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We have a Eurovan so are pretty self-sufficient and don't need much - sounds like we can camp for free in some primitive areas in the park? Are there any recommended pay-for campgrounds in case we want to occassionally plug in (electric hookup) to keep the beers cold in the fridge?


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Roger's is THE place to camp, drink, burn pallates, and basically hang out when you're not climbing. Go there, Roger is the man.


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I like chestnut creek off lansing road. Closer to most climbing.


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From my experience:
Rogers if you like the crazy hooliganry and partake more in extracurricular that the purpose of The New.

Chestnut Creek if you want a good night sleep.
No hook-ups though. (Heed all signs) (=

Either way, pick a few nights at each and make a decision that way. Have a great time, it's beautiful!


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Rogers really is the place to be, though does not have available access to electricity or a nice shower. You would aslo be using a Porta John as your facilities all week.

I know it is not what you are looking for, but it is cheap, right above kaymoor, and it really is great.


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Thanks everyone - we should be there during the middle of the week so maybe Roger's won't be as crazy as usual. We'll probably try both as suggested and get the real flavor. Speaking of FLAVOR, anyone care to recommend the best eateries for dinner and/or brew? (no fast food please)


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Pies and Pints of course! From the bridge take a left to go towards old downtown, the gear shop, and Roger's. You will see the balcony and old house immediatly on the left.

Man I miss the east coast! NRG has the best rock in the world.


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Pies and Pints
Grape Goat Cheese and Rosemary pizza......sooooo good.


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stonefoxgirl wrote:
Pies and Pints
Grape Goat Cheese and Rosemary pizza......sooooo good.

That's my favorite, too, but not many people seem to like it. More for us, eh? Smile

Cathedral Cafe (best breakfast in town, plus wi-fi)
Western Pancake House (if you like greasy spoons)
Pies & Pints (great pizza anyplace on Earth (except NYC))
Garden Fish (excellent sushi, but only on Fridays, also a good place to pick up sandwiches for crag lunches)
Chico's (Mexican)
Sedona (great food, but very pricey for the area)

Oh, also, if you need an AC hook up, camp at a raft company. Try Rifrafters on Laurel Creek Rd., behind Rivermen.


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Well tell your roomie to get on it, he's never had one before!

Is it goat cheese......seems like it's another type of soft cheese......I totally want one now!


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Rojers sucks for van camping! no even remotely level parking. Sleezy and cheap.. Cheep is fine but fer christ sake push some dirt arround and make level campsites and a decent shower....


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stonefoxgirl wrote:
Well tell your roomie to get on it, he's never had one before!

Is it goat cheese......seems like it's another type of soft cheese......I totally want one now!

I think it's gorgonzola.


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charley wrote:
I like chestnut creek off lansing road. Closer to most climbing.

I'll never have to camp at the New again, but if I did, I'd probably pick Chestnut, since it's quiet. However, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a posted rule. A friend of mine calls it Rule Creek, because of the rules posted all over the bloody place.


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Yet another vote for Pies and Pints. The best pizza ever! Get the B.L.T.
MMmmMMMmm Good!


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j_ung wrote:
charley wrote:
I like chestnut creek off lansing road. Closer to most climbing.

I'll never have to camp at the New again, but if I did, I'd probably pick Chestnut, since it's quiet. However, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a posted rule. A friend of mine calls it Rule Creek, because of the rules posted all over the bloody place.

If you hurry and get moved I won't have to camp at the nrg either.Cool
For good cajun food try gumbos across the street and up a bit from cathederal cafe.


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Roger's is the de facto HQ for climbers at the New, but you're on your own for cleansing yourself (sneak down to the waterfall at Butcher's Branch when no one is looking with a bar of all-natural soap :) ), less'n you want to pay for a shower. No electric either.


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Gosh, all this talk about showers and soap and electric and fancy food. The New just isn't what it was 5 years ago...

PS. What the fuck, I'm coming up there tomorrow night and ya'll are getting fucking snow? Are you kidding me? My first decent trip to the new since Thanksgiving and it's gonna freeze and have snow. This sucks. Anybody know somewhere warm I can sleep?


