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rschap
Mar 12, 2009, 12:49 AM
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Ok which cam will hold the most and how many kn. The person with the right cam, and the closest to it’s kn without going over wins one of my home made camhooks (recipient takes all responsibility for any harm or damage the camhook may inflict). Adatesman correct me if I’m wrong but the machine gets to within .0045kn so no guessing the same as anyone else.
Check here if you have no clue what I’m taking about: http://www.rockclimbing.com/...3;page=unread#unread
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kennoyce
Mar 12, 2009, 1:07 AM
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Of course I will have to vote for mine, and I'll say 21.4 kN.
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rschap
Mar 12, 2009, 1:09 AM
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I'm going for steel Lilbro with 50kn, of course my vote don't count.
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crazy_fingers84
Mar 12, 2009, 1:21 AM
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rschap wrote: I'm going for steel Lilbro with 50kn, of course my vote don't count.
the sling on it is only rated to 22kn.
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rschap
Mar 12, 2009, 1:32 AM
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You know I didn't even think about that, Adatesman did any of the slings break before the units?
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basilisk
Mar 12, 2009, 2:22 AM
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I'm in. Steel lil-bro, at 27.5kN
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adatesman
Mar 12, 2009, 3:02 AM
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krosbakken
Mar 12, 2009, 3:37 AM
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The green 2cam.
It will hold a solid 10kn even.
edit: thats my guess, if I win I better get a prize.   
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rschap
Mar 12, 2009, 3:43 AM
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If I understand what you are saying, each person rates every cam at what they think they cracked at. Then we figure out who was the closest without going over on the most cams and they win. If there is a tie then we see how much closer each person was on their guesses and who ever was the closest wins. If there is still a tie I guess I could just make another camhook. If this is ok with the three that have already entered then I think this will work better. No copying other peoples totals all numbers must be different. I think just copy the list and put your guess before the name to make it easier to read (i.e.
1000kn Mank
750kn Top Secret Cam Prototype Version 2.1
1500kn Green 2cam
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Mank
Top Secret Cam Prototype Version 2.1
Green 2cam
Aluminum Lilbro
Kenn's Kam
Webcam
Steel Lilbro
Flexy Lady (size green)
The Zibenator
Nutter
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krosbakken
Mar 12, 2009, 3:52 AM
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My guesses:
8.3kN Mank
9.1kN Top Secret Cam Prototype Version 2.1
10.20kN Green 2cam
13.48kN Aluminum Lilbro
5.76kN Kenn's Kam
12.58kN Webcam
17.40kN Steel Lilbro
8.01kN Flexy Lady (size green)
7.65kN The Zibenator
6.67kN Nutter
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rschap
Mar 12, 2009, 3:57 AM
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Yes this is correct. I thinking a few slings broke before the cams  but Aric wont say.
Also no bets after the results are posted.
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northfacejmb
Mar 12, 2009, 4:27 AM
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Kenn's Cam at around 17.2 KN
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adatesman
Mar 12, 2009, 4:51 AM
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kachoong
Mar 12, 2009, 12:44 PM
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My guesses are:
6.75kN Mank
7.85kN Top Secret Cam Prototype Version 2.1
9.75kN Green 2cam
12.45kN Aluminum Lilbro
6.25kN Kenn's Kam
13.55kN Webcam
19.95kN Steel Lilbro
7.15kN Flexy Lady (size green)
6.95kN The Zibenator
9.95kN Nutter
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kennoyce
Mar 12, 2009, 2:40 PM
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ok, here are my new guesses
21 kN - Mank
17 kN - Top Secret Cam Prototype Version 2.1
9.5 kN - Green 2cam
7 kN - Aluminum Lilbro
21.7 kN - Kenn's Kam
13.2 kN - Webcam
12.4 kN - Steel Lilbro
7.6 kN - Flexy Lady (size green)
14.8 kN - The Zibenator
7.2 kN - Nutter
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Johnny_Fang
Mar 12, 2009, 2:48 PM
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adatesman wrote: Yup, that's what I'm suggesting. Everyone bet on each of them and then you guys figure what way you want to pick the winner. Whether its by whoever's closest to the one that held the most or by some aggregate score makes no difference to me.... The one and only hint I'll give is that you'll be better off with everyone rating all of them rather than picking one and giving a number for it.
sounds like there was a ten-way tie, boys.
