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snakeman
Jul 12, 2005, 1:53 AM
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I'm in a sticky situation here. I need to go climbing tomorrow afternoon but the only rope i have is the one my dad does towing with. It's definitely dynamic but not so much anymore. I left my new sweet tr rope with my friend over the weekend so I'm sorta out of luck....unless :( . Unless I use my pa's tow rope. I'm kind of nervous because its been sitting out under the porch since last fall. After inspection, besides being a little stiff, the only problem I detected was a bare spot near the middle. By bare i mean only the major strands are showing, none of the little ones, which I've heard is still kosher. Ive read some very interesting top secret articles (that the rope companies don't want you to see by the way) on the net that say you can pretty much spill battery acid or gasoline on your rope and it will be fine(pictures included for proof). Now, I don't want to be stupid and totally trust this web site, so some good advice would be pretty sweet. Has anyone here ever used a rope that has sat out through the winter, and/or been stretched out haulin' loads? We plan on doing some tr'n and maybe some gear climbing. Easy gear climbing if that makes a difference. Thanks
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spikeyhair13
Jul 12, 2005, 2:35 AM
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Granted i dont know crap, if poeple wont climb with webbing they used to slack line with, i am assuming a rope used to tow stuff with, wont be looked upon as safe, but as i said, i dont know crap.
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freeskicolorado
Jul 12, 2005, 2:45 AM
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Me, myself, personally, I wouldn't use it. I'd skip climbing, or go boulder instead. Why? For me, it's not worth risking my life (and my climbing partner's) because I don't know what condition the rope is in.
It's up to you to evaluate, and I don't have any experience with old, abused, stored-in-the-elements ropes, but things you may want to consider:
-What exactly is this rope? Is it a certified climbing rope?
-Just how old is it?
-Was it originally used for climbing? And if so, why did it get retired and relegated to tow rope?
-Just how much abuse has the rope been through?
-And finally, are every one of your partners willing to accept the risk posed by this old rope? Just because you may be confident in the rope's safety, one of your climbing partner's may not be. In which case, you should not use it.
I agree that you should not totally trust this website. I would also recommend that you don't entirely trust these top-secret articles you mention (I haven't seen them, so I can't really judge them). You mention they included photos as proof; keep in mind that any person with decent skills at Photoshop and a little free time can fake just about anything in a photo nowadays.
Jeff
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bandycoot
Jul 12, 2005, 2:47 AM
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Most blatant troll I've ever seen.
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zozo
Jul 12, 2005, 2:50 AM
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Ninjas can kill anyone they want! Ninjas cut off heads ALL the time and don't even think twice about it. These guys are so crazy and awesome that they flip out ALL the time. I heard that there was this ninja who was eating at a diner. And when some dude dropped a spoon the ninja killed the whole town. My friend Mark said that he saw a ninja totally uppercut some kid just because the kid opened a window.
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sbaclimber
Jul 12, 2005, 2:50 AM
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Your question sounds sincere, so I won't call TROLL, but I am sure someone probably will.
It is simply general knowledge, as proven by countless threads on this site, that you DO NOT climb, toprope or otherwise, on a rope that has been potentially exposed to damaging substances and/or shows signs of significant damage (i.e. the core is showing) :!:
Sorry, I cant say I have any experience with using damaged (potentially or otherwise) ropes for climbing, for good reason, I have chosen not to do it.
btw, there are plenty of "top secret articles" "proving" things known as conspiracy theories too. If you believe all of them, then you would probably believe that pouring battery acid on a rope won't damage it, otherwise THINK ABOUT IT :roll:
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hortisb
Jul 12, 2005, 2:54 AM
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Troll... he touched upon every reason that a rope would need to be retired.
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sbaclimber
Jul 12, 2005, 3:06 AM
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In reply to: Troll... he touched upon every reason that a rope would need to be retired.
I am changing my entire above post to: TROLL, TROLL, TROLL, TROLLYTROLLTROLL....
cant believe I missed that :oops: :roll:
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uberdb
Jul 12, 2005, 3:10 AM
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Total troll, but more importantly ....
Zozo, can a sport climber become a ninja ?!?!?! I must learn these totally rad flip-out skills !
DB
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hortisb
Jul 12, 2005, 3:12 AM
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What's worse then a troll? All of us wasting time talking about it.
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sbaclimber
Jul 12, 2005, 3:18 AM
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hortisb
Jul 12, 2005, 3:20 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: What's worse then a troll? All of us wasting time talking about it. I don't know about that......it all depends on how bored you are. (guess how bored I am :P )
That's true, I'm at work and bored out of my mind. So I guess we're justified.
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okie_redneck
Jul 12, 2005, 3:32 AM
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Forget what they've all said. Go ahead and use it. It's just incentive not to fall! If you have some gasonline, soak it in that. It'll bring the life right back into it.
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uberdb
Jul 12, 2005, 3:37 AM
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I've heard that lighter fluid will get it all nice and clean looking again ...
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8flood8
Jul 12, 2005, 3:44 AM
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hell tie a butterfly knot around the exposed core and then belay your mom on it, i'm sure she's fat and if she falls and breaks the rope, then you will know you shouldn't have used it
yes i'm also WAY bored out of my mind at work. hmmm 15 minutes to go...
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jt512
Jul 12, 2005, 3:57 AM
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Worst troll to date on this site.
-Jay
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tucsonalex
Jul 12, 2005, 4:17 AM
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Zozo, where can a young grasshoper like me go to learn to become a ninja?
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zozo
Jul 12, 2005, 4:22 AM
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In reply to: Zozo, where can a young grasshoper like me go to learn to become a ninja?
Dude if you need to ask the question you are so not ready. But Im in a giving mood soooo the answer is...............Ninja School, cuz it's sweet and they will teach you how to totally cut off someones head!
Awesome.
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okie_redneck
Jul 12, 2005, 4:39 AM
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That reminds me. What happened to the Holy Roman Order Of Normans? I was hoping to pledge, but it sort of went away. I'd say it's time for a revival!
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sharpshootr987
Jul 12, 2005, 4:43 AM
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I agree holy troll post.
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kpb
Jul 12, 2005, 4:46 AM
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In reply to: Forget what they've all said. Go ahead and use it. It's just incentive not to fall! If you have some gasonline, soak it in that. It'll bring the life right back into it.
Oh, more internet bullshit. Everyone knows you have to boil the gasoline first, to bring out the rope salvaging isotopes. If you use un-boiled gasoline to soak your rope, you'll die.
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uberdb
Jul 12, 2005, 4:53 AM
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Or at least thats' what they said at ninja school (but then, they only cover chemistry a little bit)
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hortisb
Jul 12, 2005, 7:28 AM
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I think we have all sunk to a new low.
And if this comment pushes this post to a third page, I'm going to be pissed.
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ajkclay
Jul 12, 2005, 1:26 PM
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In reply to: Zozo, where can a young grasshoper like me go to learn to become a ninja?
I have heard that Ninjas are so sweet they make some people want to crap their pants!
Truly!
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