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12volt_man
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Remember EB's RR's and "Shoe-nards" as cutting edge climbing shoes
Owned a Goldline
Used a swami because you couldn't afford a Whilans
Ever ate Rosarita refrieds, sardines and toberlone as a meal
Aren't convinced this new fangled Gore-tex is more than a fad
Wondered if The Beatles or Robbins, Harding and Chouinard would ever get back together
Ever drilled holes in your hexes
Use guidebooks older than college kids
Owned a wooden handled ice axe
Have an REI number that is six digits or less
Wore knickers, even once
Still call Joshua Tree "The Monument" (Ah, the Boom Boom Room!)
Think of climbing when you hear the words troll, dolt, forest or bong
Spent good money for rugby shirts with rubber buttons
Understand the difference between Norwegian and Goodyear
Bought webbing at the Army surplus
Still believe wool kicks ass over pile
Think an ice screw is an apres climb activity
8^)
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oldtradman
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And:
the only books were Basic Rockcraft and Advanced Rockcraft by Robbins and...what was it?...Knots & Slings for Climbers by Walt Wheelock. (Mountaineering.. was probably available but I know I couldn't afford it back then.)
How about top-roping on 3/8" white nylon from the hardware store. Hey, it had a tensile strength of 700 pounds and my buddy Fred was the big guy at 175!
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Dec 2, 2005, 5:54 AM
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I laughed myself good.
Remember EB's RR's and "Shoe-nards" as cutting edge climbing shoes
Couldn't afford them and climbed in sneakers or my Raichle hiking boots.
Owned a Goldline
First lead rope. I had read that "the leader must not fall". That's probably why I never led past 5.5 back then.
Used a swami because you couldn't afford a Whilans
Bought a Whilans in '84 when I took up ice. Before then? A six-wrap swami and some home-made leg loops. Remember: "The leader must not fall".
Ever ate Rosarita refrieds, sardines and toberlone as a meal
Toblerone, yes. The others? They did not sell them in my NJ town.
Aren't convinced this new fangled Gore-tex is more than a fad
Still not, though I own enough of it.
Wondered if The Beatles or Robbins, Harding and Chouinard would ever get back together
Heros!
Ever drilled holes in your hexes
Late '70's they came with holes. But I understand.
Use guidebooks older than college kids
I have 'biners older than the kids who work at the gym I go to.
Owned a wooden handled ice axe
Took up ice too late
Have an REI number that is six digits or less
Yes.
Wore knickers, even once
No. But I have rolled up my Gramicci pants.
Still call Joshua Tree "The Monument" (Ah, the Boom Boom Room!)
Out of my league. Bouldered there in '96, however.
Think of climbing when you hear the words troll, dolt, forest or bong
Those words bring a lot of thoughts to mind...
Spent good money for rugby shirts with rubber buttons
Yes. Still like old-school style rugby shirts.
Understand the difference between Norwegian and Goodyear
See "Raichle", above.
Bought webbing at the Army surplus
REI mail-order ruled!
Still believe wool kicks ass over pile
Do I really have to choose?
Think an ice screw is an apres climb activity
Yes and no.
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12volt_man
Dec 2, 2005, 2:18 PM
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Forogt about the old leader must not fall credo.
:lol:
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As a late bloomer baby-boomer, I started climbing a year ago. I can't relate to the climbing-specific nostalgia. But I'd like to add:
Wonder if: After the kids are put through college, can I buy a '62 right-hand drive LandRover and dirt-bag 'til the day I die, or the Stones stop touring, whichever comes first.
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Got a very strange tan while wearing fishnet long underwear...
Or, a little later...
How many pairs of white painter pants did YOU wear out? (Not a big problem, though. They were really cheap at the Surplus store)
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Climbed with Vibram Lug soled boots
Can tie a bowline around your waist (in less than 5 seconds)
Tying in meant tying the rope around your waist... then came swiss seats. Woohoo.
Got rope burns on your back from belaying.
Got rope burns on your shoulder from rappeling(sp?)
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Owned "Kronhoffers"
Or put the chaulk in your pocket.
Did "the dine and dash"
Or if you know how to seperate the "stems and seeds." :lol: :lol:
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Dec 3, 2005, 1:37 AM
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
Painter pants had that handy hammer loop too.
Good stuff people, keep it coming...
