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beyond_gravity
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So, I went to the Gunks last weekend, and I have to say, it is possibly one of the most over-hyped crags in existence.
First off, everyone rants and raves about how hard the grades are. I've fully concluded that they are full of shit. What's the deal? If anything, the ratings here are soft compared to the adirondacks and Quebec. The only place I might be in disagreement here is on the 5.5's, which seem to consistantly feel like 5.6. But 5.7, 8, and 9 were all right on the mark. Do the locals here seem to get some kind of ego kick by raving about how sandbagged (oh sorry, I mean "old school") the ratings are?
Second, I think it's the first outdoor gym I have been too. First off, who the hell wants to pay $15 to go climbing for the day? This whole concept is ridiculous! The only thing the trapps need are permanently setup top ropes to become a real gym. What next, are you going to have to take a belay test before they let you into the park? ditch this shit.
Third, why do I have to pay a toll to drive on every road south of Albany?
Fourth, the gunks seem to be home of the the most annoying people in America. Seriously, how many times do people have to yell "SECURE!!"? Okay, maybe if it's your first time in the area, you might not realize that communication may be difficult from the top of the climbs. However, and quickly figuring this out, can't people derive a tug system with the rope? Every other climber in the world seems to understand this concept. Maybe they're too busy talking about how sandbagged their routes are...
Fifth, the Mohonk preserve seems to be home of the grossest bugs in existance. Seriously, what's with all those damn worm things and spiders?
Last, why the hell is everyone popping a boner for thier tricams in the gunks? Have these people never seen a TCU? besides, pro isn't exactly scarce. Yes, there are places that take perfect tricams, but guess what, right beside it is a bomb nut placement. Good job, tri-babies.
The only positive thing I have to say about the gunks is that upon topping out on a near trapps routes, you are pleasently greeted by blueberries. However, they're small....so this isn't really a pro.
Seriously, why would anyone want to climb here? I want my $3.10 toll back....
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You didn't have fun? That's a pity....
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climbsomething
Jul 13, 2008, 12:44 AM
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Predictions for this thread:
-posts of "fine, stay away, more for me" (or variations thereof)
-posts of "you must have gotten tooled, that's why you're so bitter" (or variations thereof)
-T ratings
-posts about making popcorn
-bumbly locals/regulars waxing philosophic about the area's radness, which B_G just isn't enlightened enough to "get"
-disparaging remarks about Canada and Canadians
-ratings spray
-grammarians working themselves into a lather over the OP's imperfections
In that order.
I don't have a dog in this fight. I've never been to the Gunks. But I've got a lifetime pass to the RC.com Preserve 
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Jul 13, 2008, 1:28 AM
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climbsomething wrote: Predictions for this thread: -posts of "fine, stay away, more for me" (or variations thereof)
Oh yah, tricam and TCU- not the same beast, Cannuk ;)
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Jul 13, 2008, 1:29 AM
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beyond_gravity wrote: So, I went to the Gunks last weekend, and I have to say, it is possibly one of the most over-hyped crags in existence. First off, everyone rants and raves about how hard the grades are. I've fully concluded that they are full of shit. What's the deal? If anything, the ratings here are soft compared to the adirondacks and Quebec. The only place I might be in disagreement here is on the 5.5's, which seem to consistantly feel like 5.6. But 5.7, 8, and 9 were all right on the mark. Do the locals here seem to get some kind of ego kick by raving about how sandbagged (oh sorry, I mean "old school") the ratings are? Second, I think it's the first outdoor gym I have been too. First off, who the hell wants to pay $15 to go climbing for the day? This whole concept is ridiculous! The only thing the trapps need are permanently setup top ropes to become a real gym. What next, are you going to have to take a belay test before they let you into the park? ditch this shit. Third, why do I have to pay a toll to drive on every road south of Albany? Fourth, the gunks seem to be home of the the most annoying people in America. Seriously, how many times do people have to yell "SECURE!!"? Okay, maybe if it's your first time in the area, you might not realize that communication may be difficult from the top of the climbs. However, and quickly figuring this out, can't people derive a tug system with the rope? Every other climber in the world seems to understand this concept. Maybe they're too busy talking about how sandbagged their routes are... Fifth, the Mohonk preserve seems to be home of the grossest bugs in existance. Seriously, what's with all those damn worm things and spiders? Last, why the hell is everyone popping a boner for thier tricams in the gunks? Have these people never seen a TCU? besides, pro isn't exactly scarce. Yes, there are places that take perfect tricams, but guess what, right beside it is a bomb nut placement. Good job, tri-babies. The only positive thing I have to say about the gunks is that upon topping out on a near trapps routes, you are pleasently greeted by blueberries. However, they're small....so this isn't really a pro. Seriously, why would anyone want to climb here? I want my $3.10 toll back....
