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justroberto


Jan 13, 2011, 2:03 PM
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I'd never heard of them, and their webstite doesn't mention anything other than the Via Ferrata. Are they going to open in back up? Pay-to-play? Or will you only be able to go if you're guided?


Taylorp.


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Right now my understanding is you can only go guided by Zook. I'm against it, to me it almost seems worse than banning climbing completely. However it seems like it could be a step in the right direction.


wallmonkey35


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Actually, I know that their is at least one other company is allowed to guide on Nelson as well, Seneca Rocks Climbing School. Just fyi.


cragmasterp


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NFW! Lester Zook from Harrisonburg owns Nelson Rocks now?? I just drove by Nelson on my way up to Tucker County to score some WV Powder turns and was thinking about the good old days of just opening up the farm gate and then carefully shutting it on our way in to explore these towering, gothic, crumbling fins of Tuscarora.

Lester used to be able to access the super fine fin Chimney Rock near Broadway after it was closed to us craggers. Always made me a little jealous because I learned to climb there, and have not been back in over 20 years.

Lester was always the top-roping Mennonite Christian climber dude back in the day, and a super nice guy to boot. put out the Rockingham County guidebook in the 90's; although curiously was not into putting up FA's himself; or lead climbing at all for that matter at that time.

Maybe I will get a shot at Crescendo after all with this new development in the history of Nelson Rocks.



EDIT: sorry just re-read mike's post. Lester not the owner, just the privileged guide who gets to climb the closed rock.Unsure

Jealous again, whatever tho. WV has many marvelous places to climb, bike, and ski.Cool


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roninthorne


Jan 14, 2011, 8:55 AM
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Wondering if those of us who came here "back in the day" will need a guide, and what the opportunities for employment AS a guide will be for the non-Mennonite/non-traditional Christians/unbelievers out there... like YT, for instance...Wink

I do understand that, previously, a lot of the First Ascensionists were allowed to come and climb for free/without a guide... wondering if this policy will continue


roninthorne


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Paul-

I always wondered about the fact that the only person allowed access to property owned by the Veterans of Foreign Wars wasn't a veteran of any war... and why there was apparently no effort to re-open the place to climbers.

I never knew Christianity was an exclusive club...


naitch


Jan 14, 2011, 9:26 AM
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As I recall from talking with Lester about 10 years ago...(and this could be a brain fart at my age), he said that he/climbing community had worked with the VFW to open it a number of times...one time with the understanding that people wouldn't trash the place; another time they'd arranged that climbers would either sign in or sign a release (or both). I think the issues were both upkeep and liability. Both times it was perceived that climbers were violating the "agreement". They continued to allow Lester privileged access, though it had nothing to do with his religious affiliation that I know of. It was because of being a longstanding member of the extended community; a professor; he'd taken the time to develop somewhat of a relationship with them; and it was always done under his supervision with a class. Don't know if he had/has an arrangement to guide there.

But, yes, it would be nice if it were opened again, though the climbing there is fairly limited from what I remember. Certainly worthwhile for locals though.

Edit: This comment was in reference to Chimney Rock out near Broadway, not Nelson Rocks, though I think Lester also guides there...


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Pyro_mvmc_va


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I think it SUCKS that Lester and his groups are the only climbers allowed. I don't need Lester's guidance to climb but I would like to climb at Nelson. Any Ideas people?


singletrackmike


May 6, 2011, 5:29 AM
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A good person to get in touch with, as he's a local who's put up a bunch of climbs there, is Tom Cecil, the owner/operator of Seneca Rocks Mountain Guides. He can be reached at 304-567-2115.
I think he's more aware than anyone else of pretty much anything that has to do with climbing in that area.

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