Let me see,
Can quote Gaston Rebuffant
Remember that Mesner/Habler were actually climbing the Eiger when Clint Eastwood was filming there
Was moved by National Geographic's cover of Rowell and Bridwell
Wondered what GPIW was thinking when they came out with Foamback
Subscribed to, or at least bummed copies of, Summit or Off Belay
Tried to use a Sticht-Plate with Goldline
Shopped at Holubar
Had "Frostline" clothing
8^)
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sewed a leather patch on the shoulder of a ventile anorak for dufersitz. know how to make a carabiner brake rappel system. ever owned a brake bar or stich link. ever pounded in a warthog. climbed Big Columbia in Lowa boots. owned a jensen pack or bombshelter tent. remember MSR ice axes. remember when the rateing system ended at 5.10.
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sewed a leather patch on the shoulder of a ventile anorak for dufersitz. know how to make a carabiner brake rappel system. ever owned a brake bar or stich link. ever pounded in a warthog. climbed Big Columbia in Lowa boots. owned a jensen pack or bombshelter tent. remember MSR ice axes. remember when the rateing system ended at 5.10.
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cosmiccragsman
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Yes, to all the above rememberences. And,
I also remember Oliver Moon! LOL
Cosmiccragsman
(An Old Geezer Joshua Tree Monument local)
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skinner
Dec 3, 2005, 3:10 AM
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You still wear your 3lb Joe Brown foam-filled, fiberglass Helmet
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Your first rack was all pins and many of those were maleables (I still have it).
An example of your first commercial haul sack can be seen at Neptunes in Boulder on display as an artifact.
Your kids think your old primus stove is scary and dangerous looking.
You still have a pair of Hivernale's that fit.
You occasionally pull out the old Forest Hammock just remind yourself how "comfy" it really was not to mention the old Harding Bat Tent.
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Had Rock and Ice number #1 and all the North America Climber magazines.
Inspired by "The White Spider"
Still have 2 rugby shirts with rubber buttons and a red and blue stripped sailor's shirt.
Drilled my hexes like I did the brake levers on my bike (both pretty stupid ideas)
Had full set of Titons.
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So 12voltman I still have a fine example of a Holubar Colorado Down Parka, Gerry carabiners, and an original Lowe Alpine Systems Pack. though they gather dust I wouldn't part with them... too many formative years memories. 8^)
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If you truly know that bouldering can in fact be done alone, and (gasp) without a beenie. :shock:
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Dec 3, 2005, 10:18 PM
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If you showed Fred Beckey the ropes....
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grk10vq
Dec 3, 2005, 10:30 PM
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you might be a baby boomer climber if your name is:
12volt_man
oldtradman or
late_starter
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12volt_man
Dec 4, 2005, 10:19 PM
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In reply to: So 12voltman I still have a fine example of a Holubar Colorado Down Parka, Gerry carabiners, and an original Lowe Alpine Systems Pack. though they gather dust I wouldn't part with them... too many formative years memories. 8^)
Indeed!
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oldsalt
Dec 4, 2005, 11:29 PM
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Another Boomer come late to climbing...
I still wear knickers when I solo; my much younger partners won't leave the car with me wearing them.
You didn't have to climb to sort seeds and stems. Anyway, sorting was to impress a babe, it all burned eventually.
Boomers... We grow older, but we never grow up!
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Have held a leader fall on a goldline with a hip belay, (and have the scars to prove it.)
Still think the stance is as important as the anchor.
Fiberglassed your Kletershoe toes, (beacuse rubber rands weren't available yet)
Owned a pair of Robbins blue suede boots.
Know what an oiled wool sweater is, (bonus if you still own one and the moths haven't eaten it)
Climbed or partied with a Stonemaster
Know What RCS means and had met most of them one time or another at Lunch Rock.
Climbed when it was common courtesy to not jump on a route adjacent to an occupied line and find something out of sight and earshot.
Know what a good pin sounds like.
Made your own nuts.
Don't really trust gear with moving parts and springs.
Used a Bota Bag instead of a Camelback.
Saved the seeds.
Still can't pass up a good thread, (around a chockstone that is)
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oldrnotboldr
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-Still have a couple of peices of goldline laying around.
-In reply to: Know what a good pin sounds like
In reply to: I still wear knickers when I solo
I'm a boomer too, but I never wore knickers,,never. They were/are just a bit too much for me. I had a partner once that wore them, laughed at him too!
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Dec 5, 2005, 6:43 PM
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You might Be a Baby Boomer Climber if You: have any idea what MOACs and baby MOACs are
In reply to: I still wear knickers when I solo
We used to have the annual spring "knicker only" alpine trip, that made for some great B&W photo's :D
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Dec 5, 2005, 6:57 PM
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:lol:
guess u guys about covered it. got the painter's pants.
