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juho.risku


Mar 11, 2009, 7:15 AM
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I would think that light and versatile would be the most appropriate measures for me... perhaps further more stressing light. So Silvretta 500... what about skis then or boots (I'm not sure that I would like to ski down with mountaineering boot)? Have any of you any opinion for instance about Scarpa's F1 Races?


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Mar 11, 2009, 12:36 PM
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kobaz wrote:
I highly recommend the silvretta 500. I've got them mounted on some short light skiis.

I've done trips of 5+ miles kick and glide with my lightweight Kayland boots with no problem. I've skinned 10+ miles with the same boots, no problem.

I have a pair of fritschi's that need some mounting, but from what I've read/heard they seem like an awesome backcountry binding.

I've used three and four buckle AT boots and did black diamonds with them. The release is pretty good, but not the best. And it's a heel-only release, so I wouldn't recommend doing anything that you're gonna be falling on anyway.

They are an all-around really solid versatile binding.

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in my humble opinion, this is the best and most important info right here.

if you are really looking to be able to climb like you want to, focus on being able to use a boot you really want to climb in. Right? This isn't a ski trip that would be cool to do some climbing. There are plenty of lines I've scoped/skied that looked rad, but I had the option of some easy/moderate climbing to access them. In that case, where the focus was hard skiing and easy climbing I adapted my ski gear as much I could for climbing. (Hard if you are a tele skier...)

But if the focus is climbing and the skiing is a way to get up and down quickly and easily, do what you can to adapt your climbing gear. The biggest thing that you can do in this regard is to not start handicapped- no matter what binding you use, if you are using climbing boots in long heavy skis your are going to be fucked and feel like you are totally out of control. look into short light skis (i recommend looking at voile, they make some of the lightest easily turned skis out there).

the shorter and lighter you can get them, the less force you need to transfer into the ski to turn them, the softer a boot you can use without feeling totally out of control.


kobaz


Mar 11, 2009, 3:41 PM
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juho.risku wrote:
I would think that light and versatile would be the most appropriate measures for me... perhaps further more stressing light. So Silvretta 500... what about skis then or boots (I'm not sure that I would like to ski down with mountaineering boot)? Have any of you any opinion for instance about Scarpa's F1 Races?

I've personally ski'd down many times with mountaineering boots. I've used the vasque ice 9000 for anything involving long downhills. They are heavy double ice/mountaineering boots. Not plastic, but a composite mix that was just stiff enough for skiing some steeper downhills (think blue square territory). They worked really well, surprisingly well. The bindings even released when I took a turn badly and face planted.

If the trail is "groomed" (ie: lots of snowsnow and ski traffic), mountaineering boots work great, and better than stiff ski boots since they are going to be lighter and easier on your poor feets.


kobaz


Mar 11, 2009, 3:45 PM
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juho.risku wrote:
... what about skis then or boots

Skis.. I use a 2005 K2 first luv, 153cm. You can still get them on closeout at some places. I saw a pair at evogear for 15 bucks. The first luv is a women's ski.. all the better for backcountry. It's got some soft flex for going over rolling terrain and it's going to be lighter than the made-for-guys equivalent.

Look for a short, light, flexible, woman's ski, seriously, hehe


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juho.risku wrote:
I would think that light and versatile would be the most appropriate measures for me... perhaps further more stressing light. So Silvretta 500... what about skis then or boots (I'm not sure that I would like to ski down with mountaineering boot)? Have any of you any opinion for instance about Scarpa's F1 Races?

There is a guide that climbs and ski tours in the Adirondacks that uses them and swears by them. He's on the cover of the Slide Guide for the area. he uses dynafits, though.


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One of my partners comfortably climbs 5+ in his Garmont mega-lites. For harder terrain he prefers his La Sportiva Trangos.

Me, I prefer to ski in my ice boots when approaching because I tele ski, not AT. so my AT set-up is for approach. I don't want to drop the coin on a light set of AT boots.

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