Ooooo, this one needs some posterity...
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Jul 13, 2008, 1:37 AM
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And actually, with the exception of the tricam comment and an under appreciation for the stellar quality of the climbing (gear protected face routes with tiered roof systems...need I say more), hes spot on.
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Jul 13, 2008, 1:52 AM
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climbsomething wrote: Predictions for this thread: -posts of "fine, stay away, more for me" (or variations thereof) -posts of "you must have gotten tooled, that's why you're so bitter" (or variations thereof) -T ratings -posts about making popcorn -bumbly locals/regulars waxing philosophic about the area's radness, which B_G just isn't enlightened enough to "get" -disparaging remarks about Canada and Canadians -ratings spray -grammarians working themselves into a lather over the OP's imperfections In that order. I don't have a dog in this fight. I've never been to the Gunks. But I've got a lifetime pass to the RC.com Preserve
This is correct, but the order might vary.
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Jul 13, 2008, 1:54 AM
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beyond_gravity wrote: Seriously, why would anyone want to climb here? I want my $3.10 toll back....
Indeed, thanks so much for posting this. Everyone...don't come to the gunks.
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climbsomething
Jul 13, 2008, 2:06 AM
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gblauer wrote: beyond_gravity wrote: Seriously, why would anyone want to climb here? I want my $3.10 toll back.... Indeed, thanks so much for posting this. Everyone...don't come to the gunks.
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Jul 13, 2008, 2:23 AM
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beyond_gravity wrote: So, I went to the Gunks last weekend, and I have to say, it is possibly one of the most over-hyped crags in existence. First off, everyone rants and raves about how hard the grades are. I've fully concluded that they are full of shit. What's the deal? If anything, the ratings here are soft compared to the adirondacks and Quebec. The only place I might be in disagreement here is on the 5.5's, which seem to consistantly feel like 5.6. But 5.7, 8, and 9 were all right on the mark. Do the locals here seem to get some kind of ego kick by raving about how sandbagged (oh sorry, I mean "old school") the ratings are? Second, I think it's the first outdoor gym I have been too. First off, who the hell wants to pay $15 to go climbing for the day? This whole concept is ridiculous! The only thing the trapps need are permanently setup top ropes to become a real gym. What next, are you going to have to take a belay test before they let you into the park? ditch this shit. Third, why do I have to pay a toll to drive on every road south of Albany? Fourth, the gunks seem to be home of the the most annoying people in America. Seriously, how many times do people have to yell "SECURE!!"? Okay, maybe if it's your first time in the area, you might not realize that communication may be difficult from the top of the climbs. However, and quickly figuring this out, can't people derive a tug system with the rope? Every other climber in the world seems to understand this concept. Maybe they're too busy talking about how sandbagged their routes are... Fifth, the Mohonk preserve seems to be home of the grossest bugs in existance. Seriously, what's with all those damn worm things and spiders?
Sounds like there were a few too many frogs there as well. How truly unpleasant.
