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awilson86
Sep 7, 2006, 3:40 PM
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i tried several harnesses when i was looking at them. i checked out the misty mountain cirque and was pretty impressed. really comfortable. when i went to the climbing gym to check out other harnesses and tried on the BD momentum AL, misty mountain arete and the metolius safetech. i was pretty suprised in the comfort of the BD. there was alot of preasure on my legs to the point of pain just hanging. put on the arete and coulnt get passed the nonadjustable legloops even though it is pretty much the same ast the cirque. then i tried on the safetech. its amazing. really comfortable and since you can adjust the rise, it fits perfectly (as perfect as it gets, im slightly betweens sizes..) took abit to adjust the rise and im still fine tuning but i love it. it lists for like 80 bucks but i got it on sale for 50% off. picked up the safetech and a pair of madrock phoenixs for 114 bucks. i definatly recommend the safetech. especially since every piece on it is REALLY strong. the rear haul loop is rated at like 16kn and the gear loops are rated at like 10kn. really good when trying to reasure parents that you are taking all the proper percautions. but its also gives me peice of mind that my harness is really strong.
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phase_nine
Sep 7, 2006, 4:34 PM
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I find it extremely hard to believe that a company, such as Petzl, a leading gear manufacturer, would use something like single pass buckles without it being totally safe. Petzl even calls their "single pass" buckles, DoubleBacks. Any more thoughts on these, and why they are unsafe? Thanks!
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boredwolf
Sep 7, 2006, 5:48 PM
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In reply to: I find it extremely hard to believe that a company, such as Petzl, a leading gear manufacturer, would use something like single pass buckles without it being totally safe.
...That being the gist of almost every single disclaimer on every single piece of climbing equipment sold. Single-Pass buckles may cinch-down when they're weighted, but they are relatively easy to tighten/loosen when they are unweighted. Therein lies the danger. Maybe if they didn't have some big-a$$ed buckle that looks like it was stolen from Batman's harness, it wouldn't be an issue, but I have witnessed the dangers first-hand. No piece of climbing equipment is safe, and certainly not idiot-proof. The safety aspect of any climbing gear is knowing the appropriate usage, and understanding the possible dangers associated with each.
I trust Petzl about as much as I trust Microsoft, because they are both companies wanting you to buy their "superior" product. Whatever you're willing to trust your life with is safe enough for you, but it might not be safe enough for the next guy.
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dark_zer0
Sep 7, 2006, 9:21 PM
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In reply to: I find it extremely hard to believe that a company, such as Petzl, a leading gear manufacturer, would use something like single pass buckles without it being totally safe. Petzl even calls their "single pass" buckles, DoubleBacks. Any more thoughts on these, and why they are unsafe? Thanks!
G'day mate,
Nothing much to say but ya, as I said above, I agree that the Singlepass or as some people call it "SpeedBuckle" is not that safe. People should just take the time to pass the buckle through 2 or three loops.
Just to add a funny comment, well heres my thought:
Everytime I watch the beggining of the movie Cliffhanger, the harness that broke reminds me of a Petzl harness witha speedbuckle.
Cheers,
Zer0
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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jimfix
Sep 7, 2006, 9:46 PM
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Umm I think allot of you haven't read the OP. The cady is a great harness (I love mine), but the guy wanted a light weight harness.
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dark_zer0
Sep 7, 2006, 9:58 PM
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In reply to: Umm I think allot of you haven't read the OP. The cady is a great harness (I love mine), but the guy wanted a light weight harness.
The momentum is a pretty ligthweight harness given it has a alot of cushion. It might weigh more than others but for gym climbs its cool. If he wants a lightwieght one i would reccomend the Alpine Bod. But it doesnt have alot of cushion and a friend told me it really hurts after a while. But he said hes a begginer and i think a comfortable one really matters when you start out.
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jacobg
Sep 7, 2006, 11:28 PM
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i bought a new wild country helix adjustable harness last week and it is a great harness for 60$
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trapdoor
Sep 8, 2006, 12:45 AM
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Personally i think petzl harnesses are over rated . My next one is gonna be a metolius supersafe. Plenty of comfort for ,everything except bigwall 8hr hanging belays, and really safe to boot. It's nice to know everything on it is full strength.
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wvsupernoob
Sep 19, 2006, 4:54 PM
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In reply to: Umm I think allot of you haven't read the OP. The cady is a great harness (I love mine), but the guy wanted a light weight harness.
Here's the lightest harness ever: :wink:
http://scs.student.virginia.edu/~brmrg/knots/seat.html
Make it tighter than the pictures show, and tie in the same place the 'biner is shown. It's ultra-light, fer sure! And if you intend to use it again, leave the leg-loops tied.
Not too comfy to hang on low down, but it gets progressively more comfy the higher you climb -- 20 feet, and I don't even notice - 70 feet , and the biting straps feel like a mamma's gentle caress, it's like magic. :D
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gym_wench
Sep 29, 2006, 9:00 PM
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I have two words for you: Arc'teryx Vapor. It's lightweight and extremely comfortable; the heaviest thing on it is the price tag ($100). Believe me. It's worth every penny.
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gym_wench
Sep 29, 2006, 9:01 PM
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Double post. Ooops!
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