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bones
Aug 5, 2006, 4:14 AM
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^I'll wait to hear it from him. BTW, this discussion is not about the other crack bolting thread. This is a general discussion. Well, I'll be out climbing for the weekend. Maybe Jay will have some answers for me when I get back. Oh, and Iceman, keep looking for those bolt haters! Have a safe and fun weekend everybody. Try not to bolt any cracks while I'm gone. ^edited to respond to Jay's faithful online sidekick.
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angry
Aug 5, 2006, 4:21 AM
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In reply to: Well, I'll be out climbing for the weekend. Maybe Jay will have some answers for me when I get back. Oh, and Iceman, keep looking for those bolt haters! Have a safe and fun weekend everybody. Try not to bolt any cracks while I'm gone. I'll be gone for a week, not the weekend. It takes longer to bolt a crack with a handdrill. But I must, iceman has shown me the light.
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clayman
Aug 5, 2006, 4:32 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: What, if a group of climbers want to develop a crag that's home to an endangered species? If you can explain what an endangered species has to do with a bolt next to the crack I will be impressed. Such leaps of logic are what the internet is all about! Local ethics RULE! DMT Why don't you read my post, what I said had nothing to do with bolts, guy. It had everything to do with the irony of your reasoning.
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the_iceman
Aug 5, 2006, 8:41 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: ***UPDATE*** Donation sent to Angry for the c--- Punch Fund. Whatever the f--- you sent me, it didn't pass the antiviral checks in my computer. Mods take note, the_iceman did email me (I wanted to see if he'd really paypal me). I never opened that email. Whatever he sent did not pass the virus check my computer runs. So yes, he's one of "those guys". Bullshit. I sent the guy a buck. Here's proof. Trying to get me banned is just low. Talk about over the top. Fuck you too! Edited to remove photo, as per Angry's request. After he admited that I had done nothing wrong.
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the_iceman
Aug 5, 2006, 8:45 AM
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If any mods are interested in investigating this further, I will be more than happy to offer further proof. In fact, I would encourage an investigation, so that we can prove Angry to be the fraud he is.
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angry
Aug 5, 2006, 11:43 AM
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Iceman, you did indeed send me a buck. The way paypal forwards that info to me set off the virus alarms on my computer. I just checked, it's only .67 after fees. I'm going to need more than that. My students have a nasty habit of googling me, it's really fucking annoying. Now take my full name off that post or I will call the police. That's an invasion of privacy you don't have the right to make.
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the_iceman
Aug 5, 2006, 11:54 AM
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Fair enough. I don't think there are any legal ramifications of leaving it up there, but you've withdrawn your false accusation I have no more need to prove my innocence. I really wish you would have done a little further checking into it before you started throwing out baseless accusations like that. Oh well. It was never my intention to fund your trip in it's entirety. That's not good for me physically or financially. Just thought I'd get the ball rolling with the first donation. As I stated before, if you decide to come out I will buy you a beer or something. Perhaps we can continue our debate in person. The other side always seems to be a little clearer and easier to understand in person. If you still decide to cockpunch me, I happen to know a little something about my rights as well, and how to contact police when my rights are violated. :wink: Carry on.
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the_iceman
Aug 5, 2006, 12:42 PM
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In reply to: ^I'll wait to hear it from him. BTW, this discussion is not about the other crack bolting thread. This is a general discussion. Well, I'll be out climbing for the weekend. Maybe Jay will have some answers for me when I get back. Oh, and Iceman, keep looking for those bolt haters! Have a safe and fun weekend everybody. Try not to bolt any cracks while I'm gone. ^edited to respond to Jay's faithful online sidekick. I can agree with some of Jay's ideas, and we both seem to have similar views in this case. But I'm hardly his sidekick. In fact, I was responding to this thread before Jay was... Although this is just a split from another thread. I think it's safe to say Jay has flung a turd or two at some of my posts. Or maybe I am a Jay alter-ego? 'Tis a mystery shrouded in an enigma....
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climbsomething
Aug 5, 2006, 9:36 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: ^I'll wait to hear it from him. BTW, this discussion is not about the other crack bolting thread. This is a general discussion. Well, I'll be out climbing for the weekend. Maybe Jay will have some answers for me when I get back. Oh, and Iceman, keep looking for those bolt haters! Have a safe and fun weekend everybody. Try not to bolt any cracks while I'm gone. ^edited to respond to Jay's faithful online sidekick. I can agree with some of Jay's ideas, and we both seem to have similar views in this case. But I'm hardly his sidekick. In fact, I was responding to this thread before Jay was... Although this is just a split from another thread. I think it's safe to say Jay has flung a turd or two at some of my posts. Or maybe I am a Jay alter-ego? 'Tis a mystery shrouded in an enigma.... No, I think he was referring to me.
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c4c
Aug 5, 2006, 9:48 PM
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Wait. poodles didn't evolve from alligators???
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stevej
Aug 5, 2006, 11:46 PM
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angry are you from boulder colorado?