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Jul 13, 2008, 3:17 AM
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beyond_gravity wrote: So, I went to the Gunks last weekend, and I have to say, it is possibly one of the most over-hyped crags in existence. First off, everyone rants and raves about how hard the grades are. I've fully concluded that they are full of shit. What's the deal? If anything, the ratings here are soft compared to the adirondacks and Quebec. The only place I might be in disagreement here is on the 5.5's, which seem to consistantly feel like 5.6. But 5.7, 8, and 9 were all right on the mark. Do the locals here seem to get some kind of ego kick by raving about how sandbagged (oh sorry, I mean "old school") the ratings are? Second, I think it's the first outdoor gym I have been too. First off, who the hell wants to pay $15 to go climbing for the day? This whole concept is ridiculous! The only thing the trapps need are permanently setup top ropes to become a real gym. What next, are you going to have to take a belay test before they let you into the park? ditch this shit. Third, why do I have to pay a toll to drive on every road south of Albany? Fourth, the gunks seem to be home of the the most annoying people in America. Seriously, how many times do people have to yell "SECURE!!"? Okay, maybe if it's your first time in the area, you might not realize that communication may be difficult from the top of the climbs. However, and quickly figuring this out, can't people derive a tug system with the rope? Every other climber in the world seems to understand this concept. Maybe they're too busy talking about how sandbagged their routes are... Fifth, the Mohonk preserve seems to be home of the grossest bugs in existance. Seriously, what's with all those damn worm things and spiders? Last, why the hell is everyone popping a boner for thier tricams in the gunks? Have these people never seen a TCU? besides, pro isn't exactly scarce. Yes, there are places that take perfect tricams, but guess what, right beside it is a bomb nut placement. Good job, tri-babies. The only positive thing I have to say about the gunks is that upon topping out on a near trapps routes, you are pleasently greeted by blueberries. However, they're small....so this isn't really a pro. Seriously, why would anyone want to climb here? I want my $3.10 toll back....
15? WOW yosemite is 20. although a year pass is like 40 or something haha. sounds like the gunks suck. good thing I love the west coast
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Jul 13, 2008, 4:14 AM
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WTF?! 15 dollars to climb for the day?! THAT'S RIDICULOUS!
I gotta agree with you on that one.
However, I can't possibly agree with this:
In reply to: Fifth, the Mohonk preserve seems to be home of the grossest bugs in existance. Seriously, what's with all those damn worm things and spiders?
BOO HOO! what were you expecting? a giant bug screen? maybe some a/c would help too eh? If you can't deal with bugs then why not stay the hell inside your cozy house where it's safe?
All the other things I don't care, I've never been to the gunks (yet!), so I really can't say anything.
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Jul 13, 2008, 9:24 AM
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lithiummetalman wrote: You didn't have fun? That's a pity....
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Jul 13, 2008, 9:25 AM
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sky7high wrote: WTF?! 15 dollars to climb for the day?! THAT'S RIDICULOUS! I gotta agree with you on that one. However, I can't possibly agree with this: In reply to: Fifth, the Mohonk preserve seems to be home of the grossest bugs in existance. Seriously, what's with all those damn worm things and spiders? BOO HOO! what were you expecting? a giant bug screen?
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Jul 13, 2008, 9:26 AM
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climbsomething wrote: Predictions for this thread: -posts of "fine, stay away, more for me" (or variations thereof) -posts of "you must have gotten tooled, that's why you're so bitter" (or variations thereof) -T ratings -posts about making popcorn -bumbly locals/regulars waxing philosophic about the area's radness, which B_G just isn't enlightened enough to "get" -disparaging remarks about Canada and Canadians -ratings spray -grammarians working themselves into a lather over the OP's imperfections In that order. I don't have a dog in this fight. I've never been to the Gunks. But I've got a lifetime pass to the RC.com Preserve
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charley
Jul 13, 2008, 1:22 PM
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jimo wrote: climbsomething wrote: Predictions for this thread: -posts of "fine, stay away, more for me" (or variations thereof) Here's my variation: Stay away you goofy Canadian bastard! Keep your Frenchie talk and pasty skin north of the border, who needs to see your queer pink ropes strewn about our rad rock!... whatever. Oh yah, tricam and TCU- not the same beast, Cannuk ;)
Why do you have to harp on a persons nationality?
There is nothing wrong with being canadian, or speaking french or for that matter, a pink rope. I can not say the same for someone who dis' a persons nationality. We are what we are. If you don't agree just say so.
There are things I don't like about the gunks too.
