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microbarn
Sep 18, 2007, 7:33 PM
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I have to admit that your pictures and descriptions are pretty tempting, and they really make me curious to check this place out. I never saw myself as much of a boulderer. These next two weekends are definitely booked for me, but I will have to contact you in october if the weather is still nice. I can't wait until these weddings end. They are taking up way to much climbing time. :)
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dvs
Sep 19, 2007, 12:11 PM
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Anyone heading to NRG/Seneca/Mills etc this weekend and wouldn't mind someone new to the area (Pittsburgh) tagging along/meeting there? I have gear - just no one to climb with, yet. thanks, Divesh
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mountainman
Sep 24, 2007, 6:08 AM
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My friend Jeff drove down from New Jersey to meet me at Seneca Rocks, I got up and left at 3:50 AM Saturday morning and got there in 3 hours. We both crashed in our cars; I woke at 9 and we headed up to do Pleasant O. That'll wake you up! We went over the top and rapped down in a bit of a crowd. Then despite the arrival of the sun, we did the first pitch of Prune. Just as I reached the top, there was a sound like a bomb exploding to my right. A lady had fallen at least 20 feet, but probably more, off Front C. I untied and ran down the ledge to her, and my first impression was that she was dead. She was not moving from the time I first saw her. She had fallen on her right side onto a boulder. The rope tied to her was all that was keeping her from falling another 60 feet. We took all the slings we could find and anchored her in. We saw she was breathing, and had a good pulse, but was completely unconscious. We yelled down to alert Search and Rescue, and after five minutes, Katrina began to wake up. She was moving all her extremities, and was in a terrible location, and most uncomfortable, so trying to keep her neck from moving, we helped her sit up. She knew her name, but didn't know where she was, the date or the President's name. I did a quick check and didn't think she had broken any limbs. Her mind got clearer, but she keep saying she was extremely tired. Search and Rescue arrived with the litter. It took a long time to get the lowering set up and the lady in place, but we did it. A small army of men began carrying her down to the road, where an ambulance ran her over to a helicopter. The guy Rich (who was giving her a top belay), said no rope went therough his belay device, so there must have been 15 to 20 feet of rope out, for her to fall so far. Also, Rich didn't know how to put the rope in a rappel device, and we had to teach him to get him down. I was so upset, and worried that night that her insides were busted up, but I asked at the climbing store this morning (Arthur was the head S & R guy) and the hospital said besides the concussion, she had a tiny chip off one of the spinal bones. A miracle. If your belayer isn't taking up the rope DON'T KEEP CLIMBING. This is supposed to be fun. That nice English lady could have been killed.
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microbarn
Sep 24, 2007, 12:13 PM
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Quite the weekend. I am glad to hear that she should be OK with a little bit of healing time, and I am glad you were there to help. edit: I can't speil fur carp!
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victor999
Sep 24, 2007, 12:59 PM
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Thanks for posting, Doyle. Was she wearing a helmet?
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naitch
Sep 24, 2007, 1:53 PM
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Yes
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mountainman
Sep 24, 2007, 2:07 PM
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I venture to say that helmet saved her life, and not least, her good looks. She landed on her right side and her head hit the boulder.
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markc
Sep 24, 2007, 3:12 PM
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I wish we had bumped into each other under better circumstances, Doyle. All told, I must have run into at least three or four friends or acquaintances. This weekend was only my third trip to Seneca this season. We squeezed in a bit of climbing on Saturday, and had a good day on Sunday. Of course, we also managed to get behind a party or two that were a little slower than you hope for. I don't recall exactly where Ricardo and I were when we first heard the sirens on Saturday. We didn't rappel down and find out what happened until the majority of the rescue was finished. Reports Saturday night were confused to say the least. I'm still at a loss as to the exact details, but there's no good reason for that type of accident. I was glad to hear the injuries weren't more serious.
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charley
Sep 24, 2007, 4:38 PM
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Glad to hear the injuries were not too serious. Scary though.
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thewyseclimber
Sep 25, 2007, 1:16 PM
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Had a great weekend out with Victor and Divesh at NRG. That guy climbs pretty hard. He almost linked up the moves on Pockets of Resistance, 12a, down by Rico Suave. All in all a good weekend. Good climbs, but hot greasy weather. Thanks to Victor for the introduction to Pies and Pints.
