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flanner
May 26, 2005, 12:36 AM
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Oh good, now tourons won't even have to climb the thing. Might as well sell "I stood on top of Everest and all I got was this lousy t-shirt" shirts on top. Just my opinion.
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cadreamin
May 26, 2005, 12:39 AM
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Any joker with the cash will be there now
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kubi
May 26, 2005, 12:45 AM
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are we still talking about Ken Nichols?
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jamescuth
May 26, 2005, 12:54 AM
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they'd better bulldoze and bitumen a nice big area so that the chooper can land safely and the souvenir store can be easily found..... .....might save a few lives though
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bandycoot
May 26, 2005, 1:01 AM
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They used the helicopter for rescues, and probably landed on the summit just to see if they could do it reliably. They didn't mention once that the thing would be used to ferry people to the summit. I think it's an impressive feat to have engineered such a helicopter. Props to the inventors! Now stop being such elitist weenies. :roll:
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cam
May 26, 2005, 1:42 AM
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The site linked in the top post reads more like an advert than a news report. I found no mention of how the pilot managed to survive the rapid elevation gain. Strange.
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climbsomething
May 26, 2005, 2:12 AM
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In reply to: They used the helicopter for rescues, and probably landed on the summit just to see if they could do it reliably. They didn't mention once that the thing would be used to ferry people to the summit. I think it's an impressive feat to have engineered such a helicopter. Props to the inventors! Now stop being such elitist weenies. :roll: Seriously. But those guys from Kansas City are already pretty indignant at the thought of "I climbed Everest" T-shirts. Can't put toothpaste back in the tube, now can ya? :lol:
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kman
May 26, 2005, 2:20 AM
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In reply to: The site linked in the top post reads more like an advert than a news report. I found no mention of how the pilot managed to survive the rapid elevation gain. Strange. It's called oxygen. Ever heard of it?
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shire
May 26, 2005, 2:27 AM
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thats too bad. for a long time i wanted to climb everest. ever since i was very little. it has slowly lost its novelty as hundreds summit every month and its just another thing you can do if you are rich. now a helicopter can land on top and one does not even have to rely on his body to make it...machines can do it...too bad
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bandycoot
May 26, 2005, 4:03 AM
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In reply to: thats too bad. for a long time i wanted to climb everest. ever since i was very little. it has slowly lost its novelty as hundreds summit every month and its just another thing you can do if you are rich. now a helicopter can land on top and one does not even have to rely on his body to make it...machines can do it...too bad That's a pretty pathetic view. Why do you care if someone landed a helicopter on top of the thing? Does that take away from YOUR accomplishment if you climb it? Is Messner's oxygenless ascent belittled by others doing it in a different style with bottled oxygen? I'd say it's even MORE impressive! If a helicopter landed on the summit of (insert name of cliff or mountain here) should everyone stop climbing it because they don't have to? I thought people climbed "because it's there" not "because a helicopter hasn't landed on it." By the way, what year did hundreds summit in december?
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kel_e
May 26, 2005, 5:12 AM
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so, is there any independant verification of this story, or is it just garbage?
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wjca
May 26, 2005, 1:00 PM
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In reply to: They used the helicopter for rescues, and probably landed on the summit just to see if they could do it reliably. They didn't mention once that the thing would be used to ferry people to the summit. I think it's an impressive feat to have engineered such a helicopter. Props to the inventors! Now stop being such elitist weenies. :roll: Don't be so naive. It'll happen. Ask the guy that was willing to pay the Russians $20 Million for a trip to space.
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cchildre
May 26, 2005, 2:18 PM
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I would prefer to have the Turons flying up in a chopper. Better than having them walk up the thing with sherpas hauling all their gear and trashing the place even more than it already is. Still it is cool that they have this done, it will have benefits world round. A helicopter capable of landing on Everst can do a lot more than that. Imagine landing on the summitt and getting a dead battery and getting stranded. Yikes.
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euroford
May 26, 2005, 2:48 PM
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cool, now we can use the heli to help put in the chair lift.
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boadman
May 26, 2005, 3:37 PM
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Why do people cave?
In reply to: In reply to: thats too bad. for a long time i wanted to climb everest. ever since i was very little. it has slowly lost its novelty as hundreds summit every month and its just another thing you can do if you are rich. now a helicopter can land on top and one does not even have to rely on his body to make it...machines can do it...too bad I thought people climbed "because it's there" not "because a helicopter hasn't landed on it." Because it's not there.
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bandycoot
May 26, 2005, 4:39 PM
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^^^ :lol: If people take helicopters to the summit, then they'll leave less trash. I say that might be an improvement.
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May 26, 2005, 4:54 PM
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Anyone want to go in on a partnership for an Everest Heli-Ski company? For pilots and engineery science type people, this is an incredible feat and and an obstacle overcome. For climbers it's a bit of a sad end to an era. Sure, we should all be more open to change, but you can't deny people's nostalgic feelings, and you really can't deny that this event will change things on Everest.
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iamthewallress
May 26, 2005, 4:57 PM
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It would be fantastic if the helicopter could be used to assist in clean ups.
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crotch
May 26, 2005, 5:24 PM
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Just a guess here, but chances are that the bird was stripped down to the minimum to fly that high. It's not at all clear that this helicopter could have made the same flight with the addition of a tourist payload. Still, you can bet that one day it will happen. If a "scene" bothers you that much, there are, and always will be, plenty of places to go where there are no helicopters, internet cafes, guided parties or satellite phones. Everest hasn't been that place for a while, though.
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zoebird
May 26, 2005, 5:52 PM
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i've never really had a desire to climb everest, but i have been disappointed by the state of the mountain since it because a tourist-type destination. "trashed" is a good word for it. I don't know if this is the case, but was 'carry in-carry out' ever followed on these sorts of adventures--even before the tourist trade? When i went to do kilimanjaro, i was lucky enough to take a back route, rather than the main route (tourist route) up the mountain. We walked down the other route, and i was greatly upset by the mess. It was incredibly trashed. Surprisingly, a lot of kenya was incredibly trashed. I found myself carrying out far more than i carried in. Similarly, after hiking in the white mountains and getting to Mt Washington, it was devestating being in the picnic area. After so many days of hiking in beautiful surroundings, sleeping in huts, and doing the 'carry in-carry out' situation, it was horrifying to see so much trash! OK, so back to thoughts--what is being done about the mess on everest? anything at all? Is it nepalese problem? Is there something that eco-outdoorsy types can do? anyone know of resources or web sites? I'd like to be part of that effort, even if i never do climb the thing. Also, i think the heli is a great thing for a number of reasons that others mentioned. I'd rather have tourists go up that way then climb it unprepared and die. Perhaps the climbing of Everest should be 'reserved' for those hwo are willing to work for it and prepare for it--rather than those who can pay for it and are not willing to perpare. Also, It would be great to use it for recues and possibly even clean ups. It is quite a feat of engineering.
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majid_sabet
May 26, 2005, 5:59 PM
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landed on 29000 feet ? may be they landed on base camp or camp 1 but not the summit.
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tradklime
May 26, 2005, 6:00 PM
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At first I though this was another thread about Ken Nichols. I was like, that dude gets around. If I can get a guide service to drag me to the top for 65K, I wonder how much the heli ride would be. 'cause the conventional method seems like a lot of work...
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tradnomad
May 26, 2005, 6:03 PM
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In reply to: landed on 29000 feet ? may be they landed on base camp or camp 1 but not the summit. They've been flying into base camp and camp 1 for years (at least since the 1970s)... read the article, they landed on the summit and the south col, and have flown to over 33000 ft in other test flights.
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