT Guy, Half of my old climbing partners were in computers, the other half was geolgists.
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kachoong
May 14, 2005, 12:00 AM
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....Soil mapper.... quarter time outside digging holes.... quarter time in the lab.... half the time on computers....
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codhands
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Not really all that nerdy though.
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montentcontent
May 14, 2005, 1:20 AM
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My university's climbing club, which got me into the sport, consists of about 70% engineers, 20% natural resources/ecology/related subject, and 10% random.
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robdotcalm
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I haven't read through this whole thread so I don't know if this has been mentioned before. There was a book written that did address, amongst other things, the sociology of who climbs: R. G. Mitchell, Jr., Mountain Experience, U. Chicago Press, 1983.
Cheers,
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smax
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I do remember wondering why I was one of the only ones in art school in the S.U. Outing Club. All the other art kids were like me in computer graphics or something like Industial design, etc... These days none of the climbers I know are nerds. Maybe it's an East Coast thing?
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vawwyakr
May 25, 2005, 9:23 PM
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Computer Programmer here and it's not just rock climbing. I also WW kayak and it seems like most of the people I meet are in some sort of technical field. I think it's a lot of the same things (problem solving and challenging one self).
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pheenixx
May 26, 2005, 4:10 AM
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chock up another computer geek programming engineering type here...
ditto on Kayaking & problem solving -- Is anyone keeping a tally..???
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zoebird
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i'm a yoga teacher.
i have a highly analytical mind, and yoga is a very technical endeavor, even though it's on the subjective side of life. Lots of problem solving on multiple levels (physical, mental/emotional, spiritual), and it takes a lot of dedication. I love my work.
most of the things that i do require a level of dedication and skill. I tend to like 'extremes' in the sense that i do triathlon training (oly distances right now), as well as 'extreme' yoga practices (long ones, more than 2 or 3 hours; difficult sequences or asanas) and difficult emotional and spiritual challanges (right now, big movement in the areas of grief and attachment, fear and embarassment as elements of attachment and saving face, etc).
i think rock climbing fits in well with this.
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marinaaxid25
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Interesting that you brought that up, 'cause I've noticed that pattern. However, I've met a lot of artists. Most of those artists are painters and such. I'm a freelance graphic designer---that's just a fancier way of saying "artist" :D
I currently climb with one engineer and one science buff.
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bigjonnyc
May 26, 2005, 1:44 PM
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I'm a mechanical engineering student, and my girlfriend, who is the one responsible for my new found love (climbing), is an ME major as well.
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yetanotherdave
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I'm a computer geek, but I've been a climber way longer than a techie.
It's a great job for a climber - lots of $$ for shiny toys, lots of vacation, and you can recover from your play-time at the office :)
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craqho
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I'm an Architect. Everyone trips, as they typically don't know of anyone else in architecture that climbs. For the record, I do climb with a couple of Engineers, but they are women...
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May 26, 2005, 2:34 PM
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In reply to: I'm a computer geek, but I've been a climber way longer than a techie. It's a great job for a climber - lots of $$ for shiny toys, lots of vacation, and you can recover from your play-time at the office :)
LOL ~ chuckle --- nice one.. :righton:
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jeep4evr
May 26, 2005, 2:56 PM
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I suck at computer programming. I took basic java and have no clue how I passed with an A. I couldn't write a simple program now if I tried and I took the class only this last fall semester. I've wanted to get into a few engineering courses just for the fun of it, but so far I havent because my course load is already so full, so I know nothing about engineering. However, I am a math major, with a physics minor, so thats close enough to the other two to count I'm guessing.
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kpj240789
May 26, 2005, 3:01 PM
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if only 90% of climbers you've met around the campfire are then no, not all climbers are engineers.
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May 26, 2005, 3:07 PM
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I am an engineer. I drive Thomas the train.
