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flamer
May 24, 2004, 4:44 PM
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In reply to: nothing personal or too serious (joking mostly)...i'm personally feed up with alot of the skaters in my area...i was basicly venting in that post....
Good enough my friend!!
It's easy to get tired of people who take Lightly(or do it to be "cool") the things we take so seriously. Skateboarding is one of those things, so is climbing.
josh
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knuckles
May 24, 2004, 10:31 PM
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In reply to: It's easy to get tired of people who take Lightly(or do it to be "cool") the things we take so seriously
Skating takes itself WAY to seriously. I worked in the skate industry and the number one rule is: 'If you're in, you're OUT.' As soon as something becomes popular (and by extension, profitable) it becomes uncool to the core skatekid. I used to sponsor some local ams and I was always amazed by how quickly they turned on their heroes.
A skateboard is not a way of life, it's not a badge of honor, it's a TOY.
(although it just so happens that it's a toy I'll never get tired of playing with.....)
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macherry
May 24, 2004, 10:36 PM
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In reply to: A skateboard is not a way of life, it's not a badge of honor, it's a TOY. (although it just so happens that it's a toy I'll never get tired of playing with.....)
nicely put!
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flamer
May 25, 2004, 12:14 AM
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In reply to: A skateboard is not a way of life, it's not a badge of honor, it's a TOY. (although it just so happens that it's a toy I'll never get tired of playing with.....)
Although I agree with you, I see other issue's with this.
I grew up in IOWA, I got alot of $hit for being a punk rock Sk8 board kid.
And The thing I found the most frustrating was, when the same kids who made fun of my Dr. Martens boots at the beginning of the school year, suddenly wanted to know where to get a pair half way through(you had to mail order back then).
That was about the time Nirvana and that "grunge" crap hit.
Same story with skateboards, just different details.
On another note...does anybody know how many times Skateboarding has"boomed"?? I'm thinking 3, but there were some lines blurred between 2and 3....
Could be more though...so, the history of skate culture....anybody?
josh
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macherry
May 25, 2004, 2:10 AM
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skating first became big in the sixties with hobie boards, metal wheels and the whole surf/skate scene. I got my first skateboard during its second boom around 1976. That's when skateboard magazine resurfaced, urethene wheels and sealed bearings arrived, and the whole dog town z-boys thing happened. I think it sort of did a slow short death around the early eighties and re-emerged with the bones brigade, and a more street scene. after that i'm not sure. I think it kind of eb/flowed after that. I'm sure with the emergence of the x-games marketing alongside mountain dew and the like, it became more mainstream.
that's my take. don't claim any expertise other than my own experience.
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dc
May 25, 2004, 7:09 AM
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In reply to: ...so, the history of skate culture....anybody?
where's matt (far_east_climber) when you need him? he's the expert on all this...
btw, wouldn't it be cool if we could get a skate forum up and running... possibly in the 'RC.com Clubs' section?
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flamer
May 25, 2004, 2:59 PM
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In reply to: skating first became big in the sixties with hobie boards, metal wheels and the whole surf/skate scene. I got my first skateboard during its second boom around 1976. That's when skateboard magazine resurfaced, urethene wheels and sealed bearings arrived, and the whole dog town z-boys thing happened. I think it sort of did a slow short death around the early eighties and re-emerged with the bones brigade, and a more street scene. after that i'm not sure. I think it kind of eb/flowed after that. I'm sure with the emergence of the x-games marketing alongside mountain dew and the like, it became more mainstream. that's my take. don't claim any expertise other than my own experience.
I got into it during the Bones brigade era.
After that there was a few years where it seemed to die off a bit.
Then it came around again a few years later- but not quite X-games related. This is where I remember the lines blurred. It seemed as if the X-games where spurred more by this "boom" than the other way around.
But the X-games phenomen defiantly made it the crazy popular "sport" it is today.
Course some of this is my opinion, so I'm curious to evedrybody else's take on it.
josh
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macherry
May 25, 2004, 3:06 PM
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There's a great book called: Concrete Wave that chronicles skateboarding through the years. It's written by a canadian ( go figure?). There was actually a tv show (for a short while) based on the book. It was great because it profiled all the old skaters, old skate spots, but also showed what was happening currenlty in the skate scene.
Made me sentimental for my old "jim muir" dogtown model board. Man, that thing was huge!
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web_slave
May 25, 2004, 4:05 PM
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Yaa - Its good to see so many skaters here.
I've been skating for 15 years, made videos, been sponsored, broken bones and twisted more ankles then I care to think about and I still can't bring myself to walk to the 7-11 (why walk when you can roll?).
