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scottek67
Jan 29, 2010, 7:54 AM
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sidepull wrote: solid design (which is surprising because your website is a mess) - but again, solid design and for a good price. I hope you sell a lot of em. 
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guangzhou
Jan 29, 2010, 8:44 AM
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I don't push products much, but I mentioned your design on my blog. Nothing fancy, but I get a few hundred hits a week, so maybe someone will come your way.
http://class5photos.blogspot.com/...sh-short-design.html
Are you happy with cafe-press. I've consider creating an account with them, but haven't committed yet.
Eman
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climbingtrash
Jan 29, 2010, 12:20 PM
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airscape wrote: I like this: Rock Climbing is Dangerous!! So is Willy Sticking, Dumpster Diving, Flipping off your belay partner, and taking yourself too seriously. You are responsible for your own actions. If you choose to take part in anything mentioned in this site, it is at your own risk. Be careful, have fun, and if you can't handle it Click Here. 
Don't want nobody gettin' hurt and suing me!
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climbingtrash
Jan 29, 2010, 12:31 PM
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Scottek67, ha, yeah...still working on a design that'll fit on the hats.
So you don't like the red shirts I'm sellin' for 10 bucks?
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climbingtrash
Jan 29, 2010, 1:43 PM
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guangzhou wrote: I don't push products much, but I mentioned your design on my blog. Nothing fancy, but I get a few hundred hits a week, so maybe someone will come your way. http://class5photos.blogspot.com/...sh-short-design.html Are you happy with cafe-press. I've consider creating an account with them, but haven't committed yet. Eman
Thanks Eman. Yeah, I like cafepress. Happygirrl has a bit more experience with them than I do so you may want to hit her up too. But I'd be happy to answer any questions.
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scottek67
Jan 29, 2010, 2:44 PM
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I didn't see anywhere on your site I could get a shirt for ten bucks... hook a brother up!
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happiegrrrl
Jan 29, 2010, 7:42 PM
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Yeah - include the link. Or is that just some sick marketing ploy to have the guy click around looking for it.... ahahah
RE: CafePress - I have been doing stuff on there for a couple years now, and am pretty satisfied. There are pros and cons. One of the biggest con's is that they changed their policy on commissions a few months ago.
- You can mark your items to whatever price you want(of course it cannot go below the base price CP charges),
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there are two ways someone can get "to' your product on the site.
First, you drive them there through whatever way you do(websites, someone sends a link to them in an email, your shop comes up in a search, or what have you.)
The other way is if they come in THROUGH the CafePress website. CafePress has really good SEO and unless you do too, anyone who enters "rock climbing t-shirt(or just about anything and t-shirt) into a search, the CP site will come up first. So, the person will click that, and may find your design....
In THAT scenario(which they call Marketplace) you only receive a 10% commission on your item. Not only that - CP makes their OWN price, which most likely is NOT the same as what you are pricing at. In fact, they keep changing the prices around as *test* to see which people like the most....
So - you can sell a shirt for $25.00, and have your markup of, say, $5.00 or $10 or whatever. But if "CP sells" the same item at $22.00, you only get $2.20.
The thing you need to do is to drive the business to your shop yourself. CafePress will NOT do that for you. You have to do that with really good SEO, because there are pro sellers on there who DO have good SEO, and their crappy clip art "IClimb"(with an image of a person on rappel) will come up on page 1 while your item may be buried wherever....
People will NOT find your goods if you just put them up there and hope. Believe me - I know.
The quality on CP is good, though on occasion the print may not be as great as you were hoping. What I discovered is that this is mostly my own fault, in not understanding the qualities needed to be put in to get good quality out.
CP has an excellent customer satisfaction policy, and that is really great. If your customer doesn't like it - for whatever reason - they will refund or replace.
They do all the invoicing and shipping, and customer service, not to mention having the inventory of blanks ready to print on demand, which is a HUGE expense for someone to undertake on their own. And they do it well.
Personally, I am happy with CP except for they did that 10% commission change. It really sucks. But I am doing what I can to drive people directly to my shop, whereas for many years I just didn't get how important that aspect of the equation was. So long as CP doesn't change their policy AGAIN(which they can, at any time), and limit the price we sellers can put our goods out at, I will stay there.
The other "most used" print on demand place is Zazzle.com and I haven't got much experience with them yet. From what I am seeing, other sellers are happy with them. The service is good, the shirt and print quality is good.
I find the platform very confusing and am only just beginning to understand how to actually get my shop the way I want it. But - that might be because I expect it to be "like" cafepress, and the system is totally not the same.
Zazzle has microfiber shirts, which makes them attractive. CP doesn't. And they have a variety of shirt styles that CP doesn't have. They are a little more expensive.
One thing to be sure to do(which I didn't) is to make sure you keep files of any artwork you upload to these places. So that when they change policy, you can go somewhere else with your designs. They will not send them back to you. And in some ways they retain rights to the images and their use(in promotions, for example). If these issues are critical for you - you should be sure to understand what the small print says.
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kovacs69
Jan 29, 2010, 8:27 PM
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Got my shirt yesterday. It looks great!!!
Thanks,
JB
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climbingtrash
Jan 30, 2010, 3:42 AM
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kovacs69 wrote: Got my shirt yesterday. It looks great!!! Thanks, JB
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climbingtrash
Feb 26, 2010, 1:53 PM
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*Update bump*
I've added a page on climbingtrash.com to take orders for this shirt. Price is now 17.00 per shirt and that includes S&H. I'm out of smalls for now but I still have medium, large, and XL. Click on the logo below to order...
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airscape
Feb 27, 2010, 6:40 AM
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Just ordered a tshirts.
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climbingtrash
Mar 6, 2010, 3:39 PM
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Shitty weather in Zion and I'm bored bump.
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Jacobeo5
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I'll take 2, on in Med and one in XXL.
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climbingtrash
Mar 13, 2010, 2:38 PM
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Bump to say I still have a few of these left.
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gmggg
Mar 13, 2010, 3:02 PM
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And now! Not for climbing only! Act fast!
Your metals will anneal faster than ever before when wearing this red hot shirt!
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climbingtrash
Mar 13, 2010, 4:25 PM
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gmggg wrote: And now! Not for climbing only! Act fast! Your metals will anneal faster than ever before when wearing this red hot shirt!
Cool pic. What are you doing?
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gmggg
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Annealing some platinum to make my wedding ring.
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climbingtrash
Mar 13, 2010, 9:15 PM
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gmggg wrote: Annealing some platinum to make my wedding ring.
Wow, that's pretty cool. You'll have to show us how it turns out.
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happiegrrrl
Mar 13, 2010, 10:00 PM
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You're making your own wedding ring? That is so awesome. Congratulations(on the upcoming marriage, I mean. But I guess also on the metalsmithing skills)!
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gmggg
Mar 14, 2010, 2:47 AM
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Thanks all! And feel free to use the pic if it will help you out. The ring came out beautifully, just a simple unobtrusive flat band. Working and staying employed long enough to buy the platinum was harder than making the ring.
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climbingtrash
Mar 14, 2010, 3:33 AM
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Still that's pretty cool you were able to make your own wedding band. Thanks, I'll grab the pic and use it for sure.
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airscape
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Got my Tshirt today
Time to get some molten metal out and take a pic.
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