My point is that LC seems to be constantly lurking - lord knows how she has the time - and immediately dives in with an extremely predictable response. One might initially think that she is some sort of heroine fighting for truth justice and all that jazz. But to me she seems so happy to apply her stereotypical buckets (ironically something she complains about) without actually putting any thought into it that at best she comes across as a sort of Don Quixote and more likely the boy who cried wolf Her values and believes are worthy but the way she goes about defending them is silly. And the time she spends doing it in a place like this makes me seriously wonder.

In the context of the OP... only women?

I was wondering how long it would take for the LC knee jerk response to appear. A little over 30 minutes - she's still got it.

In the context of the OP... only women?

... no one - well very few - will argue that the original comment was appropriate

Majid's comment was inappropriate.

Saying nothing when such inappropriate comments are made is giving tacit approval to them. (He said that... but nobody said anything... I guess it is ok.) Therefor it si both appropriate, and needed, that people saying such inappropriate things be called on them. It can be difficult to do, and can result in being attacked yourself -- especially online. But it is correct and needed. lena_chita was quite correct to do this, and did it in a quite appropriate way.

In the context of the OP... only women?

Talk about hijacking a thread!

Majid, once again, proves himself to be the undisputed king of trolls.

you RCers can't even discuss a simple matter here without jumping on each others and I wonder how are you going to help OP ?

For every 10 male climbers who summit an 8000 meter peak, may be 1-2 women do the same. that is a fact and if you do not believe me, visit base camps to see it yourself.

For every 10 male climbers who summit an 8000 meter peak, may be 1-2 women do the same. that is a fact and if you do not believe me, visit base camps to see it yourself.

Why wouldn't we believe you?

According to any number of studies that attempted to estimate this, women make up about 20% of climbers. Which would match your numbers pretty well.

And your point is?

Heh, I'd not seen those pics before, Curt! I think Olderic was talking about an incident prior to the time that I sent the route, although I did not leave gear overnight, and certainly did not "whine about the results." The only results were that the internets got butthurt at me.

A local climbing club has 108 members with 21 folks rated as club "Leaders". They do a mix of single-pitch and multi-pitch climbing.

~37% overall are women
~24% of those with a "Leader" rating are women

Doesn't strike me as obviously discriminatory but some may disagree.

I'm no longer part of the group. But back when I was, for multi-pitch, the hardest thing for women was in finding either like-minded female partners or male partners whose spouse's were okay with husband spending all day outside with another woman.

or single male partners who weren't going to hit on her all day long.

or single male partners who weren't going to hit on her all day long.

A local climbing club has 108 members with 21 folks rated as club "Leaders". They do a mix of single-pitch and multi-pitch climbing.

~37% overall are women
~24% of those with a "Leader" rating are women

Doesn't strike me as obviously discriminatory but some may disagree.

It is not "discriminatory", unless the club had a policy, either official or unofficial, to make it harder for women to join, or to become a " leader".

But obviously, with percentage of females in the US being somewhere ~ 50.6%, the women are under-represented in this club of yours, as well as in climbing community in general.