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kixx
Jan 10, 2007, 2:33 AM
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This is great. Everyone's going to be asking in 50 years;
"How'd you get thtough the Non-Winter if 2007?"
"It was terrrible, we walked our dogs in our T shirts, then went ice climbing in NH, then put our T shirts back on and went rock climbing, then sent emergency rations to snow bound cows in CO, then the smell from the NJ swamps covered Manhattan so we went back up to the Catskills to go Ice Climbing, and then stopped at the Gunks on the way back to do some bouldering, then read on RC.com that Ray Jardine kyaked to the north pole, and at the end of the day I saw on the news that Battery Park was under water and as I looked out my window a huge tidal wave smashed over top of the the Statue of Liberty and next thing I knew we were in the next ice age. So I got my tools out and...."
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honus
Jan 10, 2007, 4:29 AM
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you should know that right now huntington ravine is the ONLY place with ice in nh. you'll have a hard time justifying coming all the way out here for a few climbs. just wait a few weeks and hopefully it will get better. google the mount washington valley ice festival, that's early next month, and there should be some ice by then and lots of cool people are coming out for it. i would definitely hold out for better conditions if i were you.
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basilisk
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brent_e wrote: This probably means there is going to be some traffic there but I don't care.
i doubt it. there might be a few other parties there, but the long-ass hike in and out seems to do a good job of keeping people out. start early!
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brent_e
Jan 11, 2007, 6:08 AM
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basilisk wrote: brent_e wrote: This probably means there is going to be some traffic there but I don't care. i doubt it. there might be a few other parties there, but the long-ass hike in and out seems to do a good job of keeping people out. start early!
WICKED!
i'm excited about this. Should be fun for a first alpine-like experience.
I hope the weather cooperates!
main goal: get to NH friday sometime. Climb wash via hunnington to summit.
don't get blown off/ caught up top / freeze
maybe we can stop at the gunks on sunday!?!? hmmmmmmm
Brent
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kixx
Jan 11, 2007, 6:13 PM
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When Basilisk says start early I would take it with some seriousness. It's an awesome feeling to descend escape hatch at 9AM just in time to see the first few parties staggering in there, and then look at each other and go "wanna go again?" I stay at Harvard cabin or leave the Notch parking around 3 or 4 am. Better yet you can be out of there in the glorious sunshine with smug grins on your face while everybody else is praying for the weather to hold. Yeaaahhh, it's worth the 3 am start.
I'm hoping to be in the GUnks Sunday morning (for my Sunday worship service )
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kmc
Jan 11, 2007, 6:23 PM
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Bring your rain gear if you plan on heading to the Gunks this Sunday. The forecasts I have checked are calling for rain, but then again, when are they ever correct?
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brent_e
Jan 11, 2007, 10:13 PM
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kmc wrote: Bring your rain gear if you plan on heading to the Gunks this Sunday. The forecasts I have checked are calling for rain, but then again, when are they ever correct?
I see that
kixx wrote: When Basilisk says start early I would take it with some seriousness. It's an awesome feeling to descend escape hatch at 9AM just in time to see the first few parties staggering in there, and then look at each other and go "wanna go again?" I stay at Harvard cabin or leave the Notch parking around 3 or 4 am. Better yet you can be out of there in the glorious sunshine with smug grins on your face while everybody else is praying for the weather to hold. Yeaaahhh, it's worth the 3 am start. I'm hoping to be in the GUnks Sunday morning (for my Sunday worship serviceWink)
We'll take that advice. We're planning on going to the top, though, just for the fun of it.
maybe we'll see on sunday in the gunks....we'll be the two young idiots that don't look like we know anything.
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kixx
Jan 12, 2007, 2:35 AM
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It's dry under the overhangs.
have fun up there in any case
Oh, and just stand around and smoke for a while and you'll fit right in down here... You'll really look like you know what your doing if you can roll your own smokes and take 'em right down to the last mm. Seems to be the thing here these days.
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brent_e
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kixx wrote: It's dry under the overhangs. have fun up there in any case Oh, and just stand around and smoke for a while and you'll fit right in down here... You'll really look like you know what your doing if you can roll your own smokes and take 'em right down to the last mm. Seems to be the thing here these days.
well Kris, we never made it down to NH. We did get in some ice though in bancroft and quebec. I'll post up a TR sometime soon.
thanks everyone for all their help!
