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jono13
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So, what do you all think she is? A new breed of the teeny bop? A new britney spears, just masked in try hard punk clothing? Or is she ACTUALLY original, and not a teeny bop, sell out untalented etc? My vote, shes a new breed of the teeny bop. I mean, she dresses like she should be singing REAL punk, but we get this cheesy hardcore wannabe songs that are not punkish AT ALL! sheesh, the pop punkers are taking over. God save us all from Lavigne, Sum 41, Blink 182, Greenday. *shudders*
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cass
Aug 29, 2002, 1:53 AM
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404 TAFN TTFN
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jono13
Aug 29, 2002, 1:54 AM
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ok then....
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fiend
Aug 29, 2002, 2:09 AM
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NO RULES
You gotta do what you gotta do
sometimes you eat what's in front of you.
Yeah so we'll drink a beer or two
it's not what you say it's what you do
no rules it's not what you say
it's what you do. Were not "nailed to theX"
or swill in the gutter we just follow
our hearts from one moment to
another punk is this and punk is that words
are lame and words are crap
inhibitions repressed and correct,
vegan reich? what the heck! no rules!
it's not what you say it's what you do.
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matt
Aug 29, 2002, 2:45 AM
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Quote:
404 TAFN TTFN
what does that mean?
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pushfurther
Aug 29, 2002, 2:48 AM
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avril lavigne is the new celine dion.
canadian singer with no real substance, and she's not that cute, either.
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colin
Aug 29, 2002, 2:51 AM
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but things are so complicated.
and she's the chick for the job.
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fiend
Aug 29, 2002, 2:55 AM
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Anyone with a video that gets regular airtime is punk as f---.
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matt
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naw, she can't be celine; she hasn't screwed her manager (who's waaaay older than her) while she's 16 and on the road.
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Aug 29, 2002, 3:59 AM
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I was watchign this sort of interview thing with avril lavigne on the news a while back. And she said that she doesn;t want to beknown as liek a punk skater (or vice versa), butyet,they were doing the interview from the big skatepark in calgary, where she had in her hands a skateboard. I'm sorry, bt it made absolutely no sense to me, I mean some of her other songs aren;t bad, but complicated is starting to get on my nerves. Just my thoughts.
Brittany
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fiend
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I wanna see her ride the damn thing.
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diarmid
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From what I understand she writes and performs her own music, that has to be commended I should think. Haven't seen the video so can't say as I've seen her, but I heard the song, that and this one called 'gimme the light' by some guy named Sean Paul, and I like them ...
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pushfurther
Aug 29, 2002, 4:48 AM
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writing trite music should not be commended.
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metoliusmunchkin
Aug 29, 2002, 7:51 AM
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Avril Levigne is about as punk as Michael Jackson!
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i admire anyone that can write and preform their own songs. she sucks up all the criticizm and all the crap that people throw at her. i think shes not like brittany or celine, shes herself just trying to do what she likes. at least shes modest, and doesnt have to show off all of herself just to get fans. i admire her for that too. writing songs is really hard, i must admit. and writing music to go with it is hard too. she has a telent, whether people recognize it or not.
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cass
Aug 29, 2002, 10:04 AM
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404 = i haven't a clue
never heard of her, her bio does say she is a skater punk so...
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missedyno
Aug 29, 2002, 2:55 PM
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i am sooooo glad i have no idea what this is about...
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fiend
Aug 29, 2002, 3:02 PM
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Hahaha! she has a record contract and none of you do!
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xen_monkey
Aug 29, 2002, 3:32 PM
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I have a record contract!
No wait, thats a contract on my head. Damn Fat Tony
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spank_spank
Aug 29, 2002, 3:34 PM
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I wouldn't kick her out of bed.
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fiend
Aug 29, 2002, 6:29 PM
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I heard Jimmy Eat World perform a live song on KROQ at the Weenie Roast and they sucked live. I hate it when bands can't actually sing live, although they may have just been having a bad day. I saw Sum41 several times before any of you knew who they were and they kicked ass. Then I saw them on Warped last year and they had the most awful performance I've seen in a long time.
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jono13
Aug 29, 2002, 6:38 PM
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Greatest live bands of all time: Matthe Good Band, Dave matthews band, Radiohead.
worst: sum 41, blink 182, avril lavigne. blah
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metoliusmunchkin
Aug 29, 2002, 6:46 PM
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I think we'd all have to agree that the worst band live is NO FX...
