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TKubik
Nov 11, 2008, 5:57 AM
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I heard the Red Rock was closed off this morning because a climber fell and they were evac'ing him/her. Has anyone heard anything about this? I can't find any news about it.
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TKubik
Nov 11, 2008, 4:52 PM
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A climber injured his head at red rock.
(This post was edited by TKubik on Nov 13, 2008, 1:25 AM)
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saxfiend
Nov 12, 2008, 1:27 AM
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TKubik wrote: It is now known that someone lost the contents of their think bucket at Red Rock yesterday. I know one of the search and rescue guys that picked him up, so more details to come.
JL
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ncrockclimber
Nov 12, 2008, 1:32 AM
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Agree 100%!! Show some respect!!
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Valarc
Nov 12, 2008, 1:40 AM
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Agreed. "Think bucket?" You're a fucking asshole.
My thoughts are with the loved ones of whatever unfortunate person this accident happened to, and I hope they never run into someone like the idiot who started this thread.
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TKubik
Nov 12, 2008, 11:51 AM
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Actually, the person is alive and stable. I was merely saying that they split their head open. Thanks for prejudging though. Good call there everyone.
EDIT: I would never disrespect anyone that lost there life in an unfortunate accident. I don't take things like that lightly. I'm sorry that people have misinterpreted/skewed my words.
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erclimb
Nov 12, 2008, 12:17 PM
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"misinterpreted/skewed"? dude you're skewed if you can't see, now, that your words were poorly chosen even if the guy didn't die, which you might have included in your first post
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Valarc
Nov 12, 2008, 1:42 PM
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My thoughts are still with the loved ones of the person who had the accident, and you're still a disrespectful prick.
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TKubik
Nov 12, 2008, 8:18 PM
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There fixed. Sorry I will be more dierct and up front in the future.
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jdefazio
Nov 12, 2008, 8:27 PM
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TKubik wrote: edited because I've offended people. Apparently saying that this climber fell and cracked his head open and his brains spilled out onto the ground is more appropriate than to use an indirect reference to such an event.
Maybe you should try again.
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Nov 12, 2008, 8:30 PM
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jdefazio wrote: TKubik wrote: edited because I've offended people. Apparently saying that this climber fell and cracked his head open and his brains spilled out onto the ground is more appropriate than to use an indirect reference to such an event. Maybe you should try again.
Agreed. I think just saying that there was a head injury would suffice.
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TKubik
Nov 12, 2008, 8:33 PM
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climbs4fun wrote: jdefazio wrote: TKubik wrote: edited because I've offended people. Apparently saying that this climber fell and cracked his head open and his brains spilled out onto the ground is more appropriate than to use an indirect reference to such an event. Maybe you should try again. Agreed. I think just saying that there was a head injury would suffice.
I also agree, that was the point I was making. I will change it now.
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GeneralZon
Nov 12, 2008, 8:34 PM
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If you don't have anything nice to say don't say it at all.
Well wishes to climber, friends, and family.
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onceahardman
Nov 12, 2008, 8:38 PM
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In reply to: Apparently saying that this climber fell and cracked his head open and his brains spilled out onto the ground is more appropriate than to use an indirect reference to such an event.
Dude, you are being a knucklehead.
Do you have a link to a report/news story, saying that a fellow climber's brain matter was on the ground, but that he/she is now "stable"? I'd be interested in knowing what actually happened, and what the injured's REAL condition is.
That's what I&A is for, not for "cute" euphemisms for horrific injuries.
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GeneralZon
Nov 12, 2008, 8:41 PM
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Did some searching, but could not find any info on the accident.
I did find this accident however:
http://www.wkyt.com/...dlines/33871489.html
This isn't the same accident you are referring to is it?
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GeneralZon wrote: Did some searching, but could not find any info on the accident. I did find this accident however: http://www.wkyt.com/...dlines/33871489.html This isn't the same accident you are referring to is it?
No. One took place just outside of Las Vegas and the other (your link) happened in Kentucky.
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Nov 12, 2008, 10:29 PM
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TKubit, when I go you have permission to make all the cracks, pun intended, about my demise/injury. My wife and I see no morbidness or disrespect when someone makes light of these happenings, just a sick sense of humor,which obviously we both have. However most citizens do not see things this way. So if my nuts or any other thing falls out have fun with it and tell everyone I said it was cool to do so. Sorry to hear of another head injury, hope for the best and will definitely want to know what happened so I do not end up like that. I hope they make a full recovery.
