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erisspirit


Jan 18, 2012, 10:51 AM
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I still need to figure out a backpack for my trip!

I don't know very much about winter packs except they have ice axe loops :P any tips on shopping for one. The stores by my house don't have too much in the way of options, so I'm going to have to hunt for one.


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#1 issue I see a lot; They bought the wrong size.
Wrong size carry capacity and also wrong size for their size torso.

For winter trips get a 75 - 80 liter. You want as much stuff inside the pack as you can.

Avoid "bells and whistles" extra straps and doo-dads look pretty, but will just end up annoying you in the end. Functionality and durability is your best bet.

I do like to have gear loops and small pockets on the waist belt. Very handy for clipping a water bottle...and in the pockets I like to keep a compass, sunscreen, lip balm, and 'cat crap'.

Make sure all the compression straps are long enough to actually function.

Also consider how well it will carry skis. And do you want a 'mud room' compartment for avy gear? Very handy for carrying your shovel and probe.

BCA makes great ski packs.

If possible, put weight in the pack and feel how it rides. Is the hip belt comfy?

Also, the whistles on the chest strap are cute.

...But I digress.


Lazlo


Jan 18, 2012, 11:08 AM
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Side note; As far as avys are concerned; you want everything inside your pack so that nothing is torn loose during the slide.

Imagine needing your probe and shovel to save your friend, but you just lost them in the slide.


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Lazlo wrote:
#1 issue I see a lot; They bought the wrong size.
Wrong size carry capacity and also wrong size for their size torso.

For winter trips get a 75 - 80 liter. You want as much stuff inside the pack as you can.

Avoid "bells and whistles" extra straps and doo-dads look pretty, but will just end up annoying you in the end. Functionality and durability is your best bet.

I do like to have gear loops and small pockets on the waist belt. Very handy for clipping a water bottle...and in the pockets I like to keep a compass, sunscreen, lip balm, and 'cat crap'.

Make sure all the compression straps are long enough to actually function.

Also consider how well it will carry skis. And do you want a 'mud room' compartment for avy gear? Very handy for carrying your shovel and probe.

BCA makes great ski packs.

If possible, put weight in the pack and feel how it rides. Is the hip belt comfy?

Also, the whistles on the chest strap are cute.

...But I digress.


So actually this brings up a question. On most websites all the 60+ liter packs are put in the weeklong category... is there a good/fast was to separate out which are winter and not?

(I hope to hunt out and actually physically try on the pack with weight, but with few socal options I need to find ones to hunt for first)


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Now I need to go unpack.
Great photos, looks like it was a blast!


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Lazlo wrote:
#1 issue I see a lot; They bought the wrong size.
Wrong size carry capacity and also wrong size for their size torso.

For winter trips get a 75 - 80 liter. You want as much stuff inside the pack as you can.

Avoid "bells and whistles" extra straps and doo-dads look pretty, but will just end up annoying you in the end. Functionality and durability is your best bet.

I do like to have gear loops and small pockets on the waist belt. Very handy for clipping a water bottle...and in the pockets I like to keep a compass, sunscreen, lip balm, and 'cat crap'.

Make sure all the compression straps are long enough to actually function.

Also consider how well it will carry skis. And do you want a 'mud room' compartment for avy gear? Very handy for carrying your shovel and probe.

BCA makes great ski packs.

If possible, put weight in the pack and feel how it rides. Is the hip belt comfy?

Also, the whistles on the chest strap are cute.

...But I digress.


So actually this brings up a question. On most websites all the 60+ liter packs are put in the weeklong category... is there a good/fast was to separate out which are winter and not?

(I hope to hunt out and actually physically try on the pack with weight, but with few socal options I need to find ones to hunt for first)

There aren't really any packs labeled as winter specific packs as far as I know. Some would be ice specific, but would be more in the 45 liter range.

Maybe the word "Expedition" could help with a search.


