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smorgasbord
Jun 25, 2006, 12:54 AM
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In reply to: Um, no. If the fulcrum is down, the RAILS are up, NOT the points at the end of the rail. Ok, good point. I guess I meant the points at the ends of the rails are moving upwards, however you make a better point here:
In reply to: smorgasbord, I think I understand your point, but it's just muddying the waters.
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dirtineye
Jun 25, 2006, 10:03 PM
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Can't you just keep it simple, as in, pointed side and rails side?
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corpse
Jun 26, 2006, 12:39 AM
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In reply to: Can't you just keep it simple, as in, pointed side and rails side? Agreed. I used to (mistakenly) refer to the fulcrum/point as THE stinger - well, until I bought a NEW tricam and read the documention. Then I knew it was the fulcrum.. After reading this thread, I decided to change my terminology and always refer to it as the pointy side :) then regardless of terminology, other ppl will know what I'm talking about.
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phang_nga
Jun 26, 2006, 2:15 AM
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I'm planning on buying some of the bigger hexes. I have a full set of tricams already. In reading a few previous posts, I'm wondering how well hexes stick in limestone. I read at http://www.bdel.com/gear/wired_hexes.php that hexes work well in dirty cracks. I know that there are many different types of limestone, but overall I'm wondering if tricams (largest sizes) would be better or worse than hexes. My guess is that the 'fulcrum' digs into the rock a bit better than the angled corners of the hexes. Have any of you placed hexes in limestone? _____________________ "Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed." - Mahatma Gandhi
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deltav
Jun 26, 2006, 2:25 AM
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It has been my experience that most people place a bigger tricam than needed. It should be in a very obvious cammed position when set properly. And yes, crank doen on that sucker HARD
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phang_nga
Jun 26, 2006, 3:39 AM
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In reply to: It has been my experience that most people place a bigger tricam than needed. It should be in a very obvious cammed position when set properly. And yes, crank doen on that sucker HARD So what would you say is an indication that you've put in a tricam that's too big?
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corpse
Jun 26, 2006, 3:48 AM
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This would be a good time for picture or illustrations.
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dirtineye
Jun 26, 2006, 3:49 AM
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In reply to: I'm planning on buying some of the bigger hexes. I have a full set of tricams already. In reading a few previous posts, I'm wondering how well hexes stick in limestone. I read at http://www.bdel.com/gear/wired_hexes.php that hexes work well in dirty cracks. I know that there are many different types of limestone, but overall I'm wondering if tricams (largest sizes) would be better or worse than hexes. My guess is that the 'fulcrum' digs into the rock a bit better than the angled corners of the hexes. Have any of you placed hexes in limestone? _____________________ "Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed." - Mahatma Gandhi OK look, a dirty placment is a bad idea. Clean it out. Because gear slides on dirt. Placing gear in dirt is BAD, got it? I really take exception to BD saying anyting about thigns working in a dirty placement, they should be telling folks to clean the placement. I'll be taking it up with someone who can get it to the right ears, if indeed BD said that.
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phang_nga
Jun 26, 2006, 4:49 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: I'm planning on buying some of the bigger hexes. I have a full set of tricams already. In reading a few previous posts, I'm wondering how well hexes stick in limestone. I read at http://www.bdel.com/gear/wired_hexes.php that hexes work well in dirty cracks. I know that there are many different types of limestone, but overall I'm wondering if tricams (largest sizes) would be better or worse than hexes. My guess is that the 'fulcrum' digs into the rock a bit better than the angled corners of the hexes. Have any of you placed hexes in limestone? OK look, a dirty placment is a bad idea. Clean it out. Because gear slides on dirt. Placing gear in dirt is BAD, got it? I really take exception to BD saying anyting about thigns working in a dirty placement, they should be telling folks to clean the placement. I'll be taking it up with someone who can get it to the right ears, if indeed BD said that. I wouldn't make something like this up. Simply go to http://www.bdel.com/gear/wired_hexes.php and you'll see that it says, "Hexes work where other protection doesn’t, like dirty, icy or wet cracks." Thanks for your advice. I certainly agree with you. _______________________ "For three days after death, hair and fingernails continue to grow but phone calls taper off." - Johnny Carson
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cracklover
Jun 26, 2006, 1:05 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: It has been my experience that most people place a bigger tricam than needed. It should be in a very obvious cammed position when set properly. And yes, crank doen on that sucker HARD So what would you say is an indication that you've put in a tricam that's too big? 1 - It's cammed essentially all the way. There needs to be sufficient downward pressure on the nose (pointy end) or else it'll just skate out from a hard force. 2 - It's dastardly hard to clean. Just like with cams - if it's overcammed, it can be a royal pain to extract. GO
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