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mwelly007
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Where is the best place to live in order to easily access both of these amazing activites? Perferrably the West Coast, like California. Any thoughts?
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squishy654
Aug 18, 2009, 4:52 PM
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Sacramento... Two hours to the best climbing Two hours to the best surfing Nice big modern city with more than enough California to go around...
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caughtinside
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To surf you HAVE to live at the beach. Which generally puts you a few hours from the rocks. I like Sacramento a lot, but it's a terrible place to live if surfing is your passion. But it's better than Minnesota.
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Thailand. In the US, the only places to surf seriously are California and Hawaii. And there ain't no climbing in Hawaii.
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mwelly007
Aug 18, 2009, 7:25 PM
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i have friends in Sacramento. its near everything, but close to nothing. i want to be able to do something before or after work on the weekdays.
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In reply to: In the US, the only places to surf seriously are California and Hawaii. The only place to surf seriously and consistently is prolly california. but obx gets some pretty killer hurricane swell several times a year, and on portsmouth one day this past june it was 6 foot, glassy and peeling. truly all time. we had a pretty good weekend, hit Ship rock, then drove to morris marina, and on portsmouth the next day.
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FRESNO. 2 hours to world class surf and 2 hours to world class climbing. Short trip to LA and a short trip to SF. There is plenty of work here too. The closest crag does take me 40 minutes to get to though (tollhouse or square nail). That kinda sucks. And they are hot in the summer. So I have to jam up to the high Sierras on the weekends. Usually Yos or Courtright to escape the heat. My surf spots include pretty much everything south of Big Sur down to about San Onofre.
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shimanilami
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mwelly007 wrote: i have friends in Sacramento. its near everything, but close to nothing. i want to be able to do something before or after work on the weekdays. You'll need to choose one or the other. You can't have both. Is proximity to surfing and climbing your only consideration? If so, I envy you. If not, perhaps you could tell us what other factors weigh in. Having lived in California all my life, I know a thing or two about other things our state has to offer.
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Aug 18, 2009, 7:53 PM
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Fresno? Sacramento? You've got to be kidding me. Living in a shithole so that you can be 2 hours from the things you love to do is no way to live at all.
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sgreer
Aug 18, 2009, 8:01 PM
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I'm only here for money. I would be in the foothills otherwise. But, since the scratch is good and I can climb in Yos or Tuolumne every weekend I'll stay....for now
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csproul
Aug 18, 2009, 8:16 PM
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jamatt wrote: In reply to: In the US, the only places to surf seriously are California and Hawaii. The only place to surf seriously and consistently is prolly california. but obx gets some pretty killer hurricane swell several times a year, and on portsmouth one day this past june it was 6 foot, glassy and peeling. truly all time. we had a pretty good weekend, hit Ship rock, then drove to morris marina, and on portsmouth the next day. True, but if you are anywhere near the coast in NC you are nowhere near the climbing. So you can live near the coast for those rare times there is good surf. Or you can live near climbing and drive all day to get to rare surf, and the surf might be gone by the time you get there. Your example, Portsmouth is 340 miles and about 8 hours away from Ship Rock. At best you could live about four hours from either place. So no, if you really want to surf and climb, I'd say that NC is probably not the place to live.
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jamatt
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In reply to: So no, if you really want to surf and climb, I'd say that NC is probably not the place to live. No doubt. I'm just saying that when the surf is good, it's real good.
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San Diego is bar far the best option. I live here and pursue both sports. Surfing is as close as you would like. Blacks Beach, Sunset Cliffs, Scripts are all great breaks. Tahquitz is about 2 or so hours away with amazing trad climbing. If you're intro sport there is Eagle Peak (a few trad lines, mostly sport), Corde Madera (trad and sport) and in Riverside there is the quarry ( Hard Sport). San Diego is just about the greatest place to live as far as climate, its always climbing season.
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You could live in a shithole like Sacramento and have VERY CROWDED world class climbing and surfing 2 hours away. Or, you could live in a nice place (I won't say where), with a modest population, low pollution, not much traffic, easygoing people, with very good (but not "world class") climbing and surfing within an hour or less each, and have the spots all to yourself...no fees, no crowds, litter, crag/surf dogs, etc..... Food for thought. A perfect day at a modest crag beats a modest day at the perfect crag every time.
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caughtinside wrote: To surf you HAVE to live at the beach. Which generally puts you a few hours from the rocks. I like Sacramento a lot, but it's a terrible place to live if surfing is your passion. But it's better than Minnesota. Dude Minnesota is the bomb you just gotta get used to surfing on 3 ft swells and wearing a 7mm wetsuit.
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San Diego or Santa Barbara. You have to live close to the beach (like a couple of miles) if you want to surf even semi seriously.
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Oregon or California. I'm not a surfer though...but I always saw surfers at the beach in Newport, Oregon...and Smith Rock is there in Terrebonne. I lived in Sacramento...Its really nice to drive up to Tahoe whenever or down to the Eastern Sierras. Love the Owen's River Gorge and Bishop :) Sacramento is good for a midpoint, but if you are more into surfing, you might go for Santa Barbara or similar...and if you are more into climbing, go for Folsom or Placerville.
