Sad to see Nalgene cave to this nonsense. The research on bisphenol-A is pretty clear: It's about as harmful as Tylenol.

So this Tritan stuff is new, right? What are the odds it will be the new chemical to be feared and avoided in 5-10 years?

Does Eastman have some reasonable proof that this plastic is wonderful and harmless, or is it just "something else"? Any independent research? If it is new, there really can't be much in the way of long term impact studies...

Sad to see Nalgene cave to this nonsense. The research on bisphenol-A is pretty clear: It's about as harmful as Tylenol.

If you're trying to imply that it's safe then that's a poor analogy. Tylenol has a max recommended dose and you can easily cause serious problems if you chug a bottle. You can't take it with many other medications.

Sad to see folks sentimental over a very high priced water bottle.
DMT

What the label claims (not much new here aside from the BPA issue):
-Tough and impact resistant
-Dishwasher safe and durable
-Won't retain taste and odors
-Designed for versatility - backpack, gym, office, car, travel, home
-This bottle is made from Eastman Tritan (TM) copolyester that is manufactured without BPA

Sad to see Nalgene cave to this nonsense. The research on bisphenol-A is pretty clear: It's about as harmful as Tylenol.

We all due respect, ja1484, this is not a good analogy. Tylenol has harmful side effects, but it also has therapeutical benefits. Are there any benefits to BPA?
Also, when I take tylenol, I take it b/c the benefits outweigh the risks. However, I would not like tylenol added to my regular drinking water.

Nalgene is doing what consumers want it to do. It doesn't matter how harmful BPA actually is in the amounts that are leeching into water inside Nalgene. The prevailing sentiment right now is that it is undesirable, and the last thing Nalgene wants is to go down fighting to prove that BPA is harmless, b/c it would be very hard to prove that it is harmless. While the harm has not been proven rigidly, there is a reasonable doubt. They built this image of wholesome healthy outdoorsy types drinking water out of their trendy brightly colored Nalgenes, instead of buying bottled water, and if they lose this consumer base, they are going to be hurting big-time. So "caving in to this nonsense" is good business practice in this case.

What I'm *trying* to imply (and the 'net missed the point, as usual), is that there are plenty of items in our society deemed "ok" that are as bad or far worse than BPA. Believe me, I know all about do's and don'ts with Acetaminophen. The items you listed were *precisely* the point of the analogy. No one's screaming for Tylenol to be taken off the market.




I'm not sentimental. I'm annoyed that another push by the bourgeois-liberal-green-fad movement actually resulted in any action taken by anyone. I guess they'll feel nice n' smug drinking out of their BPA-free Nalgenes while driving their Priuses around San Fran.

Two of my best friends in the world drive a Prius around San Francisco...

DMT

I'm not sentimental. I'm annoyed that another push by the bourgeois-liberal-green-fad movement actually resulted in any action taken by anyone. I guess they'll feel nice n' smug drinking out of their BPA-free Nalgenes while driving their Priuses around San Fran.

I thought this whole BPA thing was pretty funny until I came home last week. Unannounced my wife had replaced my old nalgenes with "BPA free" bottles. I didn't realize how attached I was to my old beat up, duct-taped, trashy webbing slung bottles until they were gone.

I sadly reminisced about their history: In addition to both skanky and pristine water they've held things like King Cobra, High Life, liquor, orange juice, coffee, urine (too lazy to get out of the tent), gatorade, oatmeal, many other cheap malt liquors, etc. When I put regular water in them with every sip I could taste that particular bottle's complex and diverse history.

Now they're gone - it actually made me quite sad. Hell, I'll probably get cancer from BPA anyways - I figure if it actually is harmful, the damage is done.

First of all. Can we make a rule about using the word Beta to talk about things like water bottles. Secondly, I have a sneaking suspicion that Nalgene/CamelBak proliferated this whole media scare. I work at an EMS in CT and I've watched the thole thing go down. Seems Fishy to me. Camelbak has their new bottles before the media scare even hit full strength, and nalgene had their new bottles 2 weeks later. How long does it take to reformulate and reproduce millions of bottles? Since then, both companies are selling bottles by droves. Shelf after shelf after shelf, empty. A few months ago, we would sell maybe 25 water bottles a week. Now it's in the hundreds. All I have to say is, when stuff like this goes down, with media scares and and mass hysteria, I always look at who's making all the money from it, and it's definately camelbak/nalgene. Maybe sales were going down because everyone already had a bottle, so they needed a reason for people to throw out their bottles and get new ones.

In my defense, they get the soap and water treatment after urine exposure.

Actually, now that I think about it, that's probably her real reason for getting me new bottles...

Ooh yeah, I hate those self-righteous people running around saving gas.

Sad to see Nalgene cave to this nonsense. The research on bisphenol-A is pretty clear: It's about as harmful as Tylenol.