How about the 2" webbing for a swami (dat 2" blue sur did look good with my painter's pants)or make a harness from 1" webbing.
and it's Not...Trad climbing...it's Free climbing dammit
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Dec 5, 2005, 7:01 PM
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Complain and whine about not having your pills
Denounce the younger generation for not being passionate enough (the same people you made vacant, hollow beings by force-feeding us ritalin)
Continue to believe the myth that you never have to "grow up," that you are still hip and cool and with it
Believe that JFK was a good person
Hold back progress by not giving young people opportunities to express their idealistic drive and motivation, a blatant hypocrisy since you fought for such opportunities when you were young, but now that you're old, you act exactly like the people you once rebelled against because young people continue to support your self-indulgent lifestyles with a) social security b) the minimum wage jobs you give ivy-league educated people who have no chance of ever paying off their over-priced education (sorry, meaningless title promotions doesn't help)
See Bono on the ipod commercials and feel young
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Dec 5, 2005, 7:20 PM
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A bit young to be so bitter aren't you?
Are you off your ritalin again?
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oldrnotboldr
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In reply to: We used to have the annual spring "knicker only" alpine trip, that made for some great B&W photo's
How about posting a couple of photos?
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oldsalt
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In reply to: Complain and whine about not having your pills Denounce the younger generation for not being passionate enough (the same people you made vacant, hollow beings by force-feeding us ritalin) Continue to believe the myth that you never have to "grow up," that you are still hip and cool and with it Believe that JFK was a good person Hold back progress by not giving young people opportunities to express their idealistic drive and motivation, a blatant hypocrisy since you fought for such opportunities when you were young, but now that you're old, you act exactly like the people you once rebelled against because young people continue to support your self-indulgent lifestyles with a) social security b) the minimum wage jobs you give ivy-league educated people who have no chance of ever paying off their over-priced education (sorry, meaningless title promotions doesn't help) See Bono on the ipod commercials and feel young
Whoa! I'm older, but not combative. I'm not taking exception with what you say, just surprised that you are describing many of my parents' generation. Please don't lump us all in the same boat, anymore than saying that all of "you" are just alike.
I despise the widespread use of ritalin, and I agree with your unwritten message that it is often used for the parents' benefit rather than the childs. Many people my age (55) were thrown out of their homes by their Greatest Generation parents. I was. I have spent much of my professional life encouraging the next generation to act and think freely and creatively.
I'm sorry that you haven't had better role models to represent us old farts.
Now, where the hell are those Omega fish oil capsules?
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yosemite
Dec 6, 2005, 1:20 AM
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Refugee,
What has anyone said that threatens/angers you?
Gene
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Good one grey,
...look at rocks without chalk and fixed pro and actually get on them and think it's the best deal on Earth even if you epic hard.
...only use guidebooks in stores and then only for directions to the crag.
...think it's no sweat to climb without chalk.
...can lead routes with no cams.
...can stacked hexes at least two different ways.
...can climb and take dives all day on hard multipitch routes with no harness, belay device, or locking biners.
...think it's fun to climb without seven other "comfort" partners.
...lead trad within one grade of your TR ability.
...rope solo trad routes within one grade or at your trad ability.
...have placed two Crack 'N Ups in a row (or know what one is...)
...have duct taped your rope several times before retiring it to setting up TRs.
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This thread reminds me of how much of my original stuff I still have:
Stitcht plate, Goldline (1973), my Frostline 60-40 parka (sewed it myself in 1974, couldn't afford the ventile jobbie. I LIVED for Frostline gear in college), Gerry down bag (possibly late 60's), Holubar/Stubai ice axe (OK I bought this used, but it replaced my wooden Stubai that I got in "72), Woolrich kickers (I still fit in them too!), I'm still wearing the Peter Storm oiled wool sweater but have retired the Woolrich Malone pants (amazing cold weather pants, but weigh about 8 lbs). The 1 inch tubular that was my first set of runners became etriers that I still have. I made a couple of my own nuts, one of which I still have. EB's were my THIRD pair of climbing shoes. I upgraded from Fabiano Black Beauties. Still using my Optimus 8R (1972). Took a factor 0.98 fall in my tied harness (no problem).
OK, that's enough. I have to lie down and take a nap now...
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In reply to: Refugee, What has anyone said that threatens/angers you? Gene
He's just jealous that our generation snagged all the good lines before he was born
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Right on! Oops, guess that shows my age as well. 8^)
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Did a hanging bivy, for practice, under Thin Slabs Direct at the Gunks in 1971. That includes the haul bag filled with food, beer etc.
