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shockabuku
Apr 18, 2009, 6:00 PM
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scrapedape wrote: tenaya1 wrote: He's not an English teacher. Someone that posted a response said something about an English teacher. What grammatical error is in your post?: "It's racist to question an online profile that list someone as an English teacher when their post is rampant with grammatical errors? " Perhaps you could explain where exactly racism came into this.
It appears right here: http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2123511#2123511
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billcoe_
Apr 18, 2009, 6:08 PM
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These guys got stuck and were rescued. Maybe they would have gotten stuck had they not been drinking and smoking out, but in either case they sound stupid to me. I personally don't correlate pot smoking while climbing to being stupid as lots of my partners do and perform just fine, but waking up and drinking before and during a climb like this certainly is.
Just stupid.
Thanks for the story and the personal touch Trann.
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scrapedape
Apr 18, 2009, 7:38 PM
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shockabuku wrote: scrapedape wrote: tenaya1 wrote: He's not an English teacher. Someone that posted a response said something about an English teacher. What grammatical error is in your post?: "It's racist to question an online profile that list someone as an English teacher when their post is rampant with grammatical errors? " Perhaps you could explain where exactly racism came into this. It appears right here: http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2123511#2123511
Exactly. What is the basis for the claim that he's making?
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rockandlice
Apr 18, 2009, 7:47 PM
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scrapedape wrote: Exactly. What is the basis for the claim that he's making?
The eternal question. Pure stupidity perhaps?
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greenrocker
Apr 18, 2009, 8:15 PM
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Your post is weak and without detail. I was in the valley the night this happened. The story around camp was missing too many specifics for anyone to judge. Instead of flaunting your option on others behavior how about getting the full story before posting your judgment.
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climb_eng
Apr 18, 2009, 8:29 PM
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Thanh wrote: Three climbers were stucked on Lost Arrow in the notch because they spent the morning before climbing drinking and smoking pot. They also did not bring any head torches so when it got dark and they were still on the spire, got their rope stuck and had to spend the night in the notch. The next day, they were rescued by YSR. Anyone smoking pot and drink before climbing is and idiot and should win the Darwin Award.
There is no question about it, Marijuana or 'reefer' is ruining our sport. This menace, devil plant must be crushed into submission.
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randyb
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I hate when I get stucked....
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fxgranite
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climb_eng wrote: Thanh wrote: Three climbers were stucked on Lost Arrow in the notch because they spent the morning before climbing drinking and smoking pot. They also did not bring any head torches so when it got dark and they were still on the spire, got their rope stuck and had to spend the night in the notch. The next day, they were rescued by YSR. Anyone smoking pot and drink before climbing is and idiot and should win the Darwin Award. There is no question about it, Marijuana or 'reefer' is ruining our sport. This menace, devil plant must be crushed into submission.
My preferred method is to burn it...
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mecalekahi-mekahidyho
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I could see how drinking might have played a factor in their misfortune, however a daily smoker that gets high before a climb is not as affected as your average non smoker.
Placing pot smokers in this category just demonstrates your ignorance.
Its like taking advice about climbing from someone who has never roped up or bouldered in their life, its just stupid and uninformed.
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chadnsc
Apr 18, 2009, 10:37 PM
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zeke_sf wrote: climbsomething wrote: bill413 wrote: Oh, oh. shimanilami may be running out of climbing partners.  Maybe, but I can't seem to keep myself from quoting him in my sig. And I don't even know the guy. Oh great, you just made Chad perma-shit his pantz in rage.
Huh, what, who? I shit my pantz in a rage? Damn wht am I always the last to know?
Wait what was this thread about again?
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shockabuku
Apr 18, 2009, 11:27 PM
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scrapedape wrote: shockabuku wrote: scrapedape wrote: tenaya1 wrote: He's not an English teacher. Someone that posted a response said something about an English teacher. What grammatical error is in your post?: "It's racist to question an online profile that list someone as an English teacher when their post is rampant with grammatical errors? " Perhaps you could explain where exactly racism came into this. It appears right here: http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2123511#2123511Exactly. What is the basis for the claim that he's making?
Not being a member of any minority I'm not highly qualified to answer that but I suspect it's because you called into question the writing ability/skills of a college graduate who is some kind of teacher. I think it's reaching.
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rocknice2
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mecalekahi-mekahidyho wrote: I could see how drinking might have played a factor in their misfortune, however a daily smoker that gets high before a climb is not as affected as your average non smoker. Placing pot smokers in this category just demonstrates your ignorance. Its like taking advice about climbing from someone who has never roped up or bouldered in their life, its just stupid and uninformed.