On another note:
I've seen the Gregory Denali Pro out in the wild and was fairly impressed with it. Seemed like a solid, comfortable pack.



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Can't see the facebook pics at work. What a dull life.


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Lazlo wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
#1 issue I see a lot; They bought the wrong size.
Wrong size carry capacity and also wrong size for their size torso.

For winter trips get a 75 - 80 liter. You want as much stuff inside the pack as you can.

Avoid "bells and whistles" extra straps and doo-dads look pretty, but will just end up annoying you in the end. Functionality and durability is your best bet.

I do like to have gear loops and small pockets on the waist belt. Very handy for clipping a water bottle...and in the pockets I like to keep a compass, sunscreen, lip balm, and 'cat crap'.

Make sure all the compression straps are long enough to actually function.

Also consider how well it will carry skis. And do you want a 'mud room' compartment for avy gear? Very handy for carrying your shovel and probe.

BCA makes great ski packs.

If possible, put weight in the pack and feel how it rides. Is the hip belt comfy?

Also, the whistles on the chest strap are cute.

...But I digress.


So actually this brings up a question. On most websites all the 60+ liter packs are put in the weeklong category... is there a good/fast was to separate out which are winter and not?

(I hope to hunt out and actually physically try on the pack with weight, but with few socal options I need to find ones to hunt for first)

There aren't really any packs labeled as winter specific packs as far as I know. Some would be ice specific, but would be more in the 45 liter range.

Maybe the word "Expedition" could help with a search.


On another note:
I've seen the Gregory Denali Pro out in the wild and was fairly impressed with it. Seemed like a solid, comfortable pack.

Ok that helps... I already have a 70 liter pack, I just don't think it would be good for snow...


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erisspirit wrote:
donald949 wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
sungam wrote:
johnwesely wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
hmmm people are trying to convince me to do Cactus to Clouds this weekend...

I think they are trying to kill me...

What is that!
Google says it is a long hike with 10k feet of gain.

that...

Go from the Palm Springs up to the top of San Jacinto...

luckily there is a bail point at only 8,000 feet of gain :P and there is beer there

I was on the 8,000 to 10,000 part a couple weeks ago and it's meh... not clear but not enough snow to make it awesome...
Via snow creek?
That is THE SoCal Alpine climb.
But a bit much for me. I'll take the tram.

no snow creek is a different route. C to C is a popular trail for your avid hiker. It starts near a museum in Palm Springs I think
Ill haz 2 look N2 dat.


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sungam wrote:
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Weather looks bad this weekend. Maybe no climbing after all.
Sad thymes.
Sew after a month of grate weather. Winter iz back wit us. Las weekend it rained on the sunday. Lucky 2 get ought sat B4 the rain on the Sun. This weakend calls 4 the rain F-S-S. Me kids r supposed to be ina phun run at Legoland. Iz nice write noa, but the weekend iz looking bleak. Mad


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donald949 wrote:
sungam wrote:
johnwesely wrote:
Weather looks bad this weekend. Maybe no climbing after all.
Sad thymes.
Sew after a month of grate weather. Winter iz back wit us. Las weekend it rained on the sunday. Lucky 2 get ought sat B4 the rain on the Sun. This weakend calls 4 the rain F-S-S. Me kids r supposed to be ina phun run at Legoland. Iz nice write noa, but the weekend iz looking bleak. Mad


YAY winter!!!


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sungam wrote:
donald949 wrote:
airscape wrote:
Wuzz up guys!!

So I want to search a wikipedia today and I get the strike thing..

Why does Americas fucking war with the interwebz??

War on Error404 iz the new war on terror?
I don't know...
My questions though is, since when is wikipedia a political action site? Mad
Since they face the real risk of being taken offline by SOPA/PIPA without evidence. due process, or even actually breaking the law.
So wat iz the SOPA/PIPA? Did knot here any bout it till the udder day. Noa every won iz running around yealling the sky is falling, but knot saying how. Mad


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erisspirