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reno
Feb 2, 2007, 2:02 AM
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redpointron wrote: reno wrote: natec wrote: Never been to Ouray but it sounds like a bummer. There are worse places to be as an ice climber. maybe like living near peyton manning's team maybe...
Or Phoenix. 
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satch
Feb 3, 2007, 10:43 PM
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The story you tell youself defines your "reality". You're telling yourself a story about the ice park, but its ruining your experience. I know what you mean about the groups in the school room & it can be bothersome. Let me offer a different story:
Ice climbing is a sport whose purpose is to have fun. Therefore, if people are having fun ice climbing, they are doing the sport. The people socializing at the bottom of the gorge are just having fun (in their own social way). After all to quote the late, great Alex Lowe- "the best climber is the one having the most fun."
Anyway, this is the story I tell myself about it. It seems to help. There are other stories offered here on this thread. I, for one, sure don't want to have a miserable experience in Ouray, especially after a long drive (from the South, by-the-way).
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shredude
Feb 4, 2007, 12:26 AM
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Speaking of Az. Do you think there may be some ice in Oak Creek canyon when the weather is as cold as it was a couple of weeks ago?? I mean, there's got be something dripping out og thr walls and when the thermometer doesn't climb above 30 all day there's got to be something!!
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reno
Feb 4, 2007, 1:08 AM
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shredude wrote: Speaking of Az. Do you think there may be some ice in Oak Creek canyon when the weather is as cold as it was a couple of weeks ago?? I mean, there's got be something dripping out og thr walls and when the thermometer doesn't climb above 30 all day there's got to be something!!
It's possible, I suppose, but it'd take a good run of freeze/thaw cycles to really form up any climbable flows.
I was scouting some narrow slots on the north-west faces of the Mazatzal range today when we flew over, but other than some snow-choked gullies, I didn't see anything.
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shredude
Feb 4, 2007, 1:31 AM
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Yeah, I'm really chomping at the bit to get my crampons on and swing some tools. I guess I'll just go practice on some tall cottonwoods again. Or, let the Prescott Lakes waterfall freeze agin and climb that! Kinda scuzzy though.
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pyramid
Feb 4, 2007, 3:46 PM
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What do you expect now that ice climbing has become the newest city-slicker gaper sport, and
the ice park is central too that popularity. Iceisnice,
your from new york, what are you talking about gumby's for!!
Oh by the way toproping in the park isn't ice climbing, it's gaperiffic.
(This post was edited by pyramid on Feb 4, 2007, 4:02 PM)
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cchas
Feb 6, 2007, 2:21 PM
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Come'on, get over yourself. By going to the park you should know what to expect. If I am soloing there I know someone will drop a rope on my head (has happened). If you want to get away from it get go to the Lead Only area or get onto one of the M8's or M9's or head up the road to one of the longer routes in the areas surrounding Ouray.
Its a park and you should know what to expect.
As for Reno, haven't seen any ice in Oak Creek Canyon, but there is ONE mixed climb (I have been told that it goes around M7, but I went there after it fell down)on Mt Elden.
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weasel
Feb 11, 2007, 5:24 AM
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kricir wrote: The best offence is to wait for a break between climbers, and say, mind if I take a quick lap on this? (more statement than question). Then poach their climb, solo, to show how much better you are then them.
I can't tell if this is sarcasm, but for the love of god I hope it is.
Gumbies exist, that's true in any part of climbing. But thank god there's the ice park to lure them all away from the actual nice lines in the area. Why would you go to the ice park and expect a backcountry ice climbing experience?
kricir wrote: Always take a pack of stinky smokes or cigarillos for the ice park, and light up while belaying. 
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mattb1921
Feb 12, 2007, 8:44 PM
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You know I have got admit that the park can bring you down when it gets busy. The gym mentality does drive me crazy. I don't understand how people can hang out on a climb all day and think that is acceptable. The other thing is all the people who go in large groups and throw rope on several climbs and just keep them to their group all day like they own them.
Overall I do have to say that I enjoy the park. It is a great place to learn and if you are a well skilled climber you can climb steeper stuff or take on some leads in the lead area with little traffic.
I have to agree with everyone who says that it is all a frame of mind. Just do your thing and have a good time and good things will happen. If you like solitude last time I looked there are tons of backcountry stuff to jump on that the posers do not climb. So go enjoy yourself and stop sweating the details!
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