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In reply to: Hold back progress by not giving young people opportunities to express their idealistic drive and motivation
that's funny!!! I'm no boomer, but I've yet to meet these young people...
In reply to: the minimum wage jobs you give ivy-league educated people who have no chance of ever paying off their over-priced education
shoot, you strayed from adolescent angst to victim here...oh no, wait, you were always the victim. Why don't you use some of that idealistic drive/motivation and go change the world, kiddo?
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Had a Gerry frame pack, soft iron pitons, and steel oval carabiners.
Went down goldline in a deep cave pit and later spun in nauseous circles prussiking up while it untwisted. Being careful not to burn the rope with your carbide head lamp.
Remember when you could pick up firewood around Camp 4.
Repeat from earlier post: Climbed recently with Chouinard carabiners older than your climbing partner, in a wool sweater older than your climbing partner.
Have ever put in a piton half way up a lieback.
Never owned chaulk.
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In reply to: remember MSR ice axes
Remember? Hell, I still use them: a long handled Eagle for glacier travel and a short T-bird for technical ice. In my other hand is a Forrest Mollnar.
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Remember when Markwell sold gear out of the back of a VW bus,and when 10 people at Seneca for the weekend was "busy."
1 inch tied swami belts,then two inch...
Steel crabs and pins.
Know how to tie a bowline on a bight...and have actually used it!
Still have a pair of Beau Brummels around somewhere.
Can still lead 5.8 with just a rack of stoppers.
Still have nerve damage from spending too much time in a hammock...
Wondering if your inability to have children is connected to all those long falls in a Whillans harness!
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In case you missed'em in the belaying thread...
(This post was edited by healyje on Feb 25, 2010, 6:27 AM)
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If you ever used Dolt Trunuts or Forrest Foxheads.
When chalk was controversial
And I can remeber my partner pointing out one the local hardmen at Quincy Quarries and saying, "That's Ajax Greene; he leads 5.9
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...can remember when the blue and purple pills were barrels and microdot, not Viagra and Nexium and essentially cured the same problems...
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... insulite, not thermarest.
... grungy cutoffs, not day-glo spandex.
... glissading freaked out the old farts.
... svea, not MSR, stoves.
... ever got 3rd degree burns on your lips from the dumbest invention ever - the Sierra cup.
... 1/4 of your rack was pro for cracks > 3".
... ever thought using Friends was cheating.
... belay devices were ALL just added weight.
... girls NEVER lead the crux pitch.
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:mrgreen:
Ah, Sveas! A controled Molotov cocktail.
Clean climbing was high ethic.
Ethics were important.
The only "gym" climbers you knew spelled their name with a J.
Whymper was a climber and not what your second did.
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Now, what's really amazing for me is that every time i climb with Larry DeAngelo, I get to live about 3/4 of this thread! :D
(of course, I've also reaped the benefits- i dont use chalk, i can lead without cams, i've taken a whip or two on lead with my belayer using only his hip and a smile, and i enjoy using doltnuts, titons, and knotted slings for pro!)
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Who has some Tube Chocks?
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respectful son of a boomers says:
This is possibly the greatest thread I have ever read :lol:
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First climber I read about in a publication.
Sir Edmund in the Sears & Robuck catalog.
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You were thrilled by the comfort of a Forrest single point hamock over the Chouinard Pea Pod.
1/4 inchers were bomber.
Have hung on a drill bit with a #2 stopper as a hanger.
Could quote Firesign theater.
Everything is turning blue.
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In reply to: Who has some Tube Chocks?
8^) Right here 8^)
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Ummm, think that painter's pants, rugby shirts and ebs are too new school.
Got tossed out of the shop next to the post office because your partner lit
up.
know what seeds actually are,
lead the gendarme naked, THEN realized you couldn't
duffler off.
actually dufflered as common practice.
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thegreytradster
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You know how to spell Dulfer :wink:
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mesomorf
Dec 20, 2005, 3:55 AM
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...were in Camp 4 when you heard the rumor that "Long and a couple of kids" had climbed the East Face of the Column FREE. And renamed the route!
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oldtradman
Dec 22, 2005, 4:10 AM
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Have a Justrite headlamp with that big honkin' 4 D-cell battery pack...like the one that's on the back seat of my Explorer!