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granite_grrl
Jan 15, 2007, 2:15 PM
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brent_e wrote: kixx wrote: It's dry under the overhangs. have fun up there in any case Oh, and just stand around and smoke for a while and you'll fit right in down here... You'll really look like you know what your doing if you can roll your own smokes and take 'em right down to the last mm. Seems to be the thing here these days. well Kris, we never made it down to NH. We did get in some ice though in bancroft and quebec. I'll post up a TR sometime soon. thanks everyone for all their help! Brent
Brent, Nathan and I were thinking about you this morning, and looking at the freezing rain. We were hoping that you didn't end up having to deal with it on your drive home.
Glad you got on some ice. I'll try the harness hang test again in another coulpe of weeks and hopefully I'll get the chance to get on some ice this year!
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jeremy11
Jan 15, 2007, 4:57 PM
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kixx wrote: This is great. Everyone's going to be asking in 50 years; "How'd you get thtough the Non-Winter if 2007?" "It was terrrible, we walked our dogs in our T shirts, then went ice climbing in NH, then put our T shirts back on and went rock climbing, then sent emergency rations to snow bound cows in CO, then the smell from the NJ swamps covered Manhattan so we went back up to the Catskills to go Ice Climbing, and then stopped at the Gunks on the way back to do some bouldering, then read on RC.com that Ray Jardine kyaked to the north pole, and at the end of the day I saw on the news that Battery Park was under water and as I looked out my window a huge tidal wave smashed over top of the the Statue of Liberty and next thing I knew we were in the next ice age. So I got my tools out and...."
Hilarious!!  
actually, he and his wife Jenny skied to the South Pole. Read their daily entries here http://www.rayjardine.com/nft/index.php
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brent_e
Jan 15, 2007, 11:12 PM
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granite_grrl wrote: brent_e wrote: kixx wrote: It's dry under the overhangs. have fun up there in any case Oh, and just stand around and smoke for a while and you'll fit right in down here... You'll really look like you know what your doing if you can roll your own smokes and take 'em right down to the last mm. Seems to be the thing here these days. well Kris, we never made it down to NH. We did get in some ice though in bancroft and quebec. I'll post up a TR sometime soon. thanks everyone for all their help! Brent Brent, Nathan and I were thinking about you this morning, and looking at the freezing rain. We were hoping that you didn't end up having to deal with it on your drive home. Glad you got on some ice. I'll try the harness hang test again in another coulpe of weeks and hopefully I'll get the chance to get on some ice this year!
Thanks for thinking of me, Rebecca. Thankfully we got home before all that rubbish started, although my sister drove through Buffalo (hopefully safely) in it today.
get in that harness and see how it feels! it would be nice to see you out on some ice again!!!
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brent_e
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stickyfingerz wrote: brent_e wrote: well Kris, we never made it down to NH. Too bad man, it looks like you missed a nice day in the ravines. Saturday, January 13, 2007 5:10 AM Conditions at 5:10 AM Weather: Freezing drizzle/Ice pellets Temperature: 28°F Wind: W 60 gusting 68mph Visibility: 200 feet Relative Humidity: 100% Station Pressue: 23.73" falling slowly Ground Conditions: 5" snow and glaze ice 24 Hour Statistics Maximum Temperature: 28°F Minimum Temperature: 14°F Peak Wind Gust: W 87mph Average Wind Speed: 65.6 mph Liquid Precipitation: .08" Snowfall: .3
Todd,
so that's a good day, eh??? LOL nice. I regret that we didn't try the mountain, but we also had an awesome time up north. There will be a trip report in a couple hours or so.
Brent
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granite_grrl
Jan 16, 2007, 2:42 PM
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brent_e wrote: granite_grrl wrote: brent_e wrote: kixx wrote: It's dry under the overhangs. have fun up there in any case Oh, and just stand around and smoke for a while and you'll fit right in down here... You'll really look like you know what your doing if you can roll your own smokes and take 'em right down to the last mm. Seems to be the thing here these days. well Kris, we never made it down to NH. We did get in some ice though in bancroft and quebec. I'll post up a TR sometime soon. thanks everyone for all their help! Brent Brent, Nathan and I were thinking about you this morning, and looking at the freezing rain. We were hoping that you didn't end up having to deal with it on your drive home. Glad you got on some ice. I'll try the harness hang test again in another coulpe of weeks and hopefully I'll get the chance to get on some ice this year! Thanks for thinking of me, Rebecca. Thankfully we got home before all that rubbish started, although my sister drove through Buffalo (hopefully safely) in it today. get in that harness and see how it feels! it would be nice to see you out on some ice again!!!
