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onelung
Feb 21, 2003, 2:43 AM
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Yea that is pretty awesome, Dont worry about the post, Catra posted this
http://www.rockclimbing.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26148&highlight=
I swear before Ammon even got off the rock, I dunno.
I look forward to hearing it from The HardMan himself.
Its all good,
Bill
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moabbeth
Feb 21, 2003, 3:11 AM
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Great job Am!!! Congrats.
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duracellbunny
Feb 21, 2003, 3:34 AM
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Great job!!!!! :D :D
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wv5ten
Feb 21, 2003, 3:43 AM
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congrats
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catra
Feb 21, 2003, 4:44 AM
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I have a secret..... Those two are up to something else this weekend.
I can't say what. It's top secret....HE HE HE
Stay tuned.
Catra McNeely
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onelung
Feb 21, 2003, 4:50 AM
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Thats cool, Damn and I gotta work! Well its not really work but I only move from sealevel to <150Ft Sea level> Not much compared to what the Yosemite Hardman may be up to!
Ho'oMau, And Thanks for the news Catra,
Bill
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rrrADAM
Feb 21, 2003, 12:29 PM
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Ammon is our humble site hardman, he does not ring the "look at me" bell relentlessly.
Is this secret near a gambling town ??? ;)
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twrock
Feb 21, 2003, 1:38 PM
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Wow! I'm looking forward to "the rest of the story."
And I agree, Adam. Ammon is a class act.
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elcapbuzz
Feb 21, 2003, 11:14 PM
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Haa haa ha, No Adam.... that's a different secret. The Secret Cave:
http://rocknrun.net/pandemonium/cave.html
Well, I'm sure Catra didn't want to spill the beans before we "actually" did it.... BUT, Brian and I are going back to Zion this weekend.
This time we have something else up our sleeves.
I'll tell you all about it when I get back.
Cheers, Ammon
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flamer
Feb 21, 2003, 11:19 PM
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Sweet mother of god, that's fast!!!! That had to be like the 4th ascent? I'm not sure That a lot of the people looking at this really know just how bad ass it is! Ammon you are a true speed demon, especially to have done this on a truly hard aid testpiece such as Latitudes. Of course you also had one hell of a partner! Brian Mccray has got to be one of the most unknown aid MASTERS out there...
Good stuff fella's...
josh
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elcapbuzz
Feb 21, 2003, 11:30 PM
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I agree Josh. Brian is the BEST wall partner I've ever had the honor to rope up with.
It's mind boggeling how he get's overlooked as much as he does. He's put up sick routes in the REAL mountains around the world, as well as climbing 5.14.
I don't think a lot of people can really grasp the concept of what we did.... unless you've been up there.
It was "in your face" just about every placement.
I'm getting psyched to rope up again this weekend.
STAY tuned!!! Ammon
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addiroids
Feb 22, 2003, 6:55 AM
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Good job buddy. You are truely a master of this climbing madness.
Paul
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elcapbuzz
Feb 24, 2003, 1:56 AM
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Thanks Guys!!!
Ok, it wasn't really a secret.... just didn't want to say anything, until we did something.
Brian and I were trying to send 5 Zion routes in a day. Well, we ran out of steam after climbing three routes mainly due to only having three hours of sleep.
BUT, we sent three routes in a day..... in record time.
Prodigal Sun - 2:36, Moonlight Buttress - 1:57 and Lunar Ecstasy - 4:09.
I want to thank Joe Auer (pinscar) for all of your help and coming down from SL to take pics of us.
Next time we'll try it on a day we didn't have to work, so we can get some more sleep.
Cheers, Ammon
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passthepitonspete
Feb 24, 2003, 2:29 AM
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What the....?
How the heck did you guys have time to make coffee?
[Madness, I say...]
Looking forward to the pix, mate. Good on ya!
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mrhardgrit
Feb 24, 2003, 7:44 PM
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Wow! That's really amazing! A real inspiration....
PS. Belated well done on New Jersey Turn Pike - I didn't realise what you were on at the time until I saw the addition on Hans' site. Your pirate cries kept me motivated and living!
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Feb 24, 2003, 8:07 PM
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tag for later reading
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weaselman
Feb 24, 2003, 8:10 PM
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how bout we all just forget i said that? didnt mean to offend you ammon. a little blue bird PMed me and said it wasn't true. funnily enough, the bird admitted to bivying illegally in Yosemite a lot. I cant seem to remember his name, though. Was it peter or something? hmm
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skywalker
Feb 24, 2003, 9:24 PM
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Awesome job! It would take me longer than that to rack up!
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elcapbuzz
Mar 10, 2003, 4:59 PM
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My TR on Latitiudes is almost done..... but I'm not goint to post it, YET.
One of the rags might be publishing it and I don't want to give it away until after the issue is gone.
There is one pic of the ascent here:
http://www.rocknrun.net/cgallery.html
Cheers, Ammon
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Mar 16, 2003, 5:19 PM
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Sweet pic bro! No enhancement there, eh?