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powair
Dec 22, 2005, 6:26 AM
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I'm the son of a babyboomer pit caver
1. We still have a full length Goldine rope (dad still thinks its bomber)
2. I still use 2" webbing harness (well, i did...until last year)
3. Carbide is amazing (dont melt your rope!)
4. I still use the Justrite 4d battery pack lite
Army Greenline is Hi-Tek
Think Gibbs acenders are way cooler then CMI's or Jumars
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squierbypetzl
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Dec 22, 2005, 7:00 AM
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Sorry to take you away from your rocking chairs, but what´s duffler/dulfer?
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cpm
Dec 22, 2005, 7:33 PM
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In reply to: Sorry to take you away from your rocking chairs, but what´s duffler/dulfer?
A duffler is an old fart can't spell dulfer :) Is also slang in some circles for the Dulfer body rappel. Hans Dülfer was a turn-of-the-last century bergsteiger/alpinist most excellent rad fellow. Came up with wierd ideas like decent belays, retrieveable ice screws, a way of rapping line around the body so that when clad in wool, you could free descend in good control.
In short, it's a body rappel. Like a body wrap, only different ;)
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kings_peak1
Dec 22, 2005, 9:08 PM
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colorful spandex
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oldtradman
Dec 23, 2005, 2:08 AM
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And another 10 if you can name the guy on the front of Basic Rockcraft. I'm 99.9% sure I can.
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thegreytradster
Dec 23, 2005, 2:24 AM
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Tom Frost
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oldtradman
Dec 23, 2005, 2:38 AM
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greytradster,
Thanks for confirming that I do have a couple of brain cells left!
Edited because I was too dense to use the spell check the first time around. Comfirming?
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mugwa
Jan 14, 2006, 3:27 AM
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...you might be a boomer if... you wore Whitney's with a cast-iron midsole; your Levi's were so heavy they stood up in the corner, you had to make your own ice-ax to get into a club, you were careful not to get caught with ya knicka's down, you still have your Holubar Ultimate bag a half-bag parka and two "man" tent with snow tunnel, women stayed home and worried that you might get killed...ooga-booga
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blocx
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In reply to: Sorry to take you away from your rocking chairs, but what´s duffler/dulfer?
Dulfer is actually spelled Duelfer or Dulfer with two dots above the U, however, in English language this vocal is not used, hence the adaption into Dulfer. Hans Duelfer was the first to come up with the lay-back technique, and in German this technique is still called "Duelfer" or "Duelfering".
Another guy who practiced this technique at about the same time was the Italian Mountain Guide Giovanne Battista Piaz, so some refer to the same technique as "Piaz" or "Piazing".
Duelfer or "Sachsen-Seat" is also the word for a body rapelling technique invented by Hans Duelfer.
When I was a child my Father tought me this technique and we actually used it till the late 70ties. Its actually not a bad thing to know how to Duelfer, as it still could be used in worst case szenarios
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12volt_man
Jan 23, 2006, 12:33 AM
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In reply to: ...you might be a boomer if... you wore Whitney's with a cast-iron midsole; your Levi's were so heavy they stood up in the corner, you had to make your own ice-ax to get into a club, you were careful not to get caught with ya knicka's down, you still have your Holubar Ultimate bag a half-bag parka and two "man" tent with snow tunnel, women stayed home and worried that you might get killed...ooga-booga
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I would add: If you remember when Eddie Bauer was an outfitter.
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healyje
Jan 23, 2006, 7:01 AM
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If you remember when the clothes from Abercrombie & Fitch made LL Bean look like Banana Republic...
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heximp
Mar 24, 2006, 6:23 AM
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"Laughing so hard I fell out of my chair."
Too young to be a boomer, but old enough to appreciate my elders. I am lucky enough to be taught by a few "old school" climbers. They all insisted that I climb with only passive gear for my first year. "Best teachers a Girl can have."
The years must have mellowed them; they did let me lead the crux.
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t0mhans0n
Mar 31, 2006, 5:31 PM
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I still have my Chouinard laminated bamboo piolet, Kronhoffers, warthogs, original stoppers and hexes, Clog, Peck, and Troll unslung "chocks", Joe Brown helmet, bongs.
I still use the piolet, considered by many to be the best ever made.
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franko
Apr 2, 2006, 8:56 PM
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Remember Trapper Nelson backpacks. Bonus points if you actually carried one.
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oldandintheway
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This deserves a "Bump" in my not so humble opinion
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curt
Nov 17, 2008, 6:25 AM
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Hey, I climb with people who still only tie-in with swami belts, but now at least allow themselves the luxury of using the more comfortable 2" stuff.
