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flint
Feb 21, 2008, 9:22 PM
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So, I was playing with my rack while watching the snow fall and realized that my favorite little pink pro is getting up there in the 5 year old range. Now, I know about the life of webbing and what not, but do you guys still place your tri-cams after there five year webbing death? What is the oldest age which you would trust you tri-cams?
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Roots
Feb 21, 2008, 10:16 PM
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I would use the same reasoning as with any webbing..
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tolman_paul
Feb 22, 2008, 12:48 AM
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I think all my tri-cams are about 20 years old, and I'm still using them. The webbing is in good shape.
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binrat
Feb 22, 2008, 12:51 AM
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Mine is 12 and just got it re-lung becasue the webbing was just alittle rough.
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potreroed
Feb 22, 2008, 8:27 AM
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My pink tricams are way old and I still trust them.
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wanderlustmd
Feb 22, 2008, 2:21 PM
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6 years.
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jestering
Feb 22, 2008, 3:15 PM
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Just got my first one. Can't wait to use it; NC climbing, here I come.
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gt29905
Feb 22, 2008, 3:18 PM
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Yeah... one of my pink tricams is kinda rough. The other is brand new. I keep the funky pinky because it's kind of a "leaver tricam." Like a leaver biner. I don't know that's kind of sketchy but I'm poor so I need my worn gear to serve a function. 
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no_email_entered
Feb 22, 2008, 4:10 PM
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mine are beat to shit. still use them and love them.
another question is how many have you come across that were impossibly stuck and yet you still tried to add to the booty bin?
three in the last year. i came across another one last week. looked like it had been stuck in this crack for 100 years. i still tried to jimmy it out though.
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joshklingbeil
Feb 22, 2008, 4:13 PM
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9 years old. I hardly use them. But I still trust them more then I trust some people.
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the_climber
Feb 22, 2008, 4:46 PM
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no_email_entered wrote: mine are beat to shit. still use them and love them. another question is how many have you come across that were impossibly stuck and yet you still tried to add to the booty bin? three in the last year. i came across another one last week. looked like it had been stuck in this crack for 100 years. i still tried to jimmy it out though.
There is only 1 (one) bootie tricam that has been so stuck I couldn't get it out. It's on P1 of Reclining Pine at the Back of the Lake (Lake Louise). I do belive someone took multipe meatbombz on that one.
I've bootied a lot of tricams, and given a lot away to partners starting out on Trad. If they need to be reslung I generally forgo sending them away and just resling them myself.
I have pinks Tricams ranging from about 8+ years only to 1.5 years old.
The set up I settled on:
One old one (before they changed the mould and made them bigger)
One filed down ( equivalent to ~0.3)
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One newer bootied one (newer larger mould) reslung on black webbing.
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clintcummins
Feb 22, 2008, 9:29 PM
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I don't know how old mine is, but it doesn't matter - I found it some years ago and it simply hangs in the garage with the other tricams I've found. It has "194" stamped on it - is that sufficient for a tricam expert to determine its age? :-)
One of my partners has a collection of booty pink tricams she has found, mostly on mountains. I think she has 4 or 5 of them. We scored the most recent one last summer from the pitch right after the Vein Pitch on Snowpatch Spire (SE Corner).
Maybe I should ebay the ones I've found - 0.5, 2.5, 3, 4.
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Feb 22, 2008, 9:32 PM
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clintcummins wrote: I don't know how old mine is, but it doesn't matter - I found it some years ago and it simply hangs in the garage with the other tricams I've found.
Ditto.
DMT
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paintrain
Feb 24, 2008, 5:43 AM
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+15 years.
Been probably 8-10 years since I placed it.
Pt
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Feb 24, 2008, 5:51 PM
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flint wrote: Now, I know about the life of webbing and what not, but do you guys still place your tri-cams after there five year webbing death? What is the oldest age which you would trust you tri-cams? j-
If you have old or damaged slings, then you should have them reslung. This applies to cams as well as tri-cams.
Unless you have taken a hammer to the tri-cam to get it out, I can't see that age would matter much. My pink tri-cam is 15 years old (and has been reslung). It has been a while since I used it (although there are a few routes for which I might dig it out).
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nurocks
Feb 24, 2008, 6:11 PM
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mine is about 6 years old...but I haven't placed it since last November at E-rock...spring is comming...it will get placed again.
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Feb 24, 2008, 6:25 PM
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My original pink Tricam is about 14 years old. I just got a replacement for it last Christmas.
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Feb 24, 2008, 7:24 PM
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one about 10 years, and the other about 3. I probably should look into getting the one reslung soon, but more due to age. SInce it hasn't taken a fall, and repeated stretching along with age is what really kills webbing I still feel safe, but will consider reslinging. If it is older than 5 years and has taken a fall or two I would resling.
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greatgarbanzo
Feb 29, 2008, 6:16 PM
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All my cams are 12years old. I change the webbing every 3 years. Everytime they fail is because of bad rock/placement.
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the_climber
Feb 29, 2008, 6:30 PM
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greatgarbanzo wrote: All my cams are 12years old. I change the webbing every 3 years. Everytime they fail is because of bad rock/placement.
