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seatbeltpants


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awesome photos, defintely making me appreciate what the chossy (but clean) rock i have to put up with!

nice work, might rack a shovel next time i head out just to see the look on people's faces.

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Ya that full-on moss. I've cleaned my share of moss mayhem. I find that if you clean steeper and intern more difficult routes you will have a better time. The moss doesn't grow much on the overhanging rock. This option does present one problem. In my little area we have more 5.11's & 12's than 8's and 9's. There lots of easy rock but I don't have the time.


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At first I thought "Man, are those pictures even real? It looks like the land that time forgot, where the cliffs were overgrown with pastel colored shrubberies and moss."

Ni!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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kachoong wrote:
kobaz wrote:
At first I thought "Man, are those pictures even real? It looks like the land that time forgot, where the cliffs were overgrown with pastel colored shrubberies and moss."

Ni!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Neeeeeeeewom!


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The way this is going... how do you rack a herring?


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probably with an african swallow.


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With or without the coconut?


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The endangered (but dormant) spiny Himalayan Blackberry. There was a real nice ledge underneath this, nice and flat, about 80-100' off the deck, 10' long, almost flat.


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Billcoe-

I was curious to know what the purpose was in cleaning the area up in those first pictures? It..just.. looked like a scramble? I'm not trying to be fresh I'm genuienly curious.

If I recall correctly- Dingus had an excellent photo journal of sorts about bushwacking and route development. It might have been posted on SuperTopo though. My memory eludes me as to where they were. And sorry to call you out Dingus I just recall that thread and thought it was sort of relevant.

-Mike Saint


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MikeSaint wrote:
Billcoe-

I was curious to know what the purpose was in cleaning the area up in those first pictures? It..just.. looked like a scramble? I'm not trying to be fresh I'm genuienly curious.

If I recall correctly- Dingus had an excellent photo journal of sorts about bushwacking and route development. It might have been posted on SuperTopo though. My memory eludes me as to where they were. And sorry to call you out Dingus I just recall that thread and thought it was sort of relevant.

-Mike Saint

Really? Well, OK, since you asked so nice, I start with the supposition that it is better to climb something, rather than nothing. Thats.... "better to climb something, rather than nothing." It will rain all week here, and during that time, you can still put a raincoat on and clean off something. When it stops you climb.

I've done Epinephrine and Serenity Crack/Sons of Yesterday.... multiple times, they are long, fun, dry and clean. I'd love to do that every day. However, they are in other states and a long round trip drive.

Epi.


At one time, I co-owned 22 rental houses with my brother. He lived in another state and I did all the work. I also worked full time, and raised a family (my #1 priority) during this same time period. I had to keep my trips close enough to put my kids down at night, and take care of business too as my wife worked the night shift -weekends. It was a hard row to ho, but ho I did. And I climbed in what free time I had left. As a small business owner now (I own my dream business now) I still have time management issues. I have more free time as the kids are out of the house. Youngest son is in college now.

I start and end with the supposition that it is better to climb something, rather than nothing. Organize and execute around written priorities Mike. I can't live your life, you can't mine. However, I have no complaints. I've had good relationships and have lived a rich, deep, interesting and materially rewarding life... so far.

Regards

Bill

ps, these little lumps were a ball to crawl over, great fun with my buddies on a marginal day. I was back home by 4 pm too! We all agreed it was a super time. Frankly, I have to say that I enjoyed them as much as many great and famous routes you may have heard of. As far as cleaning them goes, that is a responsibility we take seriously for the second party, to clean the loose and dangerous rocks off, maybe the dirt and the cracks too.

Regards

Bill


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MikeSaint


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Right on, thanks for the read.

I've always wondered how people manage Life and still find time to play. I guess you just *do* and do what you can.

Props for those orginal pictures. Never walked on moss much less climb around it. (Hopefully it stays that way)

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