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daisuke
Aug 29, 2002, 7:36 PM
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you all got me interested with this topic.
music is something like a cross between dido and blink 182, altho I do think she is better than the sum of the parts, dido is too monotonous and blink 182 is too stupid and punk. but that's not saying much, I don't think she's going to be the next celine dion as someone said because she doesn't have much of a voice. (I'll bet she can't sing live, same as britney... no wait... she can't sing, period.)
tries too hard to be original but? she sure is cute... not that it really ammounts to much... I do respect if she composes her own stuff tho
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justsendingits
Aug 29, 2002, 9:10 PM
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The last thing a punker cares about is singing in tune!!!
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Aug 29, 2002, 9:23 PM
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I don't care what she is, SHE'S HOT!!!!!!!!
I'd say that she's not to "Complicated" for me. hehehehehehe
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Aug 30, 2002, 12:21 AM
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I agree with Spydermonkey on this one. She's gorgeous.
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justsendingits
Aug 30, 2002, 1:47 AM
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She just won best new artist on MTV music awards!! Not that it is something to brag about,as a matter of fact MTV sux!!!
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The point I was trying to make was that for someone of her age, to write and sing your own songs (trite or not) takes a lot of guts. Having that much guts is to be commended...
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Quote:I think we'd all have to agree that the worst band live is NO FX
and they're damn proud of it.
I repeat: punk rock motherf---er.
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I say that Avril has a bright future ahead.
She is just seventeen and she is fulfilling her dreams.
So what if she is exploiting a market of kids with no individuality searching for some deeper meaning to their ultimately pathetic and useless lives. In a year from now she will be filthy rich and will never have to listen to anyones petty insults.
Celine Dion is famous (or infamous) filthy rich and she doesn't have to care about our petty insults and all she had to do was exploit the masses of young girls who where searching for their tragic, beautiful and ultimately pointless and pathetic love stories at the bottom of the ocean next to a ship that sunk a hundred years ago.
But COMparing the two! That is cruel and unusual by anyone's standards. Celine Dion isn't even real, she was computer generated with the Titanic.
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Aug 30, 2002, 3:19 AM
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It's not the artists fault, blame the kids that buy their CDs and request her videos.
I may think that the Backstreet Boys have little to no musical talent and are entirely a product of their promoters and agents but it's not their fault they suck. If they were so bad then why do stupid kids buy their gear?
I blame the stupid kids.
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kartaphilos
Aug 30, 2002, 3:33 AM
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Amen
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pushfurther
Aug 30, 2002, 7:35 AM
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she has butt crack hair.
i hate butt crack hair.
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and you would know this....uhh....HOW?
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the backstreet boys have talent compared to britney, she can't even sing... all she can do is wiggle her ass rather decently (or indecently depending on the interpretation)
and don't even mention n'sync... I've never seen more media manipulation than that.
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god!
why did you have o go and make things so complicated?!!
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I'm a bass payer for a band that is actually somewhat punk.......more like emo-indy rock, but anyway, we could kick the s*** out of many bands on TRL or other shows like that. They all write these poppy songs and sell out. It really bugs me. Avril almost there with the whole pose as a skater-punk chick.
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Ummm Personally I think her poppie attempt at mocking the punk community is sad. Yes she did bring this whole skater fad even bigger with the dumb Ties and socks on your arms but what the hell? I mean shes doing what she wants to do it may be awful she may not be very good live and she may not be the best looking girl on the planet but at least shes helping pop music have one thing it has been lacking for a while... Instraments. Spears NSync and all the rest just have mixing boards that make pretty beats atleast she has a Gituar Bass and Drums. Thats why I half-way respect her and others that are doing the same like Vanessa Carlton and Pink. Maybe they'll help people have higher expections than people who look good and can dance while lip syncing to their song. Later Player Haters
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i agree with lawnboy, everything except that she is so freikin gorgeous. But yeah, i hope that she does bring the pop world into a new, and much awaited, era of music. But until that time, she's still my fav. gorgeous singer.
MAVERICK
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How can people even call this music punk?
It was an outrage when Green Day was labeled punk...
an atrocity when Blink 182 got blessed with the punk label...
and this chick is the farthest thing from the original definition of punk the world has ever seen.
Punk isn't pop, it can't be. It's not supposed to be. It's about bucking the system, and not giving a damn about images and labels and conformity. In it's origin the music was highly politically motivated (pay attention to how many true punk songs have the word "revolution" in them some time). At it's least its nonsensical and horribly off key when preformed live. At it's best it motivates you to quit your job and start some anarchy.
SHE IS REALLY HOT THOUGH!!! (Remind anyone of Nicole Kidman a little?)
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