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Since Roger is a dear, dear friend (wink) I feel like I should reply. Yes, Roger's is probably 'the' place for climbers to camp. And yes, it is not the flattest place to camp. But.... if you've ever spent time at the Red at Miguel's you'll realize that Roger's really isn't all that crazy. On a really busy night, most people, in general, are still in their warm and cozy tents at a decent hour. I'd guess... say midnight it really quiets down, at the latest. AND, if you will be there mid-week, you'll have NO problem at all with crowds.

To be specific on what you are getting and you'd pay for: $6 per night per person to camp there. You get Roger Cafe in the morning (coffee is free, and does the trick) and the exquisit company of Roger himself of course. He has a shower, you get 7 minutes for a buck. He has one portapottie. You would be camping right above Kaymoor, you can just walk down the hill to the cliff and climb. Hard to get much closer.

No electric hook ups, sorry.

Hope that helps! If I had a rig like yours, I'd stay there for sure. Wink


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there's no better camping than roger's.

there's no better game than drunken scrabble on the porch at rogers in the dark at 1 am.

there's no better food than pies n pints.

any questions?


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noell wrote:
Since Roger is a dear, dear friend (wink) I feel like I should reply. Yes, Roger's is probably 'the' place for climbers to camp. And yes, it is not the flattest place to camp. But.... if you've ever spent time at the Red at Miguel's you'll realize that Roger's really isn't all that crazy. On a really busy night, most people, in general, are still in their warm and cozy tents at a decent hour. I'd guess... say midnight it really quiets down, at the latest. AND, if you will be there mid-week, you'll have NO problem at all with crowds.

To be specific on what you are getting and you'd pay for: $6 per night per person to camp there. You get Roger Cafe in the morning (coffee is free, and does the trick) and the exquisit company of Roger himself of course. He has a shower, you get 7 minutes for a buck. He has one portapottie. You would be camping right above Kaymoor, you can just walk down the hill to the cliff and climb. Hard to get much closer.

No electric hook ups, sorry.

Hope that helps! If I had a rig like yours, I'd stay there for sure. Wink



In light of this, I feel I should add my two cents:

1) Roger is, perhaps, one of the nicest people on earth. If you're new to the, er, New, he'll give you beta on what's on your tick list, and fill you in on all the stuff that's not in the guide book.

2) The coffee doesn't taste the best, but you can't beat the price (see #1 regarding nicest person on earth).

3) Beware - your dollar buys you 7 minutes in the LACTIC ACID BATH! MUHAHAHAHAHA! Etc.


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I don't mind a pay shower. It just sucks to not have a sort of level spot to park your van. We paid rojer and then ended up driveing past rojers to the parking lot just past rojers and sleeping illeagly for the night. Sucks to pay$$ to illeagly park. Vanagons are awsome but they suck on steep hills with no e brake. He really should borrow a buldozer from someone and grade some level spots into that rolercoaster he call a campground :)


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If they are there mid week, level parking spots won't be a problem I don't believe. It's easier to find a level parking spot than a level tent spot, in my humble opinion.

I lived there fall before last, and most of my NRG pals live there in the summer in westies or vans or whatever. I sleep in my Jeep. Sometimes we parked in front of the shack, parallel w/the trees, and sometimes we parked in front of his garage by the road. We didn't have too much trouble finding a flat spot on the road.

Now for tent campers, or on a busy weekend when people park everywhere, it could be a different story.

In any case, the New is awesome, youll have a fantastic time there OP! But I agree w/tradman, don't park in the illegal spots beyond Roger's - park rangers have been known to bust people camping in that lot.


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Yea , we wanted a bit more privacy than parking right in front of the canteen in the street light. Spoiled by princiss snowbird @ seneca. crappy showers but cheap, flat and pleanty of privacyCool Lots of awsome level, free van camping in NC Lindville gorge, Table rock, ship rock etc...
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hi
im new to the nrg scene. im planning a trip down at the end of april. any advice?? is rogers first come first serve and were is his place?


