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rrrADAM
Aug 29, 2003, 1:39 AM
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Deleted original text as it was incindiary, and I do not need to add fuel to the fires of controversy around here.
My bad. :(
~Adam
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pehperboy
Aug 29, 2003, 2:11 AM
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I see PTPP hasn't replied. He may be pondering how Wee Wee will keep a straight face (if he's even allowed!) in his next passport photo. The brain trust that oversees the snowy Canadian hillside has deemed all residents of the GWN must be in possession of blank, moron-like expressions for passport photos.
Anyhow back to the thread at hand, I suspect PTPP has figured this one out: :troll:
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socalclimber
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curt
Aug 29, 2003, 3:01 AM
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In reply to: I was aiding on a route that was overhanging and a small roof was slowly approaching me from above, the roof reached me with great dislike as I soon was to find out...
If EVER a small roof is approaching me (instead of vice versa) I know I have a BIG problem. Bigger than the one posed here.....
Curt
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emtclimber
Aug 29, 2003, 3:28 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: I was aiding on a route that was overhanging and a small roof was slowly approaching me from above, the roof reached me with great dislike as I soon was to find out... Well, I am not an aid climber, but I have done thousands of free routes. So, from that persective--let me say this. If EVER a small roof is approaching me (instead of vice versa) I know I have a BIG problem. Bigger than the one posed here..... Curt
That's just too funny :D
Wish I would have been the one to point that out...
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apollodorus
Aug 29, 2003, 5:20 AM
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You could have clipped the nut with a chain of two slings, backed off lower on the hook, then moved out onto the nut slings. After unweighting the hook, it could have been flicked off.
The cleaner would then jug up to the piton, leaving it clipped, and then hit it until it popped and he swung out below the nut. That would prevent having to lower out from it, and leaving it.
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ricardol
Aug 29, 2003, 6:22 AM
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the great thing about this forum is that there is all kinds of climbers ..
great ones .. and gumby ones .. experienced ones and noobs ..
.. climbers who keep quiet about their conquests .. and those who will tell anyone that will listen ..
... so what!! .. i know that pete is totally over the top on his self-coronation of doing things the better way .. so what !!... the only reason why this foum appears to be full of flaming between gawd and pete is because we let it be..
.. those who can't stand pete can always killfile him .. oh -- and also lets be fair to everyone -- there is tons of climbers with lots of experience, and that includes pete .. (he's more than just a drop in the bucket -- and a bit bitchen.. -- i like the picture of him hooking on native son .. ) -- would be cool if the guys with experience around here could get along ..
eeek -- but the again I am just a gumbie, so what do i know... -- carry on with the flaming and the name calling --
-- ricardo
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metoliusmunchkin
Aug 29, 2003, 7:21 AM
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Tom (apollodorus) wrote:
In reply to: You could have clipped the nut with a chain of two slings, backed off lower on the hook, then moved out onto the nut slings. After unweighting the hook, it could have been flicked off. The cleaner would then jug up to the piton, leaving it clipped, and then hit it until it popped and he swung out below the nut. That would prevent having to lower out from it, and leaving it.
Thank you, Tom, for answering the question of the thread, giving input, sharing your knowledge, being a climber, and especially, for not being a whiny-ass loser!
I agree with Ed (up2top) in that Pete should not be considered the only aid climber worthy of adhering to their knowledge. There are, as you say, many other experienced aid climbers; all of which eligible to contribute their information. However, seeing as they do not contribute an equivalent multitude of information, they are overlooked.
Who could not consider Pete bitchin’ whilst all other experienced aid climbers have not so advertently advertized themselves to be as such? With such easy access to all his information, as well as the constant reminder of how bitchin’ he really is, John-Paul’s (deisel_smoke’s) actions are understandable.
Personally, I would be more concerned with a user falsely advertizing their bitchin’-ness. Users should not turn so wholeheartedly to those who do not have the experience. We are concerned that John-Paul is relying so eagerly on Pete’s information? It may exclude other aid climbers of this site to the subjection of John-Paul’s idolatry, but at least we know he will not come to harm in heeding Pete’s advice.
