|
flyinghatchet
Aug 15, 2003, 3:07 AM
Post #1 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Aug 24, 2002
Posts: 742
|
haven't given the list too much thought, but some of the places i'm thinking of. there are other states i want to live in too.
england
thailand
oz
In reply to: anyone else as wacky as me?
not quite :wink:
|
|
|
|
|
calamity_chk
Aug 15, 2003, 2:54 AM
Post #2 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Apr 23, 2002
Posts: 7994
|
i know that climbers are transient by nature .. anyone else have a list of countries to live in?
i'd like to live in the following countries for a few years each. i'm sure the list will grow ..
- peru
- morocco
- chile, argentina, or brazil
- a 'stan in the middle east, probably uzbekistan or pakistan
- somewhere in europe, probably italy or greece
- australia (i've already lived there for a year but would like to spend more time up near the gold coast)
- spain
i would also like to spend a few years on a relatively remote and undeveloped island somewhere, but havent decided where yet.
anyone else as wacky as me?
|
|
|
|
|
flyinghatchet
Aug 15, 2003, 3:07 AM
Post #3 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Aug 24, 2002
Posts: 742
|
haven't given the list too much thought, but some of the places i'm thinking of. there are other states i want to live in too.
england
thailand
oz
In reply to: anyone else as wacky as me?
not quite :wink:
|
|
|
|
|
calamity_chk
Aug 15, 2003, 3:10 AM
Post #4 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Apr 23, 2002
Posts: 7994
|
In reply to: In reply to: anyone else as wacky as me? not quite :wink:
hey now -- that's not nice !!
/me pokes her tongue out at flyinghatchet
|
|
|
|
|
pehperboy
Aug 15, 2003, 8:37 AM
Post #5 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jun 21, 2003
Posts: 871
|
• Italy
• France
• Sweden, Norway
• Russia
• Vietnam
• India
• Chile, Argentina
• Ireland
|
|
|
|
|
charrock
Aug 15, 2003, 11:10 AM
Post #6 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 14, 2001
Posts: 364
|
Clmb chk since you're living in TEx I can see why one would day dream about moving;-) I'd say New Zealand. One can Kayak,climb, surf, mnt. bike, ski glaciers, get stung by those nasty jelly fish. Unfortunately I belive they closed the doors on immigration. Charlie
PS plus the kiwis might just be the best beer drinkers in the world. Put me under the table more 'n once.
|
|
|
|
|
thomasribiere
Aug 15, 2003, 1:45 PM
Post #7 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Aug 24, 2002
Posts: 9306
|
Sweden, Norway
Italy, Greece
NZ, Australia
Quebec or Vancouver area
Ca, Or, Wa, Co
|
|
|
|
|
wildtrail
Aug 15, 2003, 2:45 PM
Post #8 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jul 6, 2002
Posts: 11063
|
In reply to: anyone else as wacky as me?
No.
How about...here? :D
That, or Canada for the health care. :wink:
|
|
|
|
|
uncertaintyprinciple
Aug 15, 2003, 2:50 PM
Post #9 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jul 23, 2003
Posts: 118
|
Costa Rica.
I was there in the nineties and have always meant to go back and spend more time there.
|
|
|
|
|
hangerlessbolt
Aug 15, 2003, 3:04 PM
Post #10 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 2, 2001
Posts: 7255
|
As far a living…ie moving to…?
I’m all ready here…I just haven’t been able to experience all the US has to offer.
I’d love to travel to other countries…but to live…I like where I am.
|
|
|
|
|
winter
Aug 15, 2003, 3:40 PM
Post #11 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Apr 9, 2003
Posts: 2961
|
I ADORE calgary, I don't think there are much better places to live anywhere. That being said, I would consider moving back to Ireland (loved it when I was working there) or to France. I love the countryside in France.
|
|
|
|
|
rckclimbergurl
Aug 15, 2003, 4:06 PM
Post #12 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 4, 2002
Posts: 748
|
Heh, well, I'm in Calgary right now! Haha
My ticklist is the following:
- Australia
- New Zealand
- France
- return to Canada
Now, my travelling list, on the other hand...
- USA
- Costa Rica
- Peru
- Chile
- Africa
- England
- France
- Greece
- Spain
- Itlay
- Thailand
- Australia
- New Zealand
- Cook Islands (again :D )
- Hawaii
Yeeeeesh...that's big!
I want to spend some time on a remote very undeveloped island too! Preferably in the South Pacific...but hey
8)
|
|
|
|
|
maculated
Aug 15, 2003, 4:14 PM
Post #13 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 23, 2001
Posts: 6179
|
I used to dream about living wonderful places. I still think I need to pick up and explore once in a while, but I have two other great passions: dogs and good friendships. Moving around isn't conducive to extremely intimate relationships, and taking a dog everywhere would be horrible.