Bob
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Nov 12, 2008, 10:52 PM
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In reply to: TKubit, when I go you have permission to make all the cracks, pun intended, about my demise/injury. My wife and I see no morbidness or disrespect when someone makes light of these happenings, just a sick sense of humor,which obviously we both have. However most citizens do not see things this way. So if my nuts or any other thing falls out have fun with it and tell everyone I said it was cool to do so. Sorry to hear of another head injury, hope for the best and will definitely want to know what happened so I do not end up like that. I hope they make a full recovery. Bob
This goes for me too. Respect is for the living anyhow. Funny, huh? Someone gets hurt or dies, and everybody just drizzles "respect", but they're the same people most likely to disrespect a living person to their face over some idiotic issue like "bolts vs. trad", or "your crag dog looked at me".
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onceahardman
Nov 12, 2008, 10:55 PM
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In reply to: Respect is for the living anyhow
According to the OP, (story still entirely unsubstantiated), the injured is alive and stable.
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Tree_wrangler
Nov 12, 2008, 11:17 PM
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Not that I'm actually paying attention to the details (I don't care about the details of climbing accidents any more than I care about a Vegas car chase being reported on national news, for instance),
But I respect the injured. And will still have a chortle at his/her expense.
That's the thing with me.....hang with me and endure my humor.....but I'm a good sport too, and I'll not leave you high and dry.
Most of the folks that passionately sputter about respect when someone dies actually contribute to the misery of the living. Dead is gone. Living is still here and struggling. Who really needs the good word and a little support?
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TKubik
Nov 13, 2008, 12:59 AM
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onceahardman wrote: In reply to: Apparently saying that this climber fell and cracked his head open and his brains spilled out onto the ground is more appropriate than to use an indirect reference to such an event. Dude, you are being a knucklehead. Do you have a link to a report/news story, saying that a fellow climber's brain matter was on the ground, but that he/she is now "stable"? I'd be interested in knowing what actually happened, and what the injured's REAL condition is. That's what I&A is for, not for "cute" euphemisms for horrific injuries.
First of all, this thread was started to gather information about the accident. I didn't start this to make "cute euphemisms" (on a side not, I don't know where you are quoting cute from because I sure didn't say I was being cute, nor did I intend for it to be cute in any way), I was hoping that someone would have info regarding the accident. Mainly I wanted to know whether or not it was equipment/bolt failure, or mistake. I happen to know one of the search and rescue persons that performed the rescue. His girlfriend, one of my climbing partners, told me that there was brain matter spilled but, as of yesterday, he was doing fine. I have no link to the story because, as stated in the original post, I could not find anything.
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TKubik
Nov 13, 2008, 1:00 AM
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Tree_wrangler wrote: In reply to: TKubit, when I go you have permission to make all the cracks, pun intended, about my demise/injury. My wife and I see no morbidness or disrespect when someone makes light of these happenings, just a sick sense of humor,which obviously we both have. However most citizens do not see things this way. So if my nuts or any other thing falls out have fun with it and tell everyone I said it was cool to do so. Sorry to hear of another head injury, hope for the best and will definitely want to know what happened so I do not end up like that. I hope they make a full recovery. Bob This goes for me too. Respect is for the living anyhow. Funny, huh? Someone gets hurt or dies, and everybody just drizzles "respect", but they're the same people most likely to disrespect a living person to their face over some idiotic issue like "bolts vs. trad", or "your crag dog looked at me".
Thank you both.
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Nov 13, 2008, 2:44 AM
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Tree_wrangler wrote: In reply to: TKubit, when I go you have permission to make all the cracks, pun intended, about my demise/injury. My wife and I see no morbidness or disrespect when someone makes light of these happenings, just a sick sense of humor,which obviously we both have. However most citizens do not see things this way. So if my nuts or any other thing falls out have fun with it and tell everyone I said it was cool to do so. Sorry to hear of another head injury, hope for the best and will definitely want to know what happened so I do not end up like that. I hope they make a full recovery. Bob This goes for me too. Respect is for the living anyhow. Funny, huh? Someone gets hurt or dies, and everybody just drizzles "respect", but they're the same people most likely to disrespect a living person to their face over some idiotic issue like "bolts vs. trad", or "your crag dog looked at me".
Bill L
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onceahardman
Nov 13, 2008, 3:37 AM
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Ok, you weren't trying to be cute:
In reply to: someone lost the contents of their think bucket at Red Rock yesterday
Maybe "clever", or "funny", but not "cute".
Then:
In reply to: this climber fell and cracked his head open and his brains spilled out onto the ground is more appropriate than to use an indirect reference to such an event.
Now, if this is true:
In reply to: I happen to know one of the search and rescue persons that performed the rescue.
Why don't you contact that person, and have them post up something useful regarding this patient's condition? I couldn't find anything in the Vegas papers.
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Valarc
Nov 13, 2008, 3:42 AM
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billl7 wrote: It is not about the one who is dead. It is about the sensitivities of the living ones who have lost someone.
Well said.
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