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rrrADAM
Aug 29, 2003, 11:05 AM
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In reply to: Tom ( apollodorus) wrote: In reply to: You could have clipped the nut with a chain of two slings, backed off lower on the hook, then moved out onto the nut slings. After unweighting the hook, it could have been flicked off. The cleaner would then jug up to the piton, leaving it clipped, and then hit it until it popped and he swung out below the nut. That would prevent having to lower out from it, and leaving it. Thank you, Tom, for answering the question of the thread, giving input, sharing your knowledge, being a climber, and especially, for not being a whiny-ass loser! I agree with Ed ( up2top) in that Pete should not be considered the only aid climber worthy of adhering to their knowledge. There are, as you say, many other experienced aid climbers; all of which eligible to contribute their information. However, seeing as they do not contribute an equivalent multitude of information, they are overlooked. Who could not consider Pete bitchin’ whilst all other experienced aid climbers have not so advertently advertized themselves to be as such? With such easy access to all his information, as well as the constant reminder of how bitchin’ he really is, John-Paul’s ( deisel_smoke’s) actions are understandable. Personally, I would be more concerned with a user falsely advertizing their bitchin’-ness. Users should not turn so wholeheartedly to those who do not have the experience. We are concerned that John-Paul is relying so eagerly on Pete’s information? It may exclude other aid climbers of this site to the subjection of John-Paul’s idolatry, but at least we know he will not come to harm in heeding Pete’s advice. ...
"From the mouths of babes." As this from a 15 year old... We could all learn from this.
Good job 'munchie'... Once again your maturity and wisdom are leaps and bounds above that of people 3 times your age, myself included. :wink:
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atg200
Aug 29, 2003, 4:00 PM
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diesel__smoke - i still can't tell if you are a troll or not. on the off chance that you are a real person, 23 grade VI routes is pretty good - but there are people who have done hundreds. there are aid climbers on this site who have done first ascents of multiple grade VI routes, and pete hasn't done any of those. finally, there are aid climbers on this site who have done grade VI routes in places other than just the valley, which again pete has not.
pete is a good aid climber and has a lot of good information to share, but often it is not the best way for anything except his huge grade vii style ascents of yosemite grade vi routes. you are shooting yourself in the foot if you put things the way you do, and if i was still moderating i would have blasted this off to community as a troll for asking a gumbie question in a completely incendiary manner.
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diesel___smoke
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maculated
Aug 29, 2003, 6:06 PM
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Can we just let this thread die? For my sake? Smoke, why don't you just PM Pete?
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atg200
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i still can't really tell if you are a troll or a real person, but if you are for real your system is so bizarre that you should probably just stick to straightforward C1 until you have your system dialed in.
1. use two adjustable daisy chains. you can supplement them with a fifi if you insist, but most of the time you do not need to. you should be able to tension enough on your top diasy to unweight your bottom daisy or fifi, and remove it relatively easily. i have a hard time buying that you can't see or remove your bottom placement when in the bottom of your steps and at the end of your daisy.
2. why in god's name are you using a hammer to clean a hook blindly? if you can't get off your piece without cleaning it, you don't have your basic movement system dialed in.
3. two tugs does not make a bounce test. you need to really wail on the piece to get a decent test, and you can't really do that by pulling with your arms. if the piece is unidirectional, that is even more reason to have your system dialed in such a way that you don't need to sink to madness like swiping at a hook blindly with a hammer.
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atg200
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Oh, and maculated, I respect you deeply so I will hold off on posting to this thread, you're right. It just isn't worth it. You rock!
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bsignorelli
Aug 29, 2003, 10:01 PM
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Does anyone think that maybe diesel___smoke was trying to kill two birds with one stone?
Maybe he was trying to get an honest answer to his question and trying to get a rise out of some of the members of this site.
Even if he wasn't, it appears that he did.
But whats funny about this whole thing is PTPP is getting char-broiled without even being present at the BBQ.