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the_iceman
Aug 6, 2006, 12:24 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: ^I'll wait to hear it from him. BTW, this discussion is not about the other crack bolting thread. This is a general discussion. Well, I'll be out climbing for the weekend. Maybe Jay will have some answers for me when I get back. Oh, and Iceman, keep looking for those bolt haters! Have a safe and fun weekend everybody. Try not to bolt any cracks while I'm gone. ^edited to respond to Jay's faithful online sidekick. I can agree with some of Jay's ideas, and we both seem to have similar views in this case. But I'm hardly his sidekick. In fact, I was responding to this thread before Jay was... Although this is just a split from another thread. I think it's safe to say Jay has flung a turd or two at some of my posts. Or maybe I am a Jay alter-ego? 'Tis a mystery shrouded in an enigma.... No, I think he was referring to me. Perhaps, but the only other sentence specificly mentioned me. Unless you're talking about the "have a safe weekend everybody" comment. If the label fits you, go for it. It's certainly not me.
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jt512
Aug 6, 2006, 1:37 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: ^I'll wait to hear it from him. BTW, this discussion is not about the other crack bolting thread. This is a general discussion. Well, I'll be out climbing for the weekend. Maybe Jay will have some answers for me when I get back. Oh, and Iceman, keep looking for those bolt haters! Have a safe and fun weekend everybody. Try not to bolt any cracks while I'm gone. ^edited to respond to Jay's faithful online sidekick. I can agree with some of Jay's ideas, and we both seem to have similar views in this case. But I'm hardly his sidekick. In fact, I was responding to this thread before Jay was... Although this is just a split from another thread. I think it's safe to say Jay has flung a turd or two at some of my posts. Or maybe I am a Jay alter-ego? 'Tis a mystery shrouded in an enigma.... No, I think he was referring to me. Perhaps, but the only other sentence specificly mentioned me. Unless you're talking about the "have a safe weekend everybody" comment. If the label fits you, go for it. It's certainly not me. Iceman, you're still new around here. They were talking about climbsomething. And, BTW, I don't fling turds. Jay
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Aug 6, 2006, 2:49 AM
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In reply to: ***UPDATE*** Donation sent to Angry for the c--- Punch Fund. And as it turns out, you really did send him a buck. Thats pretty damn funny. Perhaps if more donations are made, the cock punching will befall you. Angry, ehurt, that really did hurt. :lol:
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sick_climba
Aug 6, 2006, 3:45 AM
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In reply to: "There is nothing wrong with bolting cracks. It let's those folks who are afraid of trad to lead the crack". I actually over-heard that at Jack's Canyon; I almost pissed myself. Your thoughts? Jefro Im fairly sure that the plumber ( or other) is not going to be happy with a drill peirceing when the sun SHOULDN'T shine.
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the_iceman
Aug 6, 2006, 4:46 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: ^I'll wait to hear it from him. BTW, this discussion is not about the other crack bolting thread. This is a general discussion. Well, I'll be out climbing for the weekend. Maybe Jay will have some answers for me when I get back. Oh, and Iceman, keep looking for those bolt haters! Have a safe and fun weekend everybody. Try not to bolt any cracks while I'm gone. ^edited to respond to Jay's faithful online sidekick. I can agree with some of Jay's ideas, and we both seem to have similar views in this case. But I'm hardly his sidekick. In fact, I was responding to this thread before Jay was... Although this is just a split from another thread. I think it's safe to say Jay has flung a turd or two at some of my posts. Or maybe I am a Jay alter-ego? 'Tis a mystery shrouded in an enigma.... No, I think he was referring to me. Perhaps, but the only other sentence specifically mentioned me. Unless you're talking about the "have a safe weekend everybody" comment. If the label fits you, go for it. It's certainly not me. Iceman, you're still new around here. They were talking about climbsomething. And, BTW, I don't fling turds. Jay Fair enough. I wasn't trying to claim the title. The way he worded his post was what had me confused. I stand corrected. Even if you'd flung a turd or two, I wont hold it against you. But It's nice to know you don't require everyone to agree with you all the time to avoid the turd. Just shows you're a bigger person than most. Anyway, the point I was trying to make, however moot now, was that people don't have to be someone else's lackey in order to share the same viewpoints. Carry On.
