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In reply to: okieterry, can you post a little pik of how you modified your tri-cams? reading it isn't giving me a good enough idea. i need something to help me work with these little things. i don't use them enough because of this common issue.
I would like to see a piccy too, I dont use my tri-cams often enough, even though I love the way they stick in some wierd pockets and odd flaring uneven cracks. Problem is, my partners hates taking them out, and I don't want to lose them. How about it then, can you post a piccy to show us how you did it :?
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braaaaaaaadley
Apr 26, 2004, 4:29 AM
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Sink the pink... simply halareous!... now it's back to my damn paper!
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imnotbob
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Here is a message from okieterry:
ok..I'll try to explain it a little better. first cut a little strip of plastic from a plastic gallon milk jug. The plastic strip should be about the width of the webbing for the tricam that you are stiffening and about 3 to 4 inches long. Then tape it onto the webbing with duct tape. Leave about an inch or so alone at the top near the cam so the plastic doesn't get in the way of the camming action. all this does is stiffen the webbing and with a little practice you'll be able to flip it one way (as a cam type) or the other (as a stopper type) and then slot it.
I'm at home and really don't have access to a digital camera. If you need a photo by monday, pm me and I'll send one.
By the way, I've used mine for a few years now and everyone who sees them in action modifies theirs as well because it really improves them
See ya, Terry
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keithlester
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In reply to: Here is a message from okieterry: ok..I'll try to explain it a little better. first cut a little strip of plastic from a plastic gallon milk jug. The plastic strip should be about the width of the webbing for the tricam that you are stiffening and about 3 to 4 inches long. Then tape it onto the webbing with duct tape. Leave about an inch or so alone at the top near the cam so the plastic doesn't get in the way of the camming action. all this does is stiffen the webbing and with a little practice you'll be able to flip it one way (as a cam type) or the other (as a stopper type) and then slot it. I'm at home and really don't have access to a digital camera. If you need a photo by monday, pm me and I'll send one. By the way, I've used mine for a few years now and everyone who sees them in action modifies theirs as well because it really improves them See ya, Terry
Tell Terry thanks from me, I reckon I should be able to get my brain round that, I'm going to do it right now, its raining outside anyway, so bouldering is out today. If I F**k it up, I'll post again on this thread for help. Cheers, KeeF
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dirtineye
Apr 26, 2004, 4:27 PM
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Tri-cams- a gift from the climbing gods.
To remove, try puting the nut tool under the tail and lifting up (for a TC placed with point up), or you can also try hooking the point and pulling it forward.
valmont is that other wired tricam maker. they have bee non Ebay spoome and I think htey are made in eastern Europe. There are links to those things on at least one of the other tricam threads.
I have one of the usba things, they are not made any more. It's a cool idea, but I was warned by the manufacturere that they can become fixed pro LOL, so I'm saving it for that special moment.
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j_ung
Apr 26, 2004, 4:33 PM
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Travesty! The tricams pictured on the pink tricam page are not real pink tricams! They're doctored to look pink! Conspiracy, says I!
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dirtineye
Apr 26, 2004, 11:02 PM
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HEhre is hte link to the wired tricams from eastern europe:
http://www.volny.cz/davidraska/Home.htm
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dredsovrn
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I would stick to the first four sizes. They come in handy sometimes, and aren't real heavy. Of course I am one of those weirdos who carries a set of curved hexes and uses them.
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jbell2355
Apr 27, 2004, 3:27 PM
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I've never used tri-cams...is there any kind of rock that they just aren't good for, or are they universally the shiz?
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bandycoot
Apr 27, 2004, 3:42 PM
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I got to sink the pink for the first time last weekend! The best placement was passive, but it was still a hassle for the follower to get out! It was funny because I'd read that poem about the follower having trouble cleaning them.
Josh
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flashsixteen
Apr 27, 2004, 4:18 PM
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Tricams stinking rock, more of them in my rack than cams.
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overzealous
Apr 27, 2004, 6:47 PM
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In reply to: I've never used tri-cams...is there any kind of rock that they just aren't good for, or are they universally the shiz?
I'm not sure (i.e. someone who actually knowns chime in) but it would seem to me that tri-cams would be more likely than other pro to be problamatic in really chossy rock because they concentrate force on a small area (the stinger) - and would be more likely to break brittle rock.
edit: apparently spellcheck doesn't catch it when I spell stinger as "singer".
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andypro
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In reply to: I'm not sure (i.e. someone who actually knowns chime in) but it would seem to me that tri-cams would be more likely than other pro to be problamatic in really chossy rock because they concentrate force on a small area (the singer) - and would be more likely to break brittle rock.