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tes003 wrote:
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im new to the nrg scene. im planning a trip down at the end of april. any advice?? is rogers first come first serve and were is his place?


Hehe...the directions you get will be epic. This is always fun to watch.


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Hehe...the directions you get will be epic. This is always fun to watch.
as always there are many ways to skin a cat. just trying to get a feel of camping in relation to town and climbing. hopefully a street address for rogers ?

~and i lost track of that line years ago


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tes003 wrote:
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im new to the nrg scene. im planning a trip down at the end of april. any advice?? is rogers first come first serve and were is his place?

http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1041307;search_string=directions%20to%20rogers;#1041307


do a search for "directions to rogers" if my link doesnt work


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Here's the link. It's not as hard to find as you may think, there are good directions in the new Cater guide (Kaymoor, as Noell said in the link).


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if you're camping at rogers make absolutely sure you bring your rain suit...cause you're going to get sprayed...cheap and convenient site though, unless you're climbing anywhere but kaymoor


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That doesn't make any sense, get sprayed? Roger's is convenient to everywhere at the New and it could be said that it is the hub of climbing activity at the New. If you show up and need a partner(s), Roger will know someone, where they're going, how hard they climb and where they're from. The services he provides (good company, fun atmosphere, partner 'service', free coffee, huge bonfires, and just general knowledge) are priceless in my book.


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apparently you're not familiar with the term...yes, it could be said that rogers is the hub of climbing activity at the New because that's where the majority of climbers camp and 1 of the most popular areas is located directly below the campsite (kaymoor)
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Roger's is convenient to everywhere at the New
wrong, for location, roger's is not convenient to anywhere besides kaymoor...for all other areas you have to drive about 10 minutes into fayetteville and then north on route 19 to all other areas


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I like chestnut. It's quiet, close, and has nice facilities. Also, owner is really nice and accommodating.

I don't think there has ever been a time where I went climbing at the gorge and didn't stop by Pies and Pints for some good food. I try and stop in to Waterstone too and buy something. Gotta keep these local businesses up and running. Since Backcountry just filed for bankruptcy and are gone, Waterstone is probably the closest store to buy climbing gear from blacksburg.


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lodi5onu wrote:
wrong, for location, roger's is not convenient to anywhere besides kaymoor...for all other areas you have to drive about 10 minutes into fayetteville and then north on route 19 to all other areas

Sorry, I guess for me, after a several hour drive, 10 or 15 minutes isn't all that inconvenient if it means supporting one of the best people I've ever met. Then again, if a slightly sloping parking spot or a portajohn is an inconvenience then I'm not sure we're on the same wavelength.


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i haven't said anything about a sloping parking lot or a portajohn, i sleep in my car and go to the bathroom in the woods...i've also never camped anywhere but rogers. the original poster asked about primitive camping with electric hook-ups...rogers does not have that...there are other more logistically convenient campgrounds with the OP's requested amenities...i'm giving facts not opinion


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tes003 wrote:
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im new to the nrg scene. im planning a trip down at the end of april. any advice?? is rogers first come first serve and were is his place?

Where are you coming from, if I may ask?

My advice on finding Roger's would be to stop at Waterstone when you get into fayetteville. The folks there will give you very accurate directions and probably draw you a map. Plus Waterstone is super easy to find, just hang a left at the first light you come to after turning off of Rte. 19. (www.waterstoneoutdoors.com)


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im coming from boston.... been wanting to check out nrg for a while. and since the weather up here has made climbing imposible figured i would try more south. Smile


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I see. Yeah I was gonna offer a ride if you were near by but after I posted I realized you were going in April instead of May. I'm goin to the rendezvous in May, which is why I asked. Sorry. Have a good time though


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thanks for the offer. very thoughful of you. not that many people from new england would offer such things like that.


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Hahaha I hear ya. I guess Pennsylvania is close enough that I could be influenced with a bit of southern hospitality by some lucky stretch.


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