Curt
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Great bump!
I met Chouinard and Rick Ridgeway in the Tetons. They were guiding (no shit, I swear it's true) Tom Brokaw.
We all rode the Jenny Lake boat together to Cascade Canyon.
Have led ice with warthogs, when hollow ice screws were new.
Have led ice with the old, cylindrical-head, tube pick, Hummingbirds.
I still have a pair of old EBs kicking around. Women's size 8, they belonged to an old gf.
Have placed forrest Titons on lead.
Bought a #4 green tricam when they very first came out. 8 bucks. No lightening hole.
Used a Ruapahu as a belay/rappel device. Looked like an ancient fertility idol.
Still use a spring sticht plate.
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Nov 20, 2008, 9:26 PM
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You might be a baby boomer climber if you still have Terrordactyls in your equipment box - and a set of permanently swolen finger joints ...
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oldandintheway
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[quote "mugwa"]...you might be a boomer if... you wore Whitney's with a cast-iron midsole; your Levi's were so heavy they stood up in the corner, you had to make your own ice-ax to get into a club, you were careful not to get caught with ya knicka's down, you still have your Holubar Ultimate bag a half-bag parka and two "man" tent with snow tunnel, women stayed home and worried that you might get killed...ooga-booga[/quote]
Indeed!
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Adk
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...and those shirts with rubber buttons. Talk about a way to piss you off first thing in the morning.
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oldandintheway
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Your old partner's grand kids are now climbing.
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oldandintheway
Feb 24, 2010, 7:06 AM
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Bump
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airscape
Feb 24, 2010, 9:20 AM
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I like this thread.
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airscape
Feb 24, 2010, 9:38 AM
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If you went to the drive-in with your Dad and came home with your Mom.
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dan2see
Feb 24, 2010, 1:19 PM
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airscape wrote: If you went to the drive-in with your Dad and came home with your Mom.
I went to the drive-in alright. I was the dad.
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Man you guys are old...Well, older than me:) I started at the age of 12, ~1980. Used EBs then Fire then La Sportiva. Used a 1 " swami then REI harness. Hip belay with rope burns. Started out with a rope from my dad's garage.
Is it bad, I climbed in those shoes this weekend--the ones in the picture? I wish I took pictures as a kid. This is the only pic I have from ~ 1989 at Emeral Bay.
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Ain't any doubt about it...I am a Baby Boomer; IN FACT, the Dad's office buddies named him Boomer the day after I was Boomed.
I was born under Mt. Shasta.
I have climbed it with those glacier goggles with rubberized bands around your head and 2 holes molded in front for the metal disks with slits in them. POS garbage. REI stupid buy #2.
The old classic shot on the NA Wall with the Quad 4s? They're all snugged up in string hammocks? Have you never had the experience of trying to set one up on a wall less than overhung and try to get comfortable? Then you're no BB. And that was stupid buy from REI #1.
Ever had a pair of Galibier friction boots made in the same shade of blue rough-out suede as 'RRs' and flashy red panels on the sides and called 'BBs'? Which happen to be my real initials, BTW. Loved them, then came the Fires.
Ever had a ripstop North Face Sierra Parka, before they started making one with 60/40 and were only available in Forest Green, Navy Blue, and Chianti Wine?
Ever own a pair of Nike running shoes called Waffle Trainers?
Did you ever get to drive a vehicle thru the loop in Camp Four?
Have you ever been to Lover's Leap and had your pick of lines, no waiting, in July or August?
Do you remember Degnan's Irish Soda Bread loaves, hot out of the oven?
Did you ever sew leather sides on to your EBs so they wouldn't wear thru in the uppers from rubbing in cracks?
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oldsalt
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Nike Waffle Trainers....a few thousand miles, a half-marathon, and a right hip ago. I understand that the first pairs were actually cured on a waffle iron.
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oldsalt
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Knickers...first time outdoors in 2003. Fortunately, we did not encounter any other climbers that trip.
Knickers...second time outdoors in 2004. I can still hear the howls of laughter when I showed the pictures back in the gym.
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Grodny
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I am Baby Boomer Climber and can not find a Baby Boomer Climber, any recommendation?
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Old school = knickers and knee socks, three wraps of the goldline around the waist and a bowline tie-in, EBs and a four-finger bag of dope. Didn't realize routes were recorded in "guide books" until ten years after I started.
First time I set a cam for pro I dove for a piton lower down when I fell. Damn thing held but I realized I put it where my best hand jam would fit. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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