It looks like diesel___smoke has rephrased his question in a more agreeable way and rrradam has retracted his comments (which were thrown in just to spice things up :) ).
Now maybe everyone can be friends (tolerable friends?) and Pete, who has avoided this quagmire and hasn't written a single word, can actually offer his opinion (not really right or wrong...just his view) on the question at hand.
Not that there haven't already been a couple of opinions offered by some people who have way bigger balls than I currently posses :wink:
Eh, Pete? We know you're listening? Got any bold print to offer this fellow?
Bryan
PS - If you're in Arkansas this weekend come on out to Sam's Throne and meet up with a bunch of us for a tradding-good time :)
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passthepitonspete
Aug 30, 2003, 6:28 PM
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Sorry for the delay in answering this, but Helga just won't leave me alone.....
You write,
In reply to: "...clipped my tree and daisy into it."
Just to clarify my thinking, are you climbing on Russian Aiders, and referring to your Aid Tree thingy - the piece of webbing with the rings on it?
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diesel___smoke
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Yes, Russian aiders, and metolius adjustable aiders. The 'tree' I am refering to is the part with the steel rings that you hook into with your leg harnesses.
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drkodos
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**Thread split from "Pete Help!!" topic 11/10 by up2top. This post by Dr. Kodos was the spot where the thread turned another direction**.
In reply to: This is the "Aid Forum." Not the "Stroke Pete's Knob Forum." Ed
Where has this forum been moved to??
and are there any pictures??
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flamer
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Well according to the women on this site Pete has lots of picture's of his knob. And he has no problem sharing them, even if they are unwanted.
Now whether or not there are any photo's of said "Knob" being "stroked"- I'm not sure.....
josh
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In reply to: Well according to the women on this site Pete has lots of picture's of his knob. And he has no problem sharing them, even if they are unwanted. Now whether or not there are any photo's of said "Knob" being "stroked"- I'm not sure..... josh
eewwww... dont say anything that might give him ideas .. ewww, ewww, ewww
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passthepitonspete
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Every now and then, someone steps forward out of the sea of plain vanilla-ness - the likes of which has filled this post to near-overflowing - and catches my attention. It's a quality I can't fully define, but it sets this person apart from the rest in my way of thinking.
Tom was one of these people - even though he hadn't climbed for eighteen years, something told me that he had what it takes to climb big walls. So I acted on me 'unch, and we climbed El Cap together. Three times now. It was a good decision. I look forward to climbing with Tom again.
I wish to assure the wondering [and] masses that John-Paul [aka] is indeed real, and that he "gets it". Even though J.P. didn't have a lot of climbing experience [and came from Okla-freaking-homa, poor bastard], I thought that he too had what it takes. So much so that he and I and Shawn [aka] climbed El Cap together. I look after my friends. Besides, I wanted to answer J.P.'s "Ask Dr. Piton" question in person.
Not only is J.P. real, but he is a really competent wall climber. He is open to trying new ideas, and he figures out ways to make stuff work. He doesn't say much, but when he speaks - just like E.F. Hutton - man, you'd better listen! This guy is going to make one helluva fine lawyer one day, and I pity the poor bloke what's on the end of one of J.P.'s cross-examinations.
Furthermore, J.P. is tough as nails, and never - not even once - uttered a single word of complaint [at least that I heard] in spite of some very trying, terrifying and potentially dangerous situations thousands of feet above the ground.
I am Dr. Piton,
and I look forward to climbing with J.P. again.
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In reply to: In reply to: Well according to the women on this site Pete has lots of picture's of his knob. And he has no problem sharing them, even if they are unwanted. Now whether or not there are any photo's of said "Knob" being "stroked"- I'm not sure..... josh eewwww... dont say anything that might give him ideas .. ewww, ewww, ewww
You ain't gotta give that loser any ideas, he's already making unwanted advances and exposing himself...gonna run into the wrong girl one day Petey Pie...remember Lorena Bobbit?
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hahahahahaha!!!!!
:lol: !!!!!!!
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