I've never had a TriCam move an entire block out of place, but it's happened a few times with a normal cam. As for the brittle rock thing...I dont know because I've never had a tricam blow out of a placement where I thought i would hold in the first place. I can see what you mean though. If you have suspect rock, put the "stinger" on the side that looks better I guess.
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keithlester
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In reply to: In reply to: I've never used tri-cams...is there any kind of rock that they just aren't good for, or are they universally the shiz? I'm not sure (i.e. someone who actually knowns chime in) but it would seem to me that tri-cams would be more likely than other pro to be problamatic in really chossy rock because they concentrate force on a small area (the singer) - and would be more likely to break brittle rock.
I believe you have a point. Chossy rock is though very hard to protect in any case. I had a nasty experience getting pumped above a serious fall on an overhanging wall, climbing a ragged narrow (fingers) shatter crack. None of my cams would stick as there was not one section of the crack long enough to slot all four cams into. None of my stoppers would hold either as there were no handy little pinches. All my hexes were too big. The only thing that would have stuck was the red tricam, but I didnt own any tricams then.
Result of this situation was a very seriously runout climb and an almost certain death-fall. Ok I was doing a FA, got my FA, but was so badly shocked by the experience, I couln't lead for sh*t for several months.
The point I'm making is that the little red tricam would have done the job, even in a chossy shatter crack and made it a much easier lead. So, if you're thinking of getting them, they aren't expensive, and they sure are good in a pinch, just spend the dollars and then you will soon know how good they are for yourself.
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I almost lost my first pinky, but at the same time I fell in love with it. Not after a set of camalots, a few aliens, some friends, nuts, hexes, and yes tricams, I always come back to the pink. I have 3 pinks, 2 reds and a blue, and I love them.
Go get some pink
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I LOVE my tricams and I want their babies :lol:
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hosh
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I've got as man tri-cams as cams. I've got 1 pink, 2 #1's and 1 each of 2, 3, and 4. I use them. I use them a lot. They're really good peices of gear. I think everyone should have a few of the smaller sizes. Honestly, they're often the only thing I can get to fit right in some places. I vote that every leader should have a few.
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davidji
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In reply to: For the better part of two years, when I was new to lead climbing trad routes, I didn't have any cams/friends, and used only stoppers/nuts and Tri-Cams. I've got doubles of the first 4, and singles of the next 3, and I wouldn't lead a route without them.
I placed the #7 on 3 seperate pitches Monday, and If I'd had a #6, I wouldda used it too. I think you're the first one I noticed in this thread who uses the middle sizes. I'm considering using them myself.
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reno
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I like the middle sizes for building an anchor. Multi-directional if placed in a horizontal crack (which seem to be everywhere in Eldo,) and saves a Friend or Camalot for the forthcoming pitch.
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tahoe_rock_master
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In reply to: A couple of years ago on my very first 'real climb' I had a very difficult time cleaning one of my leader's tri-cams. It sort of left a bad taste in my mouth.
I know how you feel. Last year I was messing around with one at the base of a climb. I got it in a bomber placement in about 30 seconds, but it took me about 20minutes to get it back out. When I finally got it out I had cut both my hands up pretty bad, and the tricam was pretty mangled. Pain in the a$$. I don't have any on my rack.
Matt
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I've found more stuck tricams on routes around here..ended up as booty on the rack...................still the first four are the best....and i have doubles of the first 3...............
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I've come across only a couple of tricams left on routes I couldn't get unstuck - and those were beat to hell. Now I've got 3 of each of the pinks and reds and singles of all the rest. Can't be beat for horizontals and pockets, even flaring cracks.
I lead for 10 years before I ever bought a SLCD. Wired nuts, tricams and hexes. Got me anywhere I wanted to go and it made me far better at setting pro than climbers who started out with springy things.
- Robert
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May 10, 2004, 3:38 AM
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In reply to: I've come across only a couple of tricams left on routes I couldn't get unstuck - and those were beat to hell. Now I've got 3 of each of the pinks and reds and singles of all the rest.
Hey, you didn't find 2 pinktricams slung together on Cathedral Ledge in September '02 did you? I had to leave them up there after bailing in the dark on Thin Air and I didn't have a chance to get back.
Your welcome to 'em, I was just asking because I see you're from NH. I know how improbable the chances are.
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rescueman
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In reply to: Hey, you didn't find 2 pinktricams slung together on Cathedral Ledge in September '02 did you? I had to leave them up there after bailing in the dark on Thin Air and I didn't have a chance to get back.
Thanks for the generosity, but no I've had these for years and I can't remember where I found them.
- Robert
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