I could see how drinking might have played a factor in their misfortune, however a daily crack smoker that gets high before a climb is not as affected as your average non smoker.
I could see how drinking might have played a factor in their misfortune, however a daily meth smoker that gets high before a climb is not as affected as your average non smoker.
I could see how drinking might have played a factor in their misfortune, however a daily junkie that gets high before a climb is not as affected as your average non shooter.
I could see how smoking pot might have played a factor in their misfortune, however a daily drinker that gets high before a climb is not as affected as your average non drinker.
I could see how a mind altering act might have played a factor in their misfortune, however not getting high before a climb is effective.
I have nothing against someone smoking or drinking but never on the other end of my rope. Come back to camp then blasted your brains to your hearts content.
There is a reason we have DUI laws. What makes CUI any different
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dudemanbu
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Methamphetamine is the most powerful performance enhancing drug that is readily available. You will climb at least a full number grade harder on meth.
rocknice2 wrote: mecalekahi-mekahidyho wrote: I could see how drinking might have played a factor in their misfortune, however a daily smoker that gets high before a climb is not as affected as your average non smoker. Placing pot smokers in this category just demonstrates your ignorance. Its like taking advice about climbing from someone who has never roped up or bouldered in their life, its just stupid and uninformed. I could see how drinking might have played a factor in their misfortune, however a daily crack smoker that gets high before a climb is not as affected as your average non smoker. I could see how drinking might have played a factor in their misfortune, however a daily meth smoker that gets high before a climb is not as affected as your average non smoker. I could see how drinking might have played a factor in their misfortune, however a daily junkie that gets high before a climb is not as affected as your average non shooter. I could see how smoking pot might have played a factor in their misfortune, however a daily drinker that gets high before a climb is not as affected as your average non drinker. I could see how a mind altering act might have played a factor in their misfortune, however not getting high before a climb is effective. I have nothing against someone smoking or drinking but never on the other end of my rope. Come back to camp then blasted your brains to your hearts content. There is a reason we have DUI laws. What makes CUI any different |
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rasoy
Apr 19, 2009, 2:58 PM
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Climbers stuck in the Lost Arrow notch.
R.C com is a nightmare of idiots sometimes.
The real factor of why this event happened was due to a very inexperienced member of their party. He had no clue of what to do after he made several terrible mistakes.
The mistakes he made were due only to his lack of climbing experience.
How do I know? I was the one of the guys who had to go get get his friends in the notch.
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scottek67
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chadnsc wrote: zeke_sf wrote: climbsomething wrote: bill413 wrote: Oh, oh. shimanilami may be running out of climbing partners. Maybe, but I can't seem to keep myself from quoting him in my sig. And I don't even know the guy. Oh great, you just made Chad perma-shit his pantz in rage. Huh, what, who? I shit my pantz in a rage? Damn wht am I always the last to know? Wait what was this thread about again?
bong-hogger
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billcoe_
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rasoy wrote: The real factor of why this event happened was due to a very inexperienced member of their party. He had no clue of what to do after he made several terrible mistakes. The mistakes he made were due only to his lack of climbing experience. How do I know? I was the one of the guys who had to go get get his friends in the notch.
OK, I'll bite: what mistakes (not counting getting fucked up on the way to the climb) did they make? Did they not leave a fixed line for jugging out and couldn't lead the climb that goes to the rim?
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puerto
Apr 19, 2009, 5:37 PM
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Climbers smoking weed??!! No fucking way, I donts believe you.
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59old_trad
Apr 19, 2009, 7:55 PM
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It's strange how stupid climbers get themselves into bad situations. I wonder if being under the influence has anything to do with it? Sort of similar to getting into a car when you already have one too many.
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areyoumydude
Apr 19, 2009, 8:45 PM
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Uh the first one day ascent of the nose was drug induced.
The abcd scale was hatched during an acid trip in the valley.
I and many others have drank and smoked their way up El Cap. Kinda like a vertical raft trip.
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angry
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rasoy wrote: The real factor of why this event happened was due to a very inexperienced member of their party. He had no clue of what to do after he made several terrible mistakes.
Several small mistakes and you end up benighted and a bit uncomfortable. It also makes the buffet taste pretty good when you finally finish.
Several terrible mistakes and someone dies.
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majid_sabet
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I have the complete list of racist climbers on this site. This list also includes the top 10 wabit haters.
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59old_trad
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Hey I wonder if you would get on an airplane knowing that the pilot has just smoked several joints and is flying high?
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59old_trad
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Hey, you made a good point about CUI. Seems like there are many climbers that appear CUI is ok...they're stupid to do so. Maybe the can climb a full grade harder, but they may also die off sooner.
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