Aye, temps are down, my hopes are up for ice. I've gotta try that harness again. I may not be able to walk very far to get to ice, or climb very well on the ice, but it would still be nice to get out.
BTW - There are a bunch of ACC icedays/weekends coming up. I'd like to actually get out to one or two of them this year. Tiffany Falls is enither coming up, or just past.
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brent_e wrote: stickyfingerz wrote: brent_e wrote: well Kris, we never made it down to NH. Too bad man, it looks like you missed a nice day in the ravines. Saturday, January 13, 2007 5:10 AM Conditions at 5:10 AM Weather: Freezing drizzle/Ice pellets Temperature: 28°F Wind: W 60 gusting 68mph Visibility: 200 feet Relative Humidity: 100% Station Pressue: 23.73" falling slowly Ground Conditions: 5" snow and glaze ice 24 Hour Statistics Maximum Temperature: 28°F Minimum Temperature: 14°F Peak Wind Gust: W 87mph Average Wind Speed: 65.6 mph Liquid Precipitation: .08" Snowfall: .3 Todd, so that's a good day, eh??? LOL nice. I regret that we didn't try the mountain, but we also had an awesome time up north. There will be a trip report in a couple hours or so. Brent
Yeah, that is pretty good conditions for Huntingtons, actually. The wind is often nasty bad once you get out of the bowl into the Alpine Garden (basically a ridgeline, and unsheltered from the wind), which is why most parties go down from there, as opposed to hiking up the extra hour to the actual summit.
They don't call it the worst weather in the world for nothin', you know!
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redpoint73 wrote: brent_e wrote: stickyfingerz wrote: brent_e wrote: well Kris, we never made it down to NH. Too bad man, it looks like you missed a nice day in the ravines. Saturday, January 13, 2007 5:10 AM Conditions at 5:10 AM Weather: Freezing drizzle/Ice pellets Temperature: 28°F Wind: W 60 gusting 68mph Visibility: 200 feet Relative Humidity: 100% Station Pressue: 23.73" falling slowly Ground Conditions: 5" snow and glaze ice 24 Hour Statistics Maximum Temperature: 28°F Minimum Temperature: 14°F Peak Wind Gust: W 87mph Average Wind Speed: 65.6 mph Liquid Precipitation: .08" Snowfall: .3 Todd, so that's a good day, eh??? LOL nice. I regret that we didn't try the mountain, but we also had an awesome time up north. There will be a trip report in a couple hours or so. Brent Yeah, that is pretty good conditions for Huntingtons, actually. The wind is often nasty bad once you get out of the bowl into the Alpine Garden (basically a ridgeline, and unsheltered from the wind), which is why most parties go down from there, as opposed to hiking up the extra hour to the actual summit. They don't call it the worst weather in the world for nothin', you know!
wow. I thought he was joking!!! Maybe i'll get to go down there later this year, i don't know. Thanks for the info.
granite_grrl wrote: Aye, temps are down, my hopes are up for ice. I've gotta try that harness again. I may not be able to walk very far to get to ice, or climb very well on the ice, but it would still be nice to get out. BTW - There are a bunch of ACC icedays/weekends coming up. I'd like to actually get out to one or two of them this year. Tiffany Falls is enither coming up, or just past.
get er done!! it would be nice to see you out, too. Swayze will be coming along right now, I think.
an ACC day at tiffany would be nice. Where do i find info? climbers.org??? I don't think they would have got to climb tiffany yet as I don't think it has formed. This is speculation, though.
As of now there is some ice up in bancroft and with the weather it's probably getting pretty fat. There was also ice in quebec north of gattineau at Lac Poisson Blanc. There is a trip report from our outings there in the TR forum.