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You could start river surfing instead. You'd might have more success finding a river with good surfing waves near a high quality climbing destination.
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This is true I surf my kayak every weekend. Rivers ussually have a nice wave somewhere. Some are mean some are real smooth and if your in a river here in the southeast there are boulders everywhere. Not to mention the damn good climbing also. But I dont use a board to surf. I use a kayak and get in some nice runs down a river. I go home with my eyes the size of dinner plates every saturday and sunday in the summer. Adrenaline yea its at the big rivers. Ocean is mellow in comparison
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shimanilami wrote: Thailand. In the US, the only places to surf seriously are California and Hawaii. And there ain't no climbing in Hawaii. Wrong. However if climbing is high on your list, there are better states to live in then Hawaii.
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squishy654 wrote: Sacramento... Two hours to the best climbing Two hours to the best surfing Nice big modern city with more than enough California to go around... You also get the largest selection of rednecks. The weather sucks in sac compared to socal, but you do have rivers, which you won't have down south...
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Check out Arcata, California, or more generally- Lost Rocks. Miles of beach bouldering and great surf, some sport routes along some of the cliffs as well. I'll be moving there in less than 2 months.
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squishy654
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gmggg wrote: squishy654 wrote: Sacramento... Two hours to the best climbing Two hours to the best surfing Nice big modern city with more than enough California to go around... You also get the largest selection of rednecks. The weather sucks in sac compared to socal, but you do have rivers, which you won't have down south... You may have found that to be true in the past but with all the state workers and the growth of Rancho Cordova, Roseville and Folsom it's a thriving city with jobs which rival the Bay area, including companies like Intel, Microsoft and HP. I truly don't see rednecks, ever in Sac and I've been living here for years. I use to think the same thing you do when I lived in the Bay area, Sac was just rednecks and fields, but it's untrue, so if you wouldn't mind, stop propagating false information...You should b talking about Lodi or Stockton if you hate rednecks...
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cporter wrote: ...Tahquitz is about 2 or so hours away with amazing trad climbing. If you're intro sport there is Eagle Peak (a few trad lines, mostly sport), Corde Madera (trad and sport) and in Riverside there is the quarry ( Hard Sport). I think SD is a great city (though I'd rather live in a town--too bad for me I don't). Tahquitz is great but a bit of a drive, and I love Mt. Woodson, but it's really cruel to tell some out of towner that he'll be psyched to be close to the Riverside quarry... ;)
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squishy654 wrote: gmggg wrote: squishy654 wrote: Sacramento... Two hours to the best climbing Two hours to the best surfing Nice big modern city with more than enough California to go around... You also get the largest selection of rednecks. The weather sucks in sac compared to socal, but you do have rivers, which you won't have down south... You may have found that to be true in the past but with all the state workers and the growth of Rancho Cordova, Roseville and Folsom it's a thriving city with jobs which rival the Bay area, including companies like Intel, Microsoft and HP. I truly don't see rednecks, ever in Sac and I've been living here for years. I use to think the same thing you do when I lived in the Bay area, Sac was just rednecks and fields, but it's untrue, so if you wouldn't mind, stop propagating false information...You should b talking about Lodi or Stockton if you hate rednecks... I'd rather live among the rednecks than in the Bay area. I've spent the equivalent of several months there on business and pleasure over the last few years. 90% of the population are stressed out dooshes that are so worried about making the lease payment on their BMW that they've forgotten how to be nice. The other 10% are homeless. Yuck. IT would be an amazing place to live, if everyone currently there left...... OP, how tied down are you? Spend winter in Hawaii and summer in the Sierras.....if I were young and obligation free that's what I'd do for a couple years at least.
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dynosore wrote: squishy654 wrote: gmggg wrote: squishy654 wrote: Sacramento... Two hours to the best climbing Two hours to the best surfing Nice big modern city with more than enough California to go around... You also get the largest selection of rednecks. The weather sucks in sac compared to socal, but you do have rivers, which you won't have down south... You may have found that to be true in the past but with all the state workers and the growth of Rancho Cordova, Roseville and Folsom it's a thriving city with jobs which rival the Bay area, including companies like Intel, Microsoft and HP. I truly don't see rednecks, ever in Sac and I've been living here for years. I use to think the same thing you do when I lived in the Bay area, Sac was just rednecks and fields, but it's untrue, so if you wouldn't mind, stop propagating false information...You should b talking about Lodi or Stockton if you hate rednecks... I'd rather live among the rednecks than in the Bay area. I've spent the equivalent of several months there on business and pleasure over the last few years. 90% of the population are stressed out dooshes that are so worried about making the lease payment on their BMW that they've forgotten how to be nice. The other 10% are homeless. Yuck. IT would be an amazing place to live, if everyone currently there left...... OP, how tied down are you? Spend winter in Hawaii and summer in the Sierras.....if I were young and obligation free that's what I'd do for a couple years at least. I don't hate rednecks. My comment was precise, you get the largest "selection" of rednecks. The influx of younger people doesn't help in this case. It's more of an overall attitude and culture in sac than an issue of race or social class. The bay area can suck, but not cause of the homeless. Those douches and their stressed out lives are also the primary source of income for the outdoor industry. Next time you enjoy your outdoor goods thank them for spending a lot of money for their gore-tex coffee jacket and color matched ultra-light tent-cum-shelf decoration.