I'm a stay at home dad. If I was better at math, I would have probably been an engineer. I have that type of mind. I like to build and work with my hands. I love figuring things out and the details of it all. I contracted my house and took on several large projects and much of the detail finish work. Gotta like the details if you're gonna like aid climbing & expeditions.
Drake
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sekcot
May 26, 2005, 3:31 PM
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Three architects, two interior designers, and an engineer where I'm working at.
I myself am an architect.
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I will be leaving my position as a Biology Instructor this May. I will be entering the field of Internet Marketing with a new company that my buddies have started. Wish me luck, it is kinda scary to leave the security of a job like teaching.
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I am in computers (MIS) and my two climbing buddies are a civil engineer and a graphic designer. booya
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jeep4evr
May 26, 2005, 6:18 PM
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In reply to: Wish me luck, it is kinda scary to leave the security of a job like teaching.
hehe, that's funny you mention that. Over here 41 full-time teachers and 31 part-time teachers just got the boot in one of the school districts.
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deafclimber
May 26, 2005, 6:42 PM
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i am the numbers scrambler(accountant) and i have climbed with coffee maker, engineer, psychologist, and computer techie.
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I am a software developer and climb with another software developer and a mechanical engineer.
Eric
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In reply to: ...leaving my position as a Biology Instructor this May. I will be entering the field of Internet Marketing with a new company that my buddies have started. Wish me luck, it is kinda scary to leave the security of a job like teaching.
I think it's scarier to be entering the field of Internet Marketing....best of luck..!! :P
(former X-dot-commer)
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I am a guesstimator in steel fabrication.
Plus or Minus 10%, no problem.
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I'm a coder (software developer) and I climb with a fellow coder. But his wife climbs and is a dentail assistant.
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I am an intervener. I help kids that can't help themselves. Basically I know what is best for people more than they do, but since adults don't let me control their lives, I like hanging and controlling kids. Pays good to, and sometimes I get some phone numbers but just have to wait until they hit age....
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bigchief
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BM2, United States Coast Guard. (currently underway)
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the_wise_guy
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carpenter.
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I'm (deeply) into computers, but I have yet to meet another climber who is.
My recent climbing partners have included a couple (literally) of (amazing) psychologists, various business majors, painters, a physical therapist, and a (perfect) housewife.
Most other geeks I know aren't that physically active.
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timd
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Am I the only one who performs autopsies on this site? :shock:
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kachoong
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jobless.... still in highschool though so no its not the kind some dream about living in vans and climbing all over everyday
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soon to be..... bioengineer
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First off, I have to admit that I didn't read the entire thread. This thing is LONG! But since page 22 seemed to keep the tone of the first 8, I'll reply to the OP. Apologies if I repeat something said on page 9-21.
Yup, engineer AND into computers. My climber wife is a physiotherapist, though. Hates computers too.
As for the logic, I figure that an engineers workday is so devoid of adrenalin and risktaking that climbing is the perfect complement.
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IT manager. I used to be a nuclear technician, but the sleep deprivation impacted my hobbies too much. Then, my ex-wife impacted my hobbies too much. Now, old age is impacting them. Guess I can't dump that!
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IT manager. I used to be a nuclear technician, but the sleep deprivation impacted my hobbies too much. Then, my ex-wife impacted my hobbies too much. Now, old age is impacting them. Guess I can't dump that!
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Chemical engineer/Masters involving programming and simulations, so I'm both I guess. :) My climbing partner is IT, and most of my climbing friends are engineer/CS. It's a trend I've noticed, definitely.
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Distribution and logistics manager here
My primary climbing parters (past and present)
Brian Architect
Bob Radiologist
Eric High School Teacher
Chris Law Student
Richard Operations Manager
Tina Hair Stylist
Steve Video Editor
Chris CFO
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In reply to: I'm a computer geek, but I've been a climber way longer than a techie. It's a great job for a climber - lots of $$ for shiny toys, lots of vacation, and you can recover from your play-time at the office :)
You have lots of vacation?! Darn, I must be in the wrong techie job ...heheh.