Riding on a piece of wood and 4 urathane wheels has taught me a lot about the world, it's an experiance that should be treasured, as it's a perspective most of the world will never see (sounds like another sport we all know).
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knuckles
May 25, 2004, 11:40 PM
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OK... here goes, correct me if I'm wrong...
1950's- Surfing gets big, skating is looking like sidewalk surfing with plank boards and metal wheels. First commercial boards available in 1959 or 1960 (Roller Derby)
1960's- First contest in Hermosa Beach 1963... Hobie starts making boards... clay wheels... skating turns into a national fad and big companies (like Sears) start cashing in.... skating crashes in 1965 just like the hula hoop before it.
1970's- Cadillac introduces urethane wheels in 1973... Road Rider introduces precision bearing wheel in 1975... this was the period with the surfer guys, long blonde hair, skating little toothpick boards in bare feet and doing handstands while wearing really tiny little fruitboy shorts... all the girls wanted to see Torger Johnson doing daffies and forevers down in San Diego... until the '75 Del Mar contest when the Zephyr delinquents showed up and changed it all... 1978 sees the rise of the concrete park and Alan Gelfand doing the first ollies...
1980's- Right around 1980 insurance issues pushed most of the parks out of business, skating crashed again (insurance would continue to be an issue until skateboarding recieved 'assumption of risk' status like baseball or basketball in the late 1990's)... 1984 Powell-Peralta releases the 'Bones Brigade Video Show' and skating takes off again... this is the time most of us remember, vert kings, launch ramps, Hosoi, Hawk, Cab, Blender... Powell, Vision, and Santa Cruz dominate... guys like Per Welinder, Primo, and Rodney Mullen have no friends and skate around slowly in parking lots wearing shingaurds and headbands... nobody knows it at the time but these dorks are the future... somewhere around 1989 the big companies crash out (again) and skating goes back to the skaters (again)... they tear down the big ramps and guys start incorporating what the freestyle fruitbats were doing into street skating... people stopped putting skulls on everything sometime in here too....
1990's- Skating is dead in the early 1990's, but some good stuff happens... Chris Miller starts Planet Earth and puts out the first deck with a kicked nose on it... Steve Rocco leaves Santa Cruz and starts World Industries, eventually becoming rich enough to be the largest private landowner on Lana'i... Steve's team defects along with his office manager, she starts Girl skateboards with a cast of allstars to rival the old Bones Brigade and Z-Boys teams... skating goes to San Francisco for a while and hangs out in a park... guys start figuring out how to do a gazillion kinds of techy freestyle manuevers ('cuz tricks are for kids) while flying down stairs and handrails and across gaps... somewhere around 1995 the X-games takes notice of the fact that there are a bunch of kids out there basically willing to killl themselves for free and puts the whole shebang on TV... and by about 1998 skating was HUGE again, driven on by TV coverage, meagre Mountain Dew money, insurance reform and the reintroduction of the longboard...
2000's- Who knows, skating is faddish and big business again and poised for another crash....
...I could be wrong, but that's how I see it... lemme know if you guys have any additions or corrections to my history here.
-brad
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macherry
May 26, 2004, 2:04 AM
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i think that just about covers it knuckles.
The whole park thing was pretty big in the late seventies. I lived in a small prairie city in Canada and we had a indoor skatepark totally made out of fiberglass ramps. I think everybody and their uncle believed they could make money from skating. The guy that promoted the park was quite the sleaze, but he was good to us kids he sponsored. Back then they held national skateboard competitions. I was fortunate to compete at two of them. It was freestyle/slalom crap, but it was a free trip to Vancouver where you got the chance to skate bomber parks and pipes.
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May 26, 2004, 2:35 AM
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tee hee, i impressed the neighborhood punks by teaching my son to skate after work one day, in a skirt and pantyhose nonetheless. i also knew the lyrics to their songs and the name of the band - though, i lost coolness points for calling their jambox a jambox. apparently, they have some other cool, snazzy name for it now.
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flamer
May 27, 2004, 4:09 AM
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Knuckles- That was awesome, thank you!
josh
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knuckles
May 27, 2004, 12:58 PM
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denada.... I know I'm leaving out some major bits but it's one of those subjects that could go on forever....
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May 27, 2004, 1:40 PM
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i've been skating for about 4 years, with a year and a half of not so about 2 and 1/2 years... i just started back up, so far i have most of my tricks that i had a year and a half ago... it's fun, i love it... i fell out of climbing though:( no more climbing, i lost interest........
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