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diesel___smoke
Mar 16, 2004, 9:31 PM
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Do you really believe if RC.com was as perfect as you assert it to be, there would be threads like these? And everyone who posts one similar is blasted off as a 'drama queen', 'problem user' or 'conspiracy theorist'... In addition to the allegedly felonious behavior of some of the admins/mods here, why are these people still admins/mods? Double standard...
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calamity_chk
Mar 16, 2004, 9:48 PM
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In reply to: Why would I reply to anyone I don't trust, which will in all probability turn abusive, as it has before?
please tell me the names of mods and admins who have been abusive here. kate and i have both tried comunicating with you publicly and privately - to no avail. we have even encouraged you to contact phil who is probably the most diplomatic person i've ever met.
honestly though, it seems to me that you are more concerned with holding on to your paranoia than actually affecting change - if you actually wanted to promote improvement, you would be more inclined to clearly define the change that you feel should take place.
would you prefer that we have trevor absolve himself of all financial and legal responsibility of rc.com and pass this obligation on to you?
would you prefer that we chop bolts on animal world?
would you prefer that we moderate more or less? should we lock all new shoe threads? what about sexual harassment complaints stemming from community - would you like to deal with those?
if you would provide some sort of specifics here, i wouldnt be stabbing in the dark. then again, maybe i'm just falling for a troll?
In reply to: Furthermore, do you believe if RC.com was as perfect as you assert it to be there would be threads like these?
In reply to: And everyone who posts one similar is blasted off as a 'drama queen', 'problem user' or 'conspiracy theorist'...
again - send me the link of the thread you're upset about. after digging through the first six pages of your posts, i had to stop and do some work for my paying job. though, if you're willing to write a check for the time i've spent on this at my bill rate, i'll be happy to dedicate my time to this until it's resolved to your satisifaction.
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jt512
Mar 16, 2004, 9:58 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: And his qualifications for mod are incorrect, or at least incomplete. Failing the employment application at REI is also acceptable credential. -Jay :lol: :lol: Hmmm...I passed that. Must've slipped through the cracks... Does failing the REI credit card application count?? :P
Maybe that's how I got chosen! If I get my truck reposessed you think I can make Administrator?
-Jay
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diesel___smoke
Mar 16, 2004, 9:59 PM
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Please address the double standard and felonious behavior... and maybe reread my post too... you're addressing issues that aren't even in my post...
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calamity_chk
Mar 16, 2004, 10:14 PM
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In reply to: Please address the double standard and felonious behavior
In reply to: and maybe reread my post too
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diesel___smoke
Mar 16, 2004, 10:15 PM
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Also, since there is supposedly huge commotion over the title, please make any requests here for title changes and with recommendations as to what the title should be changed to here. Submissions will need to have the same ring and attention-getting title as the original...
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sojourner
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i thought you just misspelled 'access'. imagine my surprise...
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robmcc
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*blink* *blink*
This can't possibly be over something that happened 18 months ago.
I don't care, I suppose. I'm not a mod or admin, but I've gotta say, I don't understand what the reluctance is to just post up with very specific info about what you're so upset about. If you won't and are just convinced it'll never be fixed, why not just walk away?
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will someone please post some naked butt pics already?
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calamity_chk
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so, you're upset about something that happened almost a year before you ever even joined the site??
good grief. i feel sad for you, dude.
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diesel___smoke
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In reply to: why not just walk away?
I suppose I feel compelled for discrepancies...
Amber, it's the double standard, that is just an example which I am comparing to a relatively recent event.
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Mar 16, 2004, 10:54 PM
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In reply to: Also, since there is supposedly huge commotion over the title, please make any requests here for title changes and with recommendations as to what the title should be changed to here. Submissions will need to have the same ring and attention-getting title as the original...
You are seriously missing the point.
