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USnavy
Dec 8, 2010, 7:17 AM
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healyje wrote: Love this rope. My standard is the Mammut Supersafe 10.2 and this rope handles very similar. It has a unique twill sheath compared to most ropes and I'm guessing it will perform almost as well as significantly better than the Supersafe's.
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healyje
Dec 8, 2010, 10:09 AM
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USnavy wrote: healyje wrote: Love this rope. My standard is the Mammut Supersafe 10.2 and this rope handles very similar. It has a unique twill sheath compared to most ropes and I'm guessing it will perform almost as well as significantly better than the Supersafe's. Fixed that for you.
Not really. If I'm going up on anything hairball, it's the Supersafe I'm leading on every time.
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notapplicable
Dec 8, 2010, 2:17 PM
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USnavy wrote: notapplicable wrote: USnavy wrote: They do have a rather high impact force though so I wouldn’t use them for trad. Is this borne out by empirical observation (hard catches) or just theoretical based on the peak impact force rating? The rope has an impact force rating of 9.5 kN and with a dynamic elongation of only 29%, it’s not hard to see why. But yes it does give a harder catch than other ropes (say Beal) with a lower impact force rating. But how hard of a catch you get is also highly dependent on the belayer.
I am aware of the ropes stats and the role a dynamic belay plays in reducing peak impact forces. Neither of which did I asked you about.
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spikeddem
Dec 8, 2010, 2:58 PM
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notapplicable wrote: USnavy wrote: notapplicable wrote: USnavy wrote: They do have a rather high impact force though so I wouldn’t use them for trad. Is this borne out by empirical observation (hard catches) or just theoretical based on the peak impact force rating? The rope has an impact force rating of 9.5 kN and with a dynamic elongation of only 29%, it’s not hard to see why. But yes it does give a harder catch than other ropes (say Beal) with a lower impact force rating. But how hard of a catch you get is also highly dependent on the belayer. I am aware of the ropes stats and the role a dynamic belay plays in reducing peak impact forces. Neither of which did I asked axed you about. |
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notapplicable
Dec 8, 2010, 7:29 PM
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spikeddem wrote: notapplicable wrote: USnavy wrote: notapplicable wrote: USnavy wrote: They do have a rather high impact force though so I wouldn’t use them for trad. Is this borne out by empirical observation (hard catches) or just theoretical based on the peak impact force rating? The rope has an impact force rating of 9.5 kN and with a dynamic elongation of only 29%, it’s not hard to see why. But yes it does give a harder catch than other ropes (say Beal) with a lower impact force rating. But how hard of a catch you get is also highly dependent on the belayer. I am aware of the ropes stats and the role a dynamic belay plays in reducing peak impact forces. Neither of which did I asked axed you about.
Damn it all to hell!
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healyje
Dec 22, 2010, 3:08 AM
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USnavy wrote: They do have a rather high impact force though so I wouldn’t use them for trad.
Hard to imagine how this nonsense and sort of thinking got started - 'high impact force', 'soft catch', and 'hard catch' - I can't think of anything more pointlessly irrelevant and I do more marginal-pro free climbing than most. "Catch" doesn't even make it on the list of things I'm concerned about when I buy a rope.
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