I remember hearing the word "quickdraw" used in Yosemite in the 80s to refer to short tied runners carried on the rack with two biners already attached.

For the record Wide and gay is a term that one of my partners uses for hard wide cracks. he is verry fkn good at climbing them so INMOP he can call them whatever he wants 8^) It is certainly not meant as a slight to anyone of any alturnitive sexual persuasion. Dirtbrains wide rack does look too shiny to belong to a real climber though :lol:

Gee tardman, I guess I am not a real climber then. Too bad a few of my FAs are a higher grade than anything you have listed in your profile. I guess then if I am not a real climber, you must be something less.

YOU gotta work on your flamage pal, it's weak.

yes, you are truly clueless. ....

IT's true, Once in a While, you can clip directly or very short, without running the risk of screwing up the placement but most people don't really understand when that is. .

ha ha HA HA HA HA HA HA HA f---ing HAAAA!!!!

This piece of s--- was written by some f--- who has NO climbs listed in his profile so no-one can know how pathetic his dumb lying ass is!

And yet I bet he tries to say something about how he just hasn't posted them!

f--- off you lying piece of s---, if you have no climbs posted in your profile how the hell do you justify criticising someone who does? And before you bother playing with your dick by telling us that you really have climbed harder, how do you know that he has posted his hardest climbs, maybe he has just ticked the ones that are listed dickhead!

In fact, from looking at your profile, you have really contributed nothing to this website other than a load of s---... no personal climbs, no routes (which one would expect you would have if you had FA's, and anything positve to contribute), no gear (except a photo which could be of anyone's rack), no reviews, very average photos of one person climbing a 5.7 with no photos of you trying something so hard. You're more full of s--- than a 30 year old septic tank.

You say tradman's flames are weak, yours are based on lies and s---! That's not a flame, it's the ramblings of some needledick who thinks he can make up for shortcomings in the trouser department by pretending to be a hardman of climbing!

Edit: f---ing poser! Off to the killfile for you, I aint wasting any more of my time reading s--- from tosspots with nothing positve to add to this site.

ha ha HA HA HA HA HA HA HA f---ing HAAAA!!!!

This piece of s--- was written by some f--- who has NO climbs listed in his profile so no-one can know how pathetic his dumb lying ass is!

And yet I bet he tries to say something about how he just hasn't posted them!

f--- off you lying piece of s---, if you have no climbs posted in your profile how the hell do you justify criticising someone who does? And before you bother playing with your dick by telling us that you really have climbed harder, how do you know that he has posted his hardest climbs, maybe he has just ticked the ones that are listed dickhead!

In fact, from looking at your profile, you have really contributed nothing to this website other than a load of s---... no personal climbs, no routes (which one would expect you would have if you had FA's, and anything positve to contribute), no gear (except a photo which could be of anyone's rack), no reviews, very average photos of one person climbing a 5.7 with no photos of you trying something so hard. You're more full of s--- than a 30 year old septic tank.

You say tradman's flames are weak, yours are based on lies and s---! That's not a flame, it's the ramblings of some needledick who thinks he can make up for shortcomings in the trouser department by pretending to be a hardman of climbing!

Edit: f---ing poser! Off to the killfile for you, I aint wasting any more of my time reading s--- from tosspots with nothing positve to add to this site.

Looks like you've still got it Curt. This dude about blew a gasket.

that ain't no big deal :roll: half the punks fresh out of the gym crank harder than i do 8^) just because you are strong don't mean you know your feces :D these days i don't climb at all. I tore my rotator cuff again 2 weeks ago which is the only reason that i am even engageing in this drivel :roll: So since you are such a bad ass and s--- to use a draw what is the farthest out and most scetch piece you have ever hand drilled a bolt from :twisted:

Looks like you've still got it Curt. This dude about blew a gasket.

He is on my killfile though, I was serious about him being a dickhead, it's pretty irresponsible to be giving out advice about the safety of things which may cause someone to second-guess their own judgement next time they are climbing just for the sake of a troll.

I did the rotator cuff doing stupid people tricks off of a rope swing. can't get much more redneck than that unless you fall off a freaking tow truck :twisted: I would ventuer a guess that both of our current cranky dispositions are influenced by not being able to climb due to injurys :evil:

Hey dirtcurt,

I know alpnclmbr1. I have climbed with alpnclmbr1. alpnclmbr1 is a friend of mine. And you, sir, are no alpnclmbr1. You did quite a fine job of stirring the s--- up here, though. Nice. :lol:

Curt

....I love Loyd Benson parody quotes...

...I was cleaning a rather overgrown overhanging wet offwidth on lead. A friend swears it's at least 5.11.

At least 5.11! Wow, you must be hardcore.

If a person has plenty of slings I don’t see any reason why they would use draws.

God you are a moron. IT's precisely inexperienced climbers who get into trouble short clipping, which is what YOU are calling safe. safe it may be sometimes, but anyone who knows much knows that short clipped pieces walk, lift, and screw up in other ways. People hit the ground because they short clip when inadviseable.

A tripled sling is a fine thing to short clip with when you need to, and it has much greater versatility over the queer draw.

You wouldn't know a troll if one bit you on the ass.