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bones
Aug 9, 2006, 1:18 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: ^I'll wait to hear it from him. BTW, this discussion is not about the other crack bolting thread. This is a general discussion. Well, I'll be out climbing for the weekend. Maybe Jay will have some answers for me when I get back. Oh, and Iceman, keep looking for those bolt haters! Have a safe and fun weekend everybody. Try not to bolt any cracks while I'm gone. ^edited to respond to Jay's faithful online sidekick. I can agree with some of Jay's ideas, and we both seem to have similar views in this case. But I'm hardly his sidekick. In fact, I was responding to this thread before Jay was... Although this is just a split from another thread. I think it's safe to say Jay has flung a turd or two at some of my posts. Or maybe I am a Jay alter-ego? 'Tis a mystery shrouded in an enigma.... No, I think he was referring to me. Perhaps, but the only other sentence specifically mentioned me. Unless you're talking about the "have a safe weekend everybody" comment. If the label fits you, go for it. It's certainly not me. Iceman, you're still new around here. They were talking about climbsomething. And, BTW, I don't fling turds. Jay Fair enough. I wasn't trying to claim the title. The way he worded his post was what had me confused. I stand corrected. Even if you'd flung a turd or two, I wont hold it against you. But It's nice to know you don't require everyone to agree with you all the time to avoid the turd. Just shows you're a bigger person than most. Anyway, the point I was trying to make, however moot now, was that people don't have to be someone else's lackey in order to share the same viewpoints. Carry On. Yeah, I was talking about climbsomething. The fact that you couldn't figure that out makes me wonder if it's safe for you to be climbing at all. Still no answers after all this time? Oh well, I think it's time to put this thread to rest.
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: ^I'll wait to hear it from him. BTW, this discussion is not about the other crack bolting thread. This is a general discussion. Well, I'll be out climbing for the weekend. Maybe Jay will have some answers for me when I get back. Oh, and Iceman, keep looking for those bolt haters! Have a safe and fun weekend everybody. Try not to bolt any cracks while I'm gone. ^edited to respond to Jay's faithful online sidekick. I can agree with some of Jay's ideas, and we both seem to have similar views in this case. But I'm hardly his sidekick. In fact, I was responding to this thread before Jay was... Although this is just a split from another thread. I think it's safe to say Jay has flung a turd or two at some of my posts. Or maybe I am a Jay alter-ego? 'Tis a mystery shrouded in an enigma.... No, I think he was referring to me. Perhaps, but the only other sentence specifically mentioned me. Unless you're talking about the "have a safe weekend everybody" comment. If the label fits you, go for it. It's certainly not me. Iceman, you're still new around here. They were talking about climbsomething. And, BTW, I don't fling turds. Jay Fair enough. I wasn't trying to claim the title. The way he worded his post was what had me confused. I stand corrected. Even if you'd flung a turd or two, I wont hold it against you. But It's nice to know you don't require everyone to agree with you all the time to avoid the turd. Just shows you're a bigger person than most. Anyway, the point I was trying to make, however moot now, was that people don't have to be someone else's lackey in order to share the same viewpoints. Carry On. Yeah, I was talking about climbsomething. The fact that you couldn't figure that out makes me wonder if it's safe for you to be climbing at all. Still no answers after all this time? Oh well, I think it's time to put this thread to rest. My opinion on bolting cracks? I think that anyone who really thinks it is an important issue has lost all perspective on life. Jay
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In reply to: My opinion on bolting cracks? I think that anyone who really thinks it is an important issue has lost all perspective on life. Jay Well then, I guess you and I both have lost it, as it seems we both have a lot of words invested in this topic. Agreed, on a larger scale, this is not a very important issue. But within the sphere of a recreational activity called rock climbing, to which I'm pretty sure this website is devoted, it is.
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In reply to: Please provide me with a reason other than convenience that you use cams instead of machine nuts with a piece of cordalette threaded through? Rock quality is the reason you are asking for. Some climbs are better protected by nuts then cams, but it depends on the climb. You sound like a total n00b, BTW
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If the crack is 3 feet wide, I'd be happy to clip a bolt if nothing else is there :lol:
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edl
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In reply to: My opinion on bolting cracks? I think that anyone who really thinks it is an important issue has lost all perspective on life. Jay :lol: :lol: :lol: Ouch, that hurt. A mighty fine conclusion after fifteen pages of debate. I hope that comment either got you laid or got you like a GAGGLE of worshippers. Nice way to avoid the question, BTW. :wink: BTW, I don't really care about any of this shit either. Lets go talk about why "Chris Sharma not on 5.10 anymore". Answer: he found 5.11 more attractive.
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In reply to: My opinion on bolting cracks? I think that anyone who really thinks it is an important issue has lost all perspective on life. Jay Well, well - the energizer is still going. Anyone who thinks this isn't an important issue has lost all perspective on climbing. In fact, you've obviously spent so much time in clip joints you think that's all it's about. I've got an idea - bolt up the cracks on Astroman (Kalcario won't mind...) and see if folks in the Valley share your views. Hell, you may even be able to get Dingus to help if he's feeling contrary that day...
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In reply to: "There is nothing wrong with bolting cracks. It let's those folks who are afraid of trad to lead the crack". I actually over-heard that at Jack's Canyon; I almost pissed myself. Your thoughts? Jefro I guess you shouldn't have pissed YOURSELF...
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stone_d_cologne
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In reply to: My opinion on bolting cracks? I think that anyone who really thinks it is an important issue has lost all perspective on life. Jay I think that anyone who really thinks it isn't an important issue has lost all perspective on climbing.
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