Anyway, I'm also one of those 'computer people'. I've been a techie longer than a climber though, so I'm trying to catch up on what I've been missing. I like climbing because it's a chance to do something else challenging after hours of being cooped up in the office in front of a computer. I'm able to push myself physically, not only mentally. I find it a good outlet for stress too. =) I may have a problem typing on the keyboard sometimes after 'playing', but it's worth it.
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I'm a freshman chemical engineering student at UIC. Oh, and beaker its good to hear there are chemical engineers climbing. Go figure!
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Computer Science major at the University of Iowa, two of my climbing buddies are big into the math sciences as well. There are also two girls that come into the gym a lot that are in engineering. California and Colorado both are big into computer component production. I wonder if there is a correlation between where computer part companies set up shop and the abundance of rock to climb?
j4d3d - I hear you on typing being a little difficul after "playing".
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Assistant product manager for an orthopaedic implant manufacturer. (Joint replacement products for knees, hips, and shoulders)
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Matt.........I don't know that I've ever met another ChemE climbing, glad to meet you. Good luck with school!
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I'm an actor in children's theatre.
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I'm a dj at a radio station. I COULDA been an engineer. . . if I only would have applied myself. . . . . :lol:
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Systems Adminsitrator in a bio lab
it pays for my shiny gear and more school
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Hay MattB and Beaker,
I also represent the Chemical Engineering crowd. Two more years at the University of California, Riverside and I will have my PhD. PM me if you are ever in Southern California. I would love to go climbing with some other Chemical Engineers. Take care,
Ronnie Munoz
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Im in the computer industry. I work for a domain registrar.
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I'm a pediatric intensive care physician working in a children's hospital. Many of my partners are engineers or computer type people though.
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In reply to: Am I the only one who performs autopsies on this site? :shock:
I did a few back in med school
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charley
Dec 28, 2005, 8:52 PM
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I'm uneducated manuel labor/forman with bad attitude and less than 2 years to go.
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mankyanchor
Dec 28, 2005, 9:37 PM
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I am an electrician does that count for anything.....guess not
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lofstromc
Dec 28, 2005, 9:41 PM
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Landscape Architect, kinda like an engineer but not as respected. :(
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shanz
Dec 28, 2005, 10:09 PM
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Telecom Network repair tech
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welikoa
Dec 28, 2005, 11:06 PM
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I am a pastor of a large church and probably the only one! Every Sunday, I have my gear in my truck and the second I step off the pulpit, I go climbing as fast as I can. I bet im the only pastor who has ever soloed a 5.11b! haha
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roshiaitareya
Dec 28, 2005, 11:42 PM
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I don't know if anyone has said it yet, I didn't want to read all 24 pages, but I'm an Archaeologist
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takanhase
Dec 29, 2005, 12:00 AM
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Nope Just a Marketing Associate, Lots of free time to climb plus $$$ to support my climbing habits
:)
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turtlehead
Dec 29, 2005, 12:38 AM
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I didn't want to read all 24 pages either... so just in case, wedding photographer.
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moabbeth
Dec 29, 2005, 1:39 AM
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Sweet Jeebus....I started this thread almost THREE years ago. I can't believe it's still alive.
And I can't believe three years later 90% of the climbers I know are still engineers, techs, computerheads or some other like field.
Oh, and edited to add CONSTRUCTION! Know a ton of those.
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arrowhead
Dec 29, 2005, 2:43 AM
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There used to be a little joke among my climbing friends - if we dropped a piece of gear off a multipitch route, chances are, it would probably hit an IT guy :-)
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nicklikesfire
Dec 29, 2005, 8:07 AM
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I'm going to school to become an engineer...
untill then I make snow, and do manual labor.