Amber has asked you nicely to change the title and has humored you in your thread here. She's even gone above and beyond to appease you. But she doesn't need your permission or approval of a new title for it to be changed OR for this thread to hit archives. We are all volunteers on a free site. Sorry you don't like the moderating practices here, but you are not the first, nor will you be the last. But one thing that is clear, is that this site has rules of conduct so to speak and there are going to be people that inforce them. You can either play by the rules like everybody else or get called out for it, just like everybody else. Plain and simple. Can't please everybody all the time and some of you none of the time. Take the suggestions you have been given by the two admins that have bent over backwards for you and try to resolve the problem PRIVATELY or quit wasting bandwidth publicly.
As a moderator myself, I don't even know who you are. So your conspiracy theory that we are all "watching" you is a little out there don't cha think?
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atg200
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will somebody just ban this whiny little fruitcake please?
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calamity_chk
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In reply to: Amber, it's the double standard, that is just an example which I am comparing to a relatively recent event.
diesel, i am very honestly trying to help you out - but this little game is getting old. what is the 'relatively recent event' to which you allude, and how does it relate to the incident with adam - something for which he has been more than raked over the coals?
honestly, it sounds to me like you got high with someone who's playing you for a fool and has set you up with some bad party lines. i've learned the hard way that placing confidence in the wrong people is all too easy sometimes and causes infinitely more heartache than it's worth.
should you choose to pm, i will not divulge the contents of our conversation with anyone; however, i will likely have to paraphrase parts of the conversation to convey your concerns to the rest of the adminstrative staff.
having said that, i've blown most of my day on this because i have an eternally bleeding heart and really wanted to find out what's wrong - but feel like i'm basically being jerked around for actually trying to give a damn about why you're upset. no more games. cite threads and make a case, or have fun dealing with general community bs for whining without reason.
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caughtinside
Mar 16, 2004, 11:00 PM
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In reply to: will somebody just ban this whiny little fruitcake please?
No kidding. Clearly a troll. He keeps talking about 'his point' but I have yet to see one anywhere here. Just wasting the time of the mods.
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diesel___smoke
Mar 16, 2004, 11:03 PM
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I have stated my point, why are some people banned for certain allegations, yet some who have abused their power far worse are promoted/left alone?
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calamity_chk
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ps - i think climbs4fun, atg, and caughtinside have done an excellent job of demonstrating how much time i've lost today because of my bleeding heart.
though, i daresay that i will laugh if i hear another 'no one listens' post.
i'm done here and am changing the title. d_s, if you would like to discuss this further, please feel free to pm.
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Mar 16, 2004, 11:09 PM
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Amber honey, just cut the cord and walk away girl. Can't help those that won't help them selves. Aint worth your time.
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calamity_chk
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(kelly drags amber out of the forum, amber bleating "but i want to saaaave the woooooorld!")
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diesel___smoke
Mar 16, 2004, 11:13 PM
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Ok, First I will say I don't like Pete. Me and him are hugely different, he rubbed me the wrong way many times while I was around him, but I passionately disagree he should have ever been banned. Sending people out the backdoor and pushing them under the rug is furthering the problem, not fixing it. I dislike Pete, but I accept that these people are in our society and I will objectively fight for them regardless of personal emotion. So, how can the PTPP case and the rrradam case be compared? You won't state the evidence in the PTPP case, just sweep it under the rug. Society has become twisted, dark and dispicable, and it's being furthered here. Don't let it happen. It's wrong; look further than your emotions.
So please cite said evidence in each case and let the community judge for themselves. It's clear, as Dingus put it, where do we get off?
(And out of respect to certain people, I changed the title)
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Mar 16, 2004, 11:21 PM
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In reply to: ...but I passionately disagree he should have ever been banned. Sending people out the backdoor and pushing them under the rug is furthering the problem, not fixing it. So, how can the PTPP case and the rrradam case be compared? You won't state the evidence in the PTPP case, just sweep it under the rug. So please cite said evidence in each case and let the community judge for themselves.
You will NEVER know the details. It is not now, nor will it ever be any of your business what happened with Pete or Adam for that matter. Those matters are handled privately for a reason. It doesn't concern you, move on!
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Zing!
In a last gasp effort to keep the troll alive, DS plays the Pete card! We're good for at least 5 more pages! Hurrah!
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