You, uh... still talking about "Tricams" like the rest of us? Or TCU's?
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gandolf
Mar 1, 2008, 8:24 AM
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Pink tricam: 15+ years old, but don't use it that much.
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the_climber
Mar 3, 2008, 12:16 AM
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Now that is some serious dedication to the pink.
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granite_grrl
Mar 3, 2008, 2:16 AM
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One is like 5 or 6 years old I think, the other maybe 3 (???). If your 5 year old was still from when they were making them a little smaller, you'd be a fool to totally replace it (unless you want me to take it off your hand for you!). If you're really worried about the webbing, just resling it.
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Mar 3, 2008, 3:26 PM
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Mine's coming up to the 10 year mark (along with the rest of the whole set).
I really should get them re-slung, but I don't use them that much for trad lead, so they doesn't see any direct lead falls. I do use them for top rope anchors on a semi-regular basis, though.
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Mar 25, 2008, 6:23 AM
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Mine are older than me, i think some dude used them during the great depression.
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healyje
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Retired for about a couple of decades for the most part. Don't have a lot of use for them on our basalt out this way. Used to use them all the time when I lived back east.
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thelockdude
Mar 28, 2008, 2:07 AM
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How do you get them re-slung? And what does it cost?
If the roll pin is rusted, do they replace that too? Or is it a goner at that point?
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imnotclever
Mar 28, 2008, 2:44 PM
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6 years and still in good enough shape.
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the_climber
Mar 28, 2008, 3:34 PM
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thelockdude wrote: How do you get them re-slung? And what does it cost?
Some webbing off of a spool tied with a water knot. Cost? about $.90/Tricam.
And yes I have bombed onto them with tied slings.
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thelockdude
Mar 28, 2008, 4:34 PM
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the_climber wrote: Some webbing off of a spool tied with a water knot. Cost? about $.90/Tricam.
It would have to be 1/2" to fit the pink tricam. Mountain Gear has 1/2" tubular webbing for .39/ft. Is that what you recommend? I'm wondering if tubular webbing would be too bulky.
I visited the Mountain Tools website that acorneau posted. They use "ultratape" to resling tricams. I didn't spend a lot of time on their site, but it doesn't look like they sell ultratape, i.e. by the foot or roll. Does somebody else sell it?
I am guessing if I get the tricam professionally re-slung, they sew it again, similar to the original webbing that came with the tricam?
If I re-sling it myself, can I put a few stitches in the webbing, near the tricam itself, to give it a little stiffness when placing it?
And last, what about the roll pin - when you get a tricam professionally re-slung, do they replace the rollpin?
Dan
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the_climber
Mar 28, 2008, 4:47 PM
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I have used 1/2" to rapair them in the field, a quick temp-fix. Double this up, it is easily done on the pink too. A double layer does not interfere with your placement.
You can source super tape, or other high strength webbing. Look around you'll find it.
I have put 1" tubular on a pink tricam berfore, but you need to stitch it folded lenthwise where it goes around the rolepin.
And yes you can sitich the webbing to hold the tricam in place at the end, finger tape works too.
I do not belive they replace the role pin when re-slinging.
(This post was edited by the_climber on Mar 28, 2008, 4:50 PM)
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healyje
Mar 28, 2008, 5:13 PM
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When I was using them I had them all set up so you could place them like stoppers and 'auto-shove' them in camming mode.
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flint wrote: So, I was playing with my rack while watching the snow fall and realized that my favorite little pink pro is getting up there in the 5 year old range. Now, I know about the life of webbing and what not, but do you guys still place your tri-cams after there five year webbing death? What is the oldest age which you would trust you tri-cams? j-
Mine are 10+ years old and I trust them. I they don't see the light of day that often either though.
The five year rule of thumb is exactly that. A rule of thumb. If the webbing isn't crusty and all torn up it should be fine.
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austin.timm
Mar 30, 2008, 2:12 AM
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the_climber wrote: Now that is some serious dedication to the pink.
True dat...
Tri Cams are sweet young or old.... if they're that damn ratty mountaintools.com will throw on a new sling for not that much coin.
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herothezero
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What would the reprocution be to re-sling them with cord?
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the_climber
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herothezero wrote: What would the reprocution be to re-sling them with cord?
Of the top of my head:
-being limited to use as only a stopper (any cord of equivalent strength to the webbing would be too thick to use it in camming mode)
-reduced strength as the force would not be distributed across the whole length of the role pin
-difficulty in cleaning especially the smaller sizes
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There is a reason they are sling with a sling. Yes there are knock-off's that are cabe slung, but that is a whole different thing from cord. Stick with webbing.
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herothezero
May 15, 2008, 1:02 AM
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good answer
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guangzhou
May 15, 2008, 2:40 AM
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If i remember correctly I bought mine in 1991. Yikes.
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stymingersfink
May 17, 2008, 1:39 PM
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she's of legal age, that's all you need to know.
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guangzhou
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stymingersfink wrote: she's of legal age, that's all you need to know.
Not sure what state you're in, but here, there is no such thing as legal age. Of course, my tricam is older than many of my students, maybe it's time to retire. (IT)
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