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ihuang
Dec 31, 2005, 3:56 AM
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I would get to know you, but I work as an engineer, working on geeky computer stuff. Who said geeks are unfit?
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tnmountainman
Dec 31, 2005, 4:38 AM
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Preacher and Plumber
My climbing partners are my wife and one of my best friends (another plumber). 8^)
Guess I am abnormal :lol: :lol: :lol:
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burny_md
Dec 31, 2005, 10:35 PM
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Computer Engineer here. ;)
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fire_or_retire
Jan 1, 2006, 12:51 AM
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I do gravity research. no joke
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evanhsu
Jan 1, 2006, 1:09 AM
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Well I studied electrical engineering in school, but I'm currently an unemployed climber. So does that make me an engineer or a climbing bum?
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curtis_g
Jan 28, 2006, 9:55 PM
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I'm a Mech. Eng. Major.
My #1 climbing mentor is a PE teacher
but once majored in Geology.
My #1 teacher is a Physics teacher
who is also a great climber.
My friend who is into climbing is
going to be an EMT and does some
construction.
The girls I have as friends that do
any sort of climbing are gong to be
Political Science Major and photo-
journalism major.
But I'm the most excited about climbing
out of all of them (besides my mentors),
and I'm probably tied for the best climber.
So that should provide a nice spectrum
of interest and skill level.
What a MASSIVE topic!!!
-Curtis
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curtis_g
Jan 28, 2006, 9:58 PM
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In reply to: I do gravity research. no joke
Well what have you found out?
It's still there...rite?!?!?! :wink:
If you research the universal forces and even
the possibly simpification of the forces of the
universe into a single one...than that is an
awesome topic. Sweet job.
- Curtis
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cal_gundert05
Jan 28, 2006, 10:33 PM
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I'm a math major...although I'll probably end up teaching high school calculus if I don't make $1 million solving the Rhiemann Hypothesis. :wink:
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wetyeti
Jan 28, 2006, 10:38 PM
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male dancer. i do private partiesand stuff. pm me for details :wink:
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wetyeti
Jan 28, 2006, 10:41 PM
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male dancer. i do private parties and stuff. pm me for info :wink:
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curtis_g
Jan 28, 2006, 11:05 PM
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In reply to: I'm a math major...although I'll probably end up teaching high school calculus if I don't make $1 million solving the Rhiemann Hypothesis. :wink:
I'd like to see that proof done. It's on my list of 'things i'd like to see proven' right up there with Bernoulli's Principle.
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dvd
Jan 28, 2006, 11:09 PM
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Aeronautical and Mechanical Engineer
It was pretty much all engineers at my schools wall too, the business majors didnt climb...
~D
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mink
Jan 28, 2006, 11:37 PM
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Add another engineer (ceramic / material science) to the list. Well, engineer turned ibanker after grad school.
I don't know too many climbers, but the three other climbers I know are quant folks too (system engineer, physicist and computer programmer).
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winoclimber
Jan 28, 2006, 11:43 PM
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im a philosophy and history double major... and im thinking about going on to a phd
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the_mitt
Jan 29, 2006, 12:12 AM
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(This post was edited by the_mitt on Nov 19, 2006, 6:22 PM)
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clayman
Jan 29, 2006, 1:21 AM
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Material scientist here. Two out of the three partners I have have physics degrees.
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daithi
Jan 29, 2006, 1:44 AM
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In reply to: I'd like to see that proof done. It's on my list of 'things i'd like to see proven' right up there with Bernoulli's Principle.
What part of Bernoulli's principle do you not consider proven? It is a statement of the conservation of energy along a streamline. I at least would consider its derivation quite rigorous.
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ozoneclimber
Jan 29, 2006, 1:48 AM
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Just speaking for myself and a few friends, I'm a paramedic and two of my partners are also in the medical field. My best friend is a chemist, and another partner just got out of KSU and he is a philosophy major. We're all guys.
