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stymingersfink
Jun 9, 2007, 4:03 PM
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climbhigher wrote: Remind me not to gamble at Pool, Please!!!
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ja1484
Jun 9, 2007, 4:05 PM
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mike_ok wrote: This picture just never gets old ;-) I'll second the advice for ladders... (Yates). Also suggest a notchless biner on top (BD positron or Petz Spirit)... makes clipping in and out of the pro much smoother.
The 'biner you're looking for is the Petzl Owall. It's a notchless oval, so easy clipping/unclipping is assured, and since it's an oval it weights evenly and shifting is less of an issue.
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rangerrob
Jun 28, 2007, 9:03 PM
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I gotta throw in my two cents here. I haven't done a whole lot of aid. Mostl of it in the Gunks or Adirondacks, and a trip to Zion. I used some apline aiders when I frst started, then bought a pair of Metolius adjustable etriers. I have no idea why people still use old fashioned step in etriers. I have never had a problem with the adjustables. Sure it takes a pitch or two to figure out how to use them efficiently, but by God once you do they are great. You don't need to worry about losing them becuase they are attached to your foot, No struggling to get your foot in the loop every time, quick step ups, and less gear. What's not to like? I have never had the buckle fail or slip. I don't know.....is there something about old fangled ladders I am missing?
RR
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stymingersfink
Jun 29, 2007, 5:05 AM
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rangerrob wrote: I gotta throw in my two cents here. I haven't done a whole lot of aid. <snip> I don't know.....is there something about old fangled ladders I am missing? RR
well, i would guess that you've never made a placement while so stretched out that you're still stepping up from the ladders you're moving from... or perhaps a hook far off to the side that should be tested from down low, requiring one to step to the bottom of the ladders in order to test safely?
get on The Captain, on something more difficult than A2... you'll discover for yourself the many uses of "old-fangled ladders".
Tried 'em (adjustables) for a wall once.
Once.
Then I sold them to a sport-jugger. That's about all they're good for, IMO.
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rangerrob
Jun 29, 2007, 12:01 PM
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You're absolutely right, I've never done an A3. Spinal Traction in the Gunks is listed as A3, but it's no more than A2, if that. But I have hooked a bit and made long placements with em and haven't had a problem. Sounds like you have way more experience, so I will defer to you. But calling me a sport jugger...man that just smarts dude!
RR
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stymingersfink
Jun 29, 2007, 4:17 PM
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unless i'm mistaken, I didn't call you a sport-jugger... i said i sold the pair that I tried to a sport-jugger (actually a friend doing a drop into an 1800' cave around these here parts), and that they worked quite well for the purposes he was using them for.
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