When my dog died I pondered going abroad, really living in wonderful places, but I love dogs too much to stop having one.
Right now I aim for some time in Canada. Calgary, specifically.
|
|
|
|
|
winter
Aug 15, 2003, 4:49 PM
Post #14 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Apr 9, 2003
Posts: 2961
|
Really, you want to live in Calgary?? It really is the coolest place, last night as we drove home from climbing we just went over how lucky we are to live here. Ahh, :contented sigh:
|
|
|
|
|
jt512
Aug 15, 2003, 5:14 PM
Post #15 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Apr 12, 2001
Posts: 21904
|
In reply to: Right now I aim for some time in Canada. Calgary, specifically.
Calgary? :?
My vote is Portugal, and if I weren't a climber, Uruguay.
-Jay
|
|
|
|
|
the_pirate
Aug 15, 2003, 5:24 PM
Post #16 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: May 20, 2003
Posts: 3984
|
In reply to: When my dog died I pondered going abroad, really living in wonderful places, but I love dogs too much to stop having one.
Girl after my own heart.
|
|
|
|
|
maculated
Aug 15, 2003, 5:28 PM
Post #17 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 23, 2001
Posts: 6179
|
Calgary. Living in Canada is a pretty good little deal for me. One of my best friends is moving back there (her student visa has run out), and it isn't too far off from the kind of life I have here. Plus, no dog hassle. Portugal and Uruguay (I know I am not spelling that right . . .) don't have a plethora of Australian Shepherds running around. :)
|
|
|
|
|
atg200
Aug 15, 2003, 11:00 PM
Post #18 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jul 27, 2001
Posts: 4317
|
first tip if you want to move to chile or argentina - don't refer to them as chile/argentina. argentina and the rest of south america don't seem to get along too well. if you want to live in a 'stan, i would look at either kazakhstan(almaty) or kirghizistan(bishkek). tashkent in uzbekistan is pleasant enough but extremely hot and the government is quite oppressive - you are very unlikely to be able to live there unless you happen to work for an american company doing a joint venture with the uzbek government.
i guess i like knowing the USA is here, but i am happier when I am not in it. i prefer to stay completely transient and not really be based anywhere, but if i have to my choices are:
1. chile(santiago area, maybe vina del mar)
2. australia(just about anywhere)
3. argentina(mendoza)
4. czech(prague)
5. indonesia(lumbok)
6. new zealand(just about anywhere)
7. colombia(bogota or cartagena)
8. south africa(cape town)
i'll live just about anywhere for a year. currently i am awaiting word about whether or not i am moving to siberia for 6 months. fingers crossed.
|
|
|
|
|
rrrADAM
Aug 15, 2003, 11:04 PM
Post #19 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 19, 1999
Posts: 17553
|
New Zealand
|
|
|
|
|
passthepitonspete
Aug 15, 2003, 11:05 PM
Post #20 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 10, 2001
Posts: 2183
|
Wow! Andrew is well-travelled! Wish I were.....
Say what you want, but it's hard to beat the Great White North and Merrica - I am priveleged to be a citizen of them both.
The United Nations has consistently picked Canada as one of the top, if not THE top, countries in the world in which to live. I believe their criteria is based on health care, education and standard of living.
Yeah, we're having our problems - especially in education and health care. Isn't everyone? And we sure as hell pay a lot more tax than the Merricans.
But the Great White North is a pretty swell place, all other things being equal. You don't have to worry about people hurting you, crime is against the law....
"How do you get a hundred Canadians out of the swimming pool on a swelteringly hot day in August?"
"Excuse me, everyone? Would everyone please get out of the pool?"
|
|
|
|
|
atg200
Aug 15, 2003, 11:15 PM
Post #21 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jul 27, 2001
Posts: 4317
|
in some ways, i think the usa has one of the worst standards of living for any developed country. we all work too damn much(except those of us posting here all the time i guess - we just pretend to work too much). i have found canada to be slightly less stressful to work in than the us, but not by much.
i love working in south america, africa, and asia. 4-6 weeks of vacation standard is a requirement as far as i am concerned - what is the point of having wealth if you never have time to use it? in my favorite places people work hard when they have to, but do a much better job of kicking back when they don't. the lifestyle is so much more laid back and geared towards living instead of working. when i compare going out to dinner in denver(get in, get out, fast) vs dinner in mendoza argentina(come in, have a drink, eat an appetizer, have some wine, eat dinner, have some more wine, sit back and tell stories for awhile) i get ready to book a ticket and head south again.