-Bobby
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curtis_g
Jan 29, 2006, 3:04 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: I'd like to see that proof done. It's on my list of 'things i'd like to see proven' right up there with Bernoulli's Principle. What part of Bernoulli's principle do you not consider proven? It is a statement of the conservation of energy along a streamline. I at least would consider its derivation quite rigorous.
Everyone knows that it happens so it is a principle. No one knows why. Would you care to explain to me why faster moving fluids exhibit a lower preassure? I'm pretty sure that hasn't been done. At least I've been taught that it hasn't and haven't heard otherwise. Well, lat me clarify that 'proven' word. It has been derived mathematically and theoretically but disproven repeatedly in wind tunnels.
here:
http://www.private2atp.com/lift_art.php
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dougfm
Jan 30, 2006, 8:10 AM
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In reply to: Everyone knows that it happens so it is a principle. No one knows why.
Which is probably why there are 5 pages of Bernoulli correlations in Perry's. If if it was just a conservation equation, you could just plug and chug.
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skatedork
Jan 30, 2006, 1:59 PM
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<--- Software Engineer
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rock_ranger
Jan 30, 2006, 2:43 PM
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VP of Operations for a technologies company. Not a true geek but I have to manage a bunch of them :D
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lordshockspeare
Jan 30, 2006, 3:00 PM
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I donīt think Iīve seen meteorologists yet!
Soon to be anyway, I am going be screwed if I do actually get a job because I really donīt like working with computors!
My older brother who I climb with has a pretty peculiar job status....
is a professional dog musher in the winter and builds trails in the summer.
(with a geo degree from an Ivy league school!)
But really Iīve climbed with a lot more jobless bums than computor people! So iīd be more tempted to ask:
Are all climbers jobless bums?
Right now I qualify as the jobless bum category...
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I will soon be a jobless bum when I seperate from the military soon. Then it is climbing all the time!
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scrapedape
Jan 30, 2006, 3:14 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: I'd like to see that proof done. It's on my list of 'things i'd like to see proven' right up there with Bernoulli's Principle. What part of Bernoulli's principle do you not consider proven? It is a statement of the conservation of energy along a streamline. I at least would consider its derivation quite rigorous. Everyone knows that it happens so it is a principle. No one knows why. Would you care to explain to me why faster moving fluids exhibit a lower preassure? I'm pretty sure that hasn't been done. At least I've been taught that it hasn't and haven't heard otherwise. Well, lat me clarify that 'proven' word. It has been derived mathematically and theoretically but disproven repeatedly in wind tunnels. here: http://www.private2atp.com/lift_art.php
He just told you why: conservation of energy.
The link you posted is irrelevant.
In reply to: BERNOULLIS PRINCIPLE has been proven mathematically several times and disproven over and over in wind tunnel tests. The question still exists as to how the theory was adopted at all since Bernoulli himself died 123 years before the Wright brothers took the first powered flight in 1903. Most experts concur that this principle has the most flaws and the most followers. Go figure.
He's talking about using Bernoulli's principle to explain aerodynamic lift, not its validity in general. Do you have poor comprehension skills, or did you just not read what you linked?
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asioux70
Jan 30, 2006, 4:50 PM
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I work at the L.A. Zoo doing construction. I work with concrete and anything that has to do with masonary. I also do my share of rough carpentry. I also boulder in the chimpanzee exhibit when there not there. I have a full time job, but manage to climb twice during the week at Stoney Point. On the weekends I climb out at Joshua Tree all the time. Will be there this weekend. Armando (Pasadena)
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dyno_mutt
Jan 30, 2006, 5:34 PM
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I'm a newbie climber with mainly gym experience(In Gainesville, FL there isn't much else) I am currently employed by a dive product manufacturer doing quality control work. Though my main goal is to become graphic designer and/or rock star. :lol:
I'm taking my first trip in May to do some bouldering in North Carolina. I love the sport and look forward to learning more and more every day.
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