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I like LA and the Bay for a vacation, but definitely not for living. I lived in Reno/Tahoe for 2 years and love Truckee, and have tons of friends there. I was contemplating Santa Cruz, but now am thinking for south, like San Louis Obispo. I heard its expensive, but hopefully I land a full-time engineering job. I plan to climb and surf after/before work, which is why I want it close. Weekends I can cruise to Tahoe/Yosemite/Joshua Tree/Red Rocks/etc. Basically... is SLO tight?
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shimanilami wrote: Thailand. In the US, the only places to surf seriously are California and Hawaii. And there ain't no climbing in Hawaii. I WISH! Absolutely no surfing in Thailand. Australia?
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csproul wrote: jamatt wrote: In reply to: In the US, the only places to surf seriously are California and Hawaii. The only place to surf seriously and consistently is prolly california. but obx gets some pretty killer hurricane swell several times a year, and on portsmouth one day this past june it was 6 foot, glassy and peeling. truly all time. we had a pretty good weekend, hit Ship rock, then drove to morris marina, and on portsmouth the next day. True, but if you are anywhere near the coast in NC you are nowhere near the climbing. So you can live near the coast for those rare times there is good surf. Or you can live near climbing and drive all day to get to rare surf, and the surf might be gone by the time you get there. Your example, Portsmouth is 340 miles and about 8 hours away from Ship Rock. At best you could live about four hours from either place. So no, if you really want to surf and climb, I'd say that NC is probably not the place to live. You are right... it's not a good example at all. BUT, when I'm in NC it takes me 2 hours to get from my house to Wrightville... another hour to paddle to Masonboro if I need to. It takes me 3 hours to get to Ship Rock and good bouldering, and less than two to get to Moore's Wall. But for me that's not good enough. I gave up on surfing (for now) and moved to Thailand, where I can be 400 feet off the ground, and 20 minutes later be in the ocean :) I'm moving to Australia next year, and will be living within and hour of the surf and an hour or two of climbing. Of course I have no money and no possessions. You can't have it all... if you can find out how to climb and REALLY surf, you've found heaven.
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squishy654 wrote: Sacramento... Two hours to the best climbing Two hours to the best surfing Nice big modern city with more than enough California to go around... hahahhahah yeah right! So Cal is way closer to good surf spots that Sac is. We got tons of good crags down here too within an hours drive as well.
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brotherbbock wrote: squishy654 wrote: Sacramento... Two hours to the best climbing Two hours to the best surfing Nice big modern city with more than enough California to go around... hahahhahah yeah right! So Cal is way closer to good surf spots that Sac is. We got tons of good crags down here too within an hours drive as well. I was referring to the "best" climbing...as in lovers leap and Yosemite (3 hrs). I have plenty of granite within 45 minutes and plenty of other types of rock nearby...you can argue Yosemite and lovers leap aren't the best, but I won't agree...even Tahoe has tons of great climbing, too much to really list actually...
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Depends whats important to you, surfing or climbing. Coming from a surfing background, I'm amazed at the parralells in surfing and climbing. There are so many levels you can take it to, its physical, its mental, the comeradery, the FUN. Surprised no one said North Shore oahu. I live in Waialua, we've got literally 100's of the best surf spots in the world within 5-15 minurtes away. ( surfguidehawaii.com ) You could even get into the "extreme" big wave tow-in surfing. I love that stuff, but took years to get there. Anything worth doing aint easy, or rewarding. I'm a beginning rock climber, but theres bouldering at waimea bay (go surf then boulder), and what looks to my uneducated eyes pretty decent climbing within 15 minutes. I guess not the variety of climbing as elsewhere, but hey, good enough for me.
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Adrian_Falcus wrote: Check out Arcata, California, or more generally- Lost Rocks. Miles of beach bouldering and great surf, some sport routes along some of the cliffs as well. I'll be moving there in less than 2 months. There is no surf in Humboldt. SoCal is where you should move to.
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YOu're talking about the San Francisco Bay Area? Stressed out dooches? Where? Scruz, 1:45 hr (surf) Jailhouse/GoldWall(hard sport)1:45 hrs... I don't surf, I would love to have time for that too...but I would pick Santa Cruz or somewhere around here (Pleasanton)
dynosore wrote: I'd rather live among the rednecks than in the Bay area. I've spent the equivalent of several months there on business and pleasure over the last few years. 90% of the population are stressed out dooshes that are so worried about making the lease payment on their BMW that they've forgotten how to be nice. The other 10% are homeless. Yuck. IT would be an amazing place to live, if everyone currently there left...... OP, how tied down are you? Spend winter in Hawaii and summer in the Sierras.....if I were young and obligation free that's what I'd do for a couple years at least.
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Why would you have to drive to Santa Cruz from San Fran? Ocean Beach in San Fran is a great, very powerfull, although cooooold surf spot. Ive surfed it. More power=less crowds.
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