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buddha rocks.....nuf said :D


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Budhism is contrary to climbing anyways. Desire is the root of all evil so we must get rid of desire, including the desire to send.

The ideal of "non-action" doesn't mean doing nothing. It means not being invested in the action or it's outcome.

Kim

But can you climb with out being invested in the action and not desiring a particular outcome?

You can if your goal is to learn something rather than get to the top.

Best, Kim


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Pulling down for the Pope.......

Shouldn't that be "Pedophelia for the Pope"?

no, it should be pulling down ON the pope.


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If you really need a faith to take with you to the crags, consider that the Tantric sage Padmasambhava first carried the teachings of Buddha into India by trekking across the Himalaya in the 8th century, possibly the world's first documented Alpine expedition.

WOW... I love when I can show how knowledgeable I am!!! Padmesabhava actually carried Buddhism from India to Tibet, where he's so loved that they call him Guru Rimpoche ("precious teacher") and consider him a the Second Buddha of our age.
Actually, I find Buddhism and climbing VERY connected with each other... what about the emptiness (lack of intrinsic existence) of holds? Do holds exist without a climber that looks at them and uses them? Does a climber exist without the holds? It is actually a very powerful example of dependent co-arising in my opinion...
And, it is true that one should aknowledge that desire is something to get rid of, but until one is not fully enlighted to move forward on the path Buddhist teachings teach that one has to use the same worldly tools that bound us here in suffering to get rid of attachments. Desire to get enlighted is still desire, but can help to move forward along the path of getting rid of all desires. Desire to climb at one's limits could (and I emphasize the word "could") have the same role.

Tashi Delek


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I think Hannibal gets credit for the first alpine expedition.

And if I see Buddha on a climb I am going to kill her.

DMT

Someone beat me to it. :(

KILL KILL KILL the buddha!


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Padmesabhava actually carried Buddhism from India to Tibet,

True. My mistake.

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I find Buddhism and climbing VERY connected with each other... what about the emptiness (lack of intrinsic existence) of holds? Do holds exist without a climber that looks at them and uses them? Does a climber exist without the holds? It is actually a very powerful example of dependent co-arising in my opinion...

Which is where having a magical flying tiger comes in handy. Good name for a step-aider, no?

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Desire to get enlighted is still desire, but can help to move forward along the path of getting rid of all desires. Desire to climb at one's limits could (and I emphasize the word "could") have the same role.

We cling to the rock in the same way that we cling to the world of appearances. "First there is a hold, then there is no hold, then there is."


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Padmesabhava actually carried Buddhism from India to Tibet,

True. My mistake.

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I find Buddhism and climbing VERY connected with each other... what about the emptiness (lack of intrinsic existence) of holds? Do holds exist without a climber that looks at them and uses them? Does a climber exist without the holds? It is actually a very powerful example of dependent co-arising in my opinion...

Which is where having a magical flying tiger comes in handy. Good name for a step-aider, no?

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Desire to get enlighted is still desire, but can help to move forward along the path of getting rid of all desires. Desire to climb at one's limits could (and I emphasize the word "could") have the same role.

We cling to the rock in the same way that we cling to the world of appearances. "First there is a hold, then there is no hold, then there is."


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If a free-soloist falls from the cliff and there's nobody around to hear him, will the tragedy still be flamed on RC.com?


The student asks the master "How can I achieve enlightenment?"

The master holds up a container of water and says, "You are but the water in this Nalgene, you must take the shape of the container that holds you." He then throws the Nalgene to the floor. It bounces around and comes to a stop.

The student says, "Lexan is the bomb."


In the mind of the student, there are many possibilities; in the mind of the master, you must gaston to a lieback before throwing for the jug.


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Do not hold any preconceptions in your mind about climbing. Climbing, afterall, is only a word.


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I'm a roped-boulderer for Hashem.
shalom
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Do you still get the onsight if you did it in a past life?

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Do you still get the onsight if you did it in a past life?

NickH

Of course you do.


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What is the sound of one rope flapping, rock hopper?

When you can snatch the nut from the placement, then it will be time for you to leave.

But Master Dirtineye, I can not see the rope, so how can I hear it flap? Does the rope really exist?

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