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elcapbuzz
Mar 16, 2003, 5:23 PM
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Enhancement? I didn't even have a chisel.....
JK. Yeah, I used Adobe to outline those colorful and bitchin' Yates speed aiders I'm using.
I think that's the 3rd pitch........
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passthepitonspete
Mar 16, 2003, 5:41 PM
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OK, OK - after scratching my head about this for some time, I have finally figured it out. You used a thermos, right? You brought your coffee in a thermos. That has to be it, right? There is no way you guys had time to brew it on the go. [At least, I don't think you did....]
But dude! That photo is ETS! I thought that it was a water-colour painting. I highly recommend you submit it here, as it'll be voted to make the front page for sure! Very very cool.
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elcapbuzz
Mar 16, 2003, 7:01 PM
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Haa haa haa, you're too funny Pete.......
No, we didn't bring a thermos.
We brought instant coffee (rolled in a plastic bag). We boiled water (in a small camp fire) with a chili can we used the night before and cut off a water bottle for a cup. We then flattened the can with our hammers and put it at the bottom of the hualbag.
Cheers mate, Ammon
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passthepitonspete
Mar 16, 2003, 7:22 PM
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Geez, you had me worried for a second. I thought you were going to say that you put a pinch of instant coffee between your lip and your teeth. [Note: I have never done this with coffee, only 'baccy]
Mmmmm-mm! Chili-flavoUred coffee! Ya just gotta love it, eh?
As for the bit about cutting off the top of the water bottle to make a cup:
The Place: Big Sur Ledge, Sea of Dreams, El Capitan
The Setting: The infamous Keg Party, May 2001
Says I: "Sorry, mate - I've only got one cup. You'll have to wait til I finish my beer....."
That barnacle-bitten scurvy-ridden sea-dog Ammon had his pocket knife whipped out so fast, and that bottle decapitated so quickly, one would have thought he once worked as an executioner on the guillotine!
AAARRRRRR, may-tee!!!!
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elcapbuzz
Mar 16, 2003, 8:13 PM
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Hey man, I don't mess around when it comes to beer......... or coffee.
No, we had enough water to clean out all the remains of chili. Actually this was Brian's idea, he should get ALL the credit for being ghetto, Hhaa haa haa.
Haa haa haa, too funny!!!
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elcapbuzz
Mar 25, 2003, 5:14 AM
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Here's a couple links to the trip reports in Zion.
Enjoy!!
Cheers, Ammon
http://www.rocknrun.net/latitudes.html
http://www.rocknrun.net/linkup.html
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Mar 25, 2003, 6:29 AM
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Ok, please don't get pissed at me here, not trying to dis...
I dug the article on your website, great pictures too. The first picture shows McCray with the Streaked Wall in the background. It's huge. I'm thinking "Those guys did that in a day...holy fuck...look at that thing..." then I scroll down and am slightly surprised to find a picture of McCray bivied on a ledge 5 pitches up on what is advertised as a one day ascent, and it turns out that you guys one-dayed the steep part of the route and that the 5 "approach pitches" apparently did'nt count. Flame me if you want but to me this seems like claiming a one day of the Salathe when you started from Mammoth Terraces, just because the approach pitches are non-tech or low angle compared to the rest of the route does'nt mean they're not part of the wall...again no dis intended, I don't know shit about walls, just trying to give you a layman's perspective here...
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copperhead
Mar 25, 2003, 6:36 AM
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Latitudes looks like fun.
Nice work you wrascally wrascals!
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atg200
Mar 25, 2003, 3:56 PM
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wow ammon, that trip report was fantastic. i'm sweating in my cubicle - that was maybe the best description of hard sandstone aiding i've ever read.
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elcapbuzz
Mar 25, 2003, 5:06 PM
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Kalcario,
You have a right to be confused, we were too...... and that's why I'm VERY open about our ascent.
I already anticipated this debate.
The difference is written in the topo's.
The first pitch of the Salathe starts at the Freeblast. Mamoth Terraces is 11 pitches up.
Look at the topo for Latitudes. It starts at Rubicon Ledge.
Our initial plan was to do the approach pitches along with the route but realized it didn't really matter.
Ok, if these pitches are part of the route..... show me ANY documentation of them. They were never written up as a topo because they are NOT part of the route.
Believe me, we discussed this issue with the first ascentists before we started.
Cheers, Ammon
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Nice pictures of the wall! That route looks great. Sad to hear that Lunar has deteriorated. I hope no one is nailing on it. I have made the mistake of using cam hooks on sandstone before. It was not on a trade route but still. They worked well until one time, ping and I totally blew a placement. I have repented of my ways and feel really bad about doing this. After that I put those hooks away and will never use them on sandstone again. So the moral of the story, PLEASE DONT USE CAMHOOKS IN ZION PEOPLE nobody told me not to do this thing that I should have had enough sense to figure out myself. I told you, many others have said so before so just dont do it it ruins great routes like Lunar X. maybe I should make a separate post for my rants.
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