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caughtinside
Mar 30, 2005, 1:31 AM
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Yes, 48" runners are nice. I don't often use them on routes, but they are great for slinging trees and using for anchors. I don't use 12" runners, you can just double a 24" one.
Also, I prefer to girth hitch tree limbs, as opposed to looping around, as you have done. That way, there's only one part of the sling through the biner, pulling one direction.
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illimaniman
Mar 30, 2005, 1:34 AM
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Without the overhand knot your anchor is not redundant and violates the "no extension" rule. If any piece of protection blows, you'll shock load the system. If any strand of the cord is cut, the whole thing will come undone. Just so there's no misunderstanding: ALWAYS TIE AN OVERHAND (OR FIGURE 8 IF YOU'RE SO INCLINED) IN YOUR CORDALETTE ANCHOR
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enjoimx
Mar 30, 2005, 1:34 AM
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That tree anchor is not redundant. If any one of those strands fails, the whole anchor fails. If you dont believe me, weight the anchor and cut one strand with scissors. The lesson might be worth the 8 buck cordolette.
A figure eight or overhand makes it redundant.
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bmxer
Mar 30, 2005, 1:46 AM
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OK THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME ABOUT THE OVERHAND KNOT. Let me requote myself. "lol actually I did after I took the pictures"
Like I said, it's not hard to tie an overhand knot and I did. Then I untied it. Not a big deal.
CAN SOMEONE ACTUALLY HELP, WHERE I ASKED FOR HELP.
w/ exception to caughtinside who did answer my runners question. However I read in a book that a girth hitch is not such a wise choice because it puts strain on the part that's being cinched and reduces the strength of the runner.
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chemicalclimber
Mar 30, 2005, 3:38 AM
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you could go buy some webbing and learn to (correctly) tie the water knot. Then you can sling things that are too big to girth hitch, or you can use the "wrap three pull two" method of tying around objects.
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bmxer
Mar 30, 2005, 4:45 AM
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T5.9
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chemicalclimber
Mar 30, 2005, 5:09 AM
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Am I being insulted or am I being thanked for taking the role of Captain Obvious?
In case its the former- no one had pointed it out, and the OP, obviously a newb (said so himself), might not have though of it. So bite me.
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bmxer
Mar 30, 2005, 6:20 AM
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I wouldn't mind having a couple of 48 inch runners, but I do have 30 feet of webbing, I just don't want to cut it yet.
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kman
Mar 30, 2005, 7:29 AM
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If you were actually using the tree as a real anchor and not for practice you would want your anchor to be around the entire base of the tree.
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bear829
Mar 30, 2005, 4:11 PM
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In reply to: Am I being insulted or am I being thanked for taking the role of Captain Obvious? In case its the former- no one had pointed it out, and the OP, obviously a newb (said so himself), might not have though of it. So bite me.
Well, I am Captain Obvious and that means that there can't be two of us....so you do the math. But if you need help, I think it was an insult. :lol:
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chemicalclimber
Mar 31, 2005, 9:11 AM
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okay, I'll be captain oblivious. :(
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jimdavis
Apr 1, 2005, 7:15 AM
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In reply to: Without the overhand knot your anchor is not redundant and violates the "no extension" rule. If any piece of protection blows, you'll shock load the system. If any strand of the cord is cut, the whole thing will come undone. Just so there's no misunderstanding: ALWAYS TIE AN OVERHAND (OR FIGURE 8 IF YOU'RE SO INCLINED) IN YOUR CORDALETTE ANCHOR
Be careful using the word always, and the word never. There is a time and a place for everything.
Yes, usually you want to pre-equalize...usually, not always.
And "use a overhand or a fig 8"... or a figure 9, or 15, or 21, ect. You can do that to take up length and shorten up the master point.
Jim
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