|
|
|
|
|
diarmid
Aug 16, 2003, 1:59 AM
Post #22 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 27, 2001
Posts: 1073
|
Have gone:
43 of 50 states (minus MT, ID, ND, SD, WA, WI, MI)
England
Scotland
Wales
Italy
Sicily
France
Austria
On the List:
Moravia
Bhutan
Nepal
India
China
New Zealand
Japan
Morocco
Aussie-land
Tazmania
Ireland
Greece
Thailand
Cheaptickets.com rules!
|
|
|
|
|
atg200
Aug 16, 2003, 2:08 AM
Post #23 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jul 27, 2001
Posts: 4317
|
have you lived in all those places, or just visited?
|
|
|
|
|
diarmid
Aug 16, 2003, 2:38 AM
Post #24 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 27, 2001
Posts: 1073
|
Lived in most. Sicily I was only there for a week, but lived in France for roughly a month (Font), Italy for a good while, England for 2 yrs (and by proxy Wales and Scotland) - Most of my time in the US was NY, AK, CA, IL, and FL. The rest were mostly run throughs (weeks or few days)
|
|
|
|
|
beyond_gravity
Aug 16, 2003, 2:55 AM
Post #25 of 32
(801 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jan 2, 2002
Posts: 5078
|
If you like rock climbing and fresh fruit...Calgary isn't so great.
If you like Alpine/Ice climbing, skiing, hiking, and beef...Calgary is awesome
|
|
|
|
|
calamity_chk
Aug 16, 2003, 3:20 AM
Post #26 of 32
(338 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Apr 23, 2002
Posts: 7994
|
In reply to: first tip if you want to move to chile or argentina - don't refer to them as chile/argentina. argentina and the rest of south america don't seem to get along too well.
touche. point well taken. honestly, i'll probably shoot for chile first .. mtns and ocean .. what more could a girl ask for ...
In reply to: if you want to live in a 'stan, i would look at either kazakhstan(almaty) or kirghizistan(bishkek). tashkent in uzbekistan is pleasant enough but extremely hot and the government is quite oppressive - you are very unlikely to be able to live there unless you happen to work for an american company doing a joint venture with the uzbek government.
i'll look into them, but if i head to uzbek, it will probably be for social theory/grad studies. the allure for pakistan is that i already know people there so socializing would be slightly easier. well, as easy as it gets for a strong-willed blonde american girl. ;) .. but, in the end, i think it would be a good experience for me.
|
|
|
|
|
philbox
Moderator
Aug 18, 2003, 6:49 AM
Post #28 of 32
(338 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jun 27, 2002
Posts: 13105
|
Excuse me for being parochial but I need to say that I reckon I live in the best damn spot on Earth. Close to lush tropical rainforests, great surf beaches with warm balmy water, awesome cliffs to explore and put up new routes on, no crowds at the crags even the popular ones. Fishing that is par excellence.
I guess the one downer is that everything is just so far away from everything else. I dunno about living somewhere that you would actually have to rug up for, ugghh, snow sounds sooo, well, cold. We get some cool winds through here sometimes and I tell ya having to put warm coats on is a drag. Still it only last a couple of months per year and when the cool weather does come along it is dry and the friction at the crags is just superb. At least it doesn`t usually rain and the sky is just breathtakingly blue so I can`t complain too much eh.
The great white north, nah, gimme lush green tropical rainforest any day.
|
|
|
|
|
kcrag
Aug 18, 2003, 11:54 AM
Post #29 of 32
(338 views)
Shortcut
Registered: May 27, 2002
Posts: 599
|
i've travelled a lot and i'd have to say i'm pretty darn content with where i am now (colorado). there is a lifetime of alpine climbs to explore in my own backyard.
however, once the pooch goes to dog heaven, i'd consider doing a stint anywhere south of the border (near the BIG hills).
|
|
|
|
|
maculated
Aug 18, 2003, 5:50 PM
Post #30 of 32
(338 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 23, 2001
Posts: 6179
|
In reply to: If you like rock climbing and fresh fruit...Calgary isn't so great.
Oh crap. The fruit might be the deal breaker. I love a the fruit!
|
|
|
|
|
jt512
Aug 18, 2003, 5:54 PM
Post #31 of 32
(338 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Apr 12, 2001
Posts: 21904
|
In reply to: In reply to: If you like rock climbing and fresh fruit...Calgary isn't so great. Oh crap. The fruit might be the deal breaker. I love a the fruit!
And what's with the months on end of freezing cold?
Plus there's only so much politeness an American can take.
-Jay
|
|
|
|
|
why73
Aug 19, 2003, 1:30 AM
Post #32 of 32
(338 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Aug 7, 2002
Posts: 55
|
Oz....really is the only choice for myself..
|
|
|
|
|
|
