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goclimbarock514
Aug 27, 2005, 8:10 PM
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I don't have any cams (hey i"m thirteen, no budget) but I am quite experianced for my age I am looking to buy the trango max cams but I would like any imput from all of the vertans out there who have had years to test thier gear.
Peace
keep climbing
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chanceboarder
Aug 27, 2005, 8:19 PM
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check out the gear review section. there are already a bunch of reviews on all the different cams. personally i like the new BD's better then the new Max cams.
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smithrockfreek
Aug 27, 2005, 8:22 PM
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what ever you do dont get the max cams...just kidding, i gata say (being your partner and all having to use your gear) get robots at climbaxe because there cheep for one (27.00$) and they're prettymuch the same thing as metoulous cams and 3cu's.
hint hint*
talk to ya later
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feanor007
Aug 27, 2005, 8:48 PM
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my lovely red alien
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dlintz
Aug 27, 2005, 10:14 PM
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Even though the bulk of my cams are Friends my favorite is the orange Metolius 4-cam....sometimes I sleep with it under my pillow. :P
d.
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furrymurry
Aug 27, 2005, 10:24 PM
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I've placed a fair diversity of cams and for larger stuff I've never used anything I like better than my camalots, though I've yet to use the new maxcams.
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crackmd
Aug 28, 2005, 12:16 AM
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For granite, Camelots are hard to beat.
For sandstone splitter rigid friends work great and they are much lighter than the older Camelots which matters when you are carrying up to 25 units on your rack.
Aliens are great for small, tweaky placements but can be hard to slam in in desperation because they are so floppy. In a real pinch when the clock is ticking, I would likely reach for a stiffer Metolius or BD small cam. Uh oh, I bashed Aliens; I'm in for it now from the Alien cult.
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mr8615
Aug 28, 2005, 12:22 AM
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If you're 'slamming' your cam in because you're in a hurry, let me know where you're climbing cuz I'll come get all of the cams you fix. That said, I love my number 2 camalots.
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crackmd
Aug 28, 2005, 12:27 AM
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In reply to: If you're 'slamming' your cam in because you're in a hurry, let me know where you're climbing cuz I'll come get all of the cams you fix. That said, I love my number 2 camalots.
That's happened once in 15-years bro. If you are going to push hard crack grades you will encounter some desperate placements.
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grk10vq
Aug 28, 2005, 12:54 AM
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See Four'z
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goclimbarock514
Aug 28, 2005, 1:10 AM
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In reply to: For granite, Camelots are hard to beat. For sandstone splitter rigid friends work great and they are much lighter than the older Camelots which matters when you are carrying up to 25 units on your rack. |
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tarzan420
Aug 28, 2005, 1:26 AM
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In reply to: I'm glad that somebody is buying the ridgid ffriends because I know that I'll never do it. I mean thier great for the perfect strait up and down place ment but you can't place them horizontally unless their in real deep and unless you put huge runner on 'em I found that they tend to walk like a B--ch
So what you're saying is, you have to place them properly in order for them to work right?
What a thought.
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tarzan420
Aug 28, 2005, 1:28 AM
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oh wow, didn't realize that you were the orig. poster...
I, for one, bought forged friends as my first cams, and they work great. I've never had a problem with them walking any more than any other cam - you just have to place them right.
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goclimbarock514
Aug 28, 2005, 1:54 AM
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Thanks for toning down the sarcasm because I'm young, c'mon I don't give a shit and if you're going to get in a fight because I don't like your kind of cam You shouldn't be telling people what kind of gear to get because all of you ideas are going to be totally bias and you may end up pissing off you partner and then you'll end up w no one to climb with, gee that'd be fun!
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chalkfree
Aug 28, 2005, 3:06 AM
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Mix it up, buy a bunch of old used gear from somebody that climbed 10 or 15 years ago, suppliment it with some new blems C4's on gear express, and it'll serve you wonderfully.
That said I love my pink tricam. If you don't have one buy two.
If that's not cam enough for you buy a .4 or .5 C4, I'd bet you've got little enough fingers to get yourself into trouble like me.
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tenesmus
Aug 28, 2005, 3:08 AM
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In reply to: If you're 'slamming' your cam in because you're in a hurry, let me know where you're climbing cuz I'll come get all of the cams you fix. That said, I love my number 2 camalots. |
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gunksgoer
Aug 28, 2005, 3:44 AM
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In reply to: what ever you do dont get the max cams...just kidding, i gata say (being your partner and all having to use your gear) get robots at climbaxe because there cheep for one (27.00$) and they're prettymuch the same thing as metoulous cams and 3cu's.
Have you ever used the metolius or dmm tcus? Rock empire cams seem like worthless scrap metal compared to them, aliens, friends, and camalots. I started piecing together my rack when i was 13, and i saved my money so i could get more expensive, but higher quality gear. Right now im really glad i did, because i really like my rack now.
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reno
Aug 28, 2005, 4:47 AM
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The one that caught my last trad lead fall is my favorite at the moment.
Currently, 0.5 WC Friend.
It might change, though.
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hairyapeman
Aug 28, 2005, 6:42 AM
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Never buy used gear unless you know the history of them and trust the user with your life! On that note... I love the C4's(BD Camalot's) but past the .4 i would go with the ball nutz. Don't be afraid of going expensive. I know i would never trust something that cost 24.95!(climbaxe...aka death wish) Is your life worth that much? Hell no! It's Worth way more. Buy one cam a month and try to find someone who has more to take you along.
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climbinginchico
Aug 28, 2005, 7:59 AM
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Past the .5 I go with aliens, not ballnutz. Easier to place and clean. Until you get to the tiny, microscopic shit. Then ballnutz it is.
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fng
Aug 28, 2005, 8:50 AM
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I bought a set of Pulsar cams from rock Empire. I have loved them. If I had to do it over I would by Rock Empire's new single stems with the looped draw/sling. I have a few of them and love them. Great gear at a great price!
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akrafty1
Aug 28, 2005, 2:45 PM
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Before you rule out the Forged Friends, you might want to check the forums on how to place them properly in horizontal placements using the tried and true Gunks tie-off. My rack is Forged Friends 1.75-4 and Aliens blue through purple. Lots of horizontal placements here in NC and this combo works great! My favorite cam is the 2.5 Friend by the way.
I also like BD cams and Metolius .The craftsmanship of the 4 manufacturers listed is fantastic. Remember newer does not always equal better, just newer and more money.
Climb On!
Shane
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mcfoley
Aug 28, 2005, 4:16 PM
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Camalots .75 to 2...
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muslmutt
Aug 28, 2005, 9:18 PM
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I just sold a bunch of cams I bought because they were cheap and other people liked them. They just were not as well made as my camalots,aliens, or friends. I bought 3 more aliens with the money. I find I climb a lot better when I place a cam and think "hell yeah" instead of "I hope this works." Above all I would really rather sink a bomber hex nut that is "oh fricken hell yeah!"
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crackmd
Aug 28, 2005, 9:26 PM
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Rigid stem #1.5 and #2 Friends rule when climbing hard splitters at Indian Creek. Go there and you will see what I mean. #0.75 and #1 Camelots also work quite well but are much heavier and this weight can add up when you have 25 CAMS on your rack (I have not used the new C4 units though). Variety is the spice of life! I have many sets of both.
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