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truello
Sep 25, 2007, 2:17 PM
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Charley or anyone else going to be at the Mill today? Partner realized he can't get there 'til 5:30 and I'd like to get some climbing in before then, since sun is setting earlier and earlier every day. I'll be arriving between 4:15 and 4:45 depending on if anyone else happens to be going.
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charley
Sep 25, 2007, 3:06 PM
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I am planning on leaving noonish for the mill. Arrive 12:30, walk 35 min. set up a climb, do laps till 3, go swim and shower at morraine. Yes I could be back around 430 and I could belay you til your partner showed up. I don't know if I'll have any climbing left in me though.
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truello
Sep 25, 2007, 3:16 PM
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No no don't go out of your way for me. I just thought perhaps (like last Wednesday) you might already be there climbing at that time. Thanks though! Have a good day
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victor999
Sep 26, 2007, 12:51 PM
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Layne (thewyseclimber) and Divesh (dvs) are good guys. Solid lead climbers. They've inspired me to get my head in shape and take on some challenges this fall. Too often I become complacent to just TR or lead easy routes, when I know deep inside I want to continue moving forward with my lead climbing abilities. Ah, the Mental Game!
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mountainman
Sep 27, 2007, 2:30 AM
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Friday's weather looks awesome. Anyone want to climb?
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truello
Sep 27, 2007, 3:00 AM
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Of course I want to climb on Friday. However, my boss wouldn't be too pleased . I am planning on getting out Sunday. Not sure where yet. Any suggestions on a good place within daytrip range with trad routes from 5.4 to 5.6ish?
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victor999
Sep 27, 2007, 10:32 AM
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Truello, you just described Lisbon. I might be up for a trip to Lisbon on Sunday. Saturday is my daughter's birthday. Victor
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microbarn
Sep 27, 2007, 11:02 AM
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victor is right. Lisbon is the best place I can think of. At first I was trying to think of a better suggestion, but I don't know of any. Lisbon has lots of short sport routes and only 2 trad lines, but they are the two best lines that I have done there. Cooper's is the only place that is coming to mind with more routes in the 5.4-5.6 range, but then it is onsight trad climbing. You would have to be pretty good at guessing the grade from the ground, and you might do a lot of walking.
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charley
Sep 27, 2007, 12:14 PM
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If I get rid of this cold, I would be up for a sunday lisbon trip. There is a 4,6, and a 4ish trad lead there. To the left of bursitis, up the hill a bit, where the huge rock roof fell or was pryed off. I would check it out on rapell or tr to see if the pro is good. Not so much the pro but the rock. As far as coopers you can go to Tim's site and between what he has and a link there you can find the grades of lots of climbs. At sunset there is a crack right of titanium digit that is about 5.3 and leadable. The beginners route way right on the same block is easy and leadable. The arch is 5.6 and protects. Another place close to pburgh is cumberland md. narrows. Check out http://www.bcpl.net/...uide.html#the climbs for an on line guide. I know in the funland area there are a cpl 5.4 climbs and there are longer 5.4s up the wall. It is cooling off now so cumberland might be a good place to get a group together for. I will be in new england 10/4-8 and in colorado 10/14-25.
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truello
Sep 27, 2007, 1:28 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions. I like both options... The Narrows at least 6 good routes in that range on just 1 wall but at cost of the extra drive. Lisbon would be a lot less driving though and the chance to finally get to climb with Victor would be a bonus I'm letting my partner make the decision because The Narrows would only be an extra ~45 minutes each way for me but a lot more for him because he's coming from Slippery Rock. Will post up when I get an answer.
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truello
Sep 27, 2007, 9:50 PM
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Lisbon on Sunday it is. Weather should be great. We probably won't get there until 12 or 1, though... my partner is afraid he'll party too hard the night before I'll show up earlier if others will be there, though.
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charley
Sep 27, 2007, 11:47 PM
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You tell your partner if he is under thirty and can't drink all nite and climb all day for at least two days, he's a pussy. Ahhh, you partner is a guy, right.
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victor999
Sep 28, 2007, 4:45 PM
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My wife has given me permission to go to Lisbon on Sunday... (Hurray!) but I kind of need a partner. I'll need to take Nina (13) and Dante (10) with me, but I have room for one more (e.g. The Partner) if you're interested. I can bring my rack and quickdraws (I'd like to do the 4 and 6 trad routes first, then play on the sport climbs).
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