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brent_e wrote: granite_grrl wrote: Aye, temps are down, my hopes are up for ice. I've gotta try that harness again. I may not be able to walk very far to get to ice, or climb very well on the ice, but it would still be nice to get out. BTW - There are a bunch of ACC icedays/weekends coming up. I'd like to actually get out to one or two of them this year. Tiffany Falls is enither coming up, or just past. get er done!! it would be nice to see you out, too. Swayze will be coming along right now, I think. an ACC day at tiffany would be nice. Where do i find info? climbers.org??? I don't think they would have got to climb tiffany yet as I don't think it has formed. This is speculation, though. As of now there is some ice up in bancroft and with the weather it's probably getting pretty fat. There was also ice in quebec north of gattineau at Lac Poisson Blanc. There is a trip report from our outings there in the TR forum.
I just looked at the ACC page, there's an event day for the 21th right now, coordinator is Rob Leblanc (you remember Rob and Sue right?), but it has a big fat TBD next to it. So I emailed Rob for some details (assuming I still have the right email for him), so I can let you know when I find out.
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brent_e wrote: redpoint73 wrote: brent_e wrote: stickyfingerz wrote: brent_e wrote: well Kris, we never made it down to NH. Too bad man, it looks like you missed a nice day in the ravines. Saturday, January 13, 2007 5:10 AM Conditions at 5:10 AM Weather: Freezing drizzle/Ice pellets Temperature: 28°F Wind: W 60 gusting 68mph Visibility: 200 feet Relative Humidity: 100% Station Pressue: 23.73" falling slowly Ground Conditions: 5" snow and glaze ice 24 Hour Statistics Maximum Temperature: 28°F Minimum Temperature: 14°F Peak Wind Gust: W 87mph Average Wind Speed: 65.6 mph Liquid Precipitation: .08" Snowfall: .3 Todd, so that's a good day, eh??? LOL nice. I regret that we didn't try the mountain, but we also had an awesome time up north. There will be a trip report in a couple hours or so. Brent Yeah, that is pretty good conditions for Huntingtons, actually. The wind is often nasty bad once you get out of the bowl into the Alpine Garden (basically a ridgeline, and unsheltered from the wind), which is why most parties go down from there, as opposed to hiking up the extra hour to the actual summit. They don't call it the worst weather in the world for nothin', you know! wow. I thought he was joking!!! Maybe i'll get to go down there later this year, i don't know. Thanks for the info.
Yeah, subzero temps and 40-50mph wind gusts when it is pleasant everywhere else in the valley is not unusual. You definitely need to watch the weather (and the avy conditions) if you plan to do Huntington's. There can be a 20+ deg temperature difference between the bottom and top of Mt. Washington.
http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/arvtp/
One trip up Huntington's, I stripped down to t-shirt and was dripping sweat on the approach, then encountered gusting wind, snow, and temps in the teens once in the bowl. Then once you get to the top of the bowl, it was even worse. We could barely stand up stright w/o feeling like the wind would blow you over. And if you put down any of your gear, it would start to blow away.
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Check out the conditions on Mount Washington today. Yeah baby, that's brisk!!! Should finally be good for growing some ice at the lower elevations. 
Wednesday, January 17, 2007
5:43 AM
Cold Temperatures and Extreme wind chills -60 to -80 below
Conditions at 5:43 AM
Weather: Broken Fog
Temperature: -28°F
Wind: NW 92mph
Visibility: 1/8 mile
Relative Humidity: 100%
Station Pressue: 23.44" rising
Ground Conditions: 7" Snow
24 Hour Statistics
Maximum Temperature: 23°F
Minimum Temperature: -31°F
Peak Wind Gust: NW 103mph
Average Wind Speed: 65.8 mph
Liquid Precipitation: .06"
Snowfall: .4"
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stickyfingerz wrote: Check out the conditions on Mount Washington today. Yeah baby, that's brisk!!! Should finally be good for growing some ice at the lower elevations. Wednesday, January 17, 2007 5:43 AM Cold Temperatures and Extreme wind chills -60 to -80 below Conditions at 5:43 AM Weather: Broken Fog Temperature: -28°F Wind: NW 92mph Visibility: 1/8 mile Relative Humidity: 100% Station Pressue: 23.44" rising Ground Conditions: 7" Snow 24 Hour Statistics Maximum Temperature: 23°F Minimum Temperature: -31°F Peak Wind Gust: NW 103mph Average Wind Speed: 65.8 mph Liquid Precipitation: .06" Snowfall: .4"
you weren't kidding, Todd!!! I guess it would have been a good day. Well, I can't think about it!!!
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