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Jul 13, 2008, 2:35 PM
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beyond_gravity wrote: So, I went to the Gunks last weekend, and I have to say, it is possibly one of the most over-hyped crags in existence. First off, everyone rants and raves about how hard the grades are. I've fully concluded that they are full of shit. What's the deal? If anything, the ratings here are soft compared to the adirondacks and Quebec. The only place I might be in disagreement here is on the 5.5's, which seem to consistantly feel like 5.6. But 5.7, 8, and 9 were all right on the mark. Do the locals here seem to get some kind of ego kick by raving about how sandbagged (oh sorry, I mean "old school") the ratings are? Second, I think it's the first outdoor gym I have been too. First off, who the hell wants to pay $15 to go climbing for the day? This whole concept is ridiculous! The only thing the trapps need are permanently setup top ropes to become a real gym. What next, are you going to have to take a belay test before they let you into the park? ditch this shit. Third, why do I have to pay a toll to drive on every road south of Albany? Fourth, the gunks seem to be home of the the most annoying people in America. Seriously, how many times do people have to yell "SECURE!!"? Okay, maybe if it's your first time in the area, you might not realize that communication may be difficult from the top of the climbs. However, and quickly figuring this out, can't people derive a tug system with the rope? Every other climber in the world seems to understand this concept. Maybe they're too busy talking about how sandbagged their routes are... Fifth, the Mohonk preserve seems to be home of the grossest bugs in existance. Seriously, what's with all those damn worm things and spiders? Last, why the hell is everyone popping a boner for thier tricams in the gunks? Have these people never seen a TCU? besides, pro isn't exactly scarce. Yes, there are places that take perfect tricams, but guess what, right beside it is a bomb nut placement. Good job, tri-babies. The only positive thing I have to say about the gunks is that upon topping out on a near trapps routes, you are pleasently greeted by blueberries. However, they're small....so this isn't really a pro. Seriously, why would anyone want to climb here? I want my $3.10 toll back....
best post EVAR!
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the reason for the enterance fee is to cover the cost of upkeep of the property ...its considered private property and is in a trust...that fee pays for the rangers who are involved in the rescue of whoever needs it....as for you not liking it stay in canada or goto the daks since they seem to be your spot....ive been to placs that other ppl rant and rave about and thought they totally sucked balls...first place that come to mind for me is indian creek....as for the tri cam there are some routes that they are the only things you can get into places at times....maybe you should have hiked farther down the trapps into sleepy hollow or some other places besides the uberfalls area....hell across the road you have the near trapps thats a lot less crowded....and farter out is millbrook that sees at most 100 climbers a year.......other than that you can stay at lions head or some other places you like far more
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charley wrote: Why do you have to harp on a persons nationality? There is nothing wrong with being canadian, or speaking french or for that matter, a pink rope. I can not say the same for someone who dis' a persons nationality. We are what we are. If you don't agree just say so.
You're just sensitive because you're Vietnamese.
That also explains your poor English skills.
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the_leech wrote: charley wrote: Why do you have to harp on a persons nationality? There is nothing wrong with being canadian, or speaking french or for that matter, a pink rope. I can not say the same for someone who dis' a persons nationality. We are what we are. If you don't agree just say so. You're just sensitive because you're Vietnamese. That also explains your poor English skills.
Spot on
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the_leech wrote: charley wrote: Why do you have to harp on a persons nationality? There is nothing wrong with being canadian, or speaking french or for that matter, a pink rope. I can not say the same for someone who dis' a persons nationality. We are what we are. If you don't agree just say so. You're just sensitive because you're Vietnamese. That also explains your poor English skills.
You better watch it with the VC. He's a worthy fucking adversary.
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zeke_sf wrote: the_leech wrote: charley wrote: Why do you have to harp on a persons nationality? There is nothing wrong with being canadian, or speaking french or for that matter, a pink rope. I can not say the same for someone who dis' a persons nationality. We are what we are. If you don't agree just say so. You're just sensitive because you're Vietnamese. That also explains your poor English skills. You better watch it with the VC. He's a worthy fucking adversary.
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By the way the gunks is $15 a day OR $75 for a year, you can get that down to $56 is you live in a student household and get the passes together. So the pass makes sense if you go for 2 weekends. But yeah, insert offensive canadian slur here:
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jrathfon wrote: By the way the gunks is $15 a day OR $75 for a year, you can get that down to $56 is you live in a student household and get the passes together. So the pass makes sense if you go for 2 weekends. But yeah, insert offensive canadian slur here: Damn beaver-beating 51st staters! Those eh-hole seal fuckers have no idea how awesome the Gunks are! I suggest those puckheads go suck a moose. |
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Try the bouldering next time.
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