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cosmicharlie
Mar 12, 2009, 3:03 PM
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Nice idea i'm in the mood for a little price is right...
23kN - Mank- nut on axle blow off
15 kN - Top Secret Cam - sling break at eyeloop
12 kN - Green 2cam - cable
10 kN - Aluminum Lilbro - deforms and pops
18 kN - Kenn's Kam - sling joint
16 kN - Webcam - warps then pow
8 kN - Steel Lilbro - cut cord
9kN - Flexy Lady - failure at top swage
13.5 kN - The Zibenator - chain link weld break
9 kN - Nutter - failure at lower swage.
Can't wait to see the parts fly!
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angry
Mar 12, 2009, 3:14 PM
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I'm not playing but I don't think the Zibernator would fail even if the welds broke.
That thing is as strong as it's axle.
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kennoyce
Mar 12, 2009, 6:08 PM
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I'm with you there, I personally think that the zibernator will fail by slipping out of the fixture due to the cam angle not being very consistent since it was cut out with a hacksaw.
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cosmicharlie
Mar 12, 2009, 7:57 PM
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how big is that axle on the zibenator?
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fxgranite
Mar 12, 2009, 8:37 PM
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I'm in.
22.3 kN - Mank
20.3 kN - Top Secret Cam Prototype Version 2.1
5.6 kN - Green 2cam
20.1 kN - Aluminum Lilbro
15.3 kN - Kenn's Kam
6.3 kN - Webcam
10.1 kN - Steel Lilbro
22.8 kN - Flexy Lady (size green)
19.2 kN - The Zibenator
13.2 kN - Nutter
Man you can really tell I have no idea what these forces are like huh?
Maybe I'm just an optimist
EDIT to change the steel lilbro. I just noticed it is cord rather than a sling which brings my guess down a whole lot
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adatesman
Mar 13, 2009, 3:34 PM
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iron106
Mar 13, 2009, 3:58 PM
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1 kN - Mank
1 kN - Top Secret Cam Prototype Version 2.1
1 kN - Green 2cam
1 kN - Aluminum Lilbro
1 kN - Kenn's Kam
1 kN - Webcam
1 kN - Steel Lilbro
1 kN - Flexy Lady (size green)
1 kN - The Zibenator
1 kN - Nutter
incase it is not too late. Like bidding 1 Dollar in the price is right.
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wishiwasamonkey
Mar 13, 2009, 4:26 PM
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I'm in. I also liked how cosmic guessed at modes of failure and guessed the same modes on all but a couple.
30kN - Mank- nut on axle blow off (or it greases out at 0kN from too steep a cam angle)
16 kN - Top Secret Cam - sling break at knot
15 kN - Green 2cam - cable
15 kN - Aluminum Lilbro - deforms and pops
22 kN - Kenn's Kam - sling fails
25 kN - Webcam - lobes buckle
7 kN - Steel Lilbro - cut cord
8kN - Flexy Lady - failure at top swage
10 kN - The Zibenator - chain link weld break
8 kN - Nutter - failure at top swage.
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Johnny_Fang
Mar 13, 2009, 4:28 PM
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7 kN - Mank
5 kN - Top Secret Cam Prototype Version 2.1
4 kN - Green 2cam
1 kN - Aluminum Lilbro
3 kN - Kenn's Kam
8 kN - Webcam
1 kN - Steel Lilbro
5 kN - Flexy Lady (size green)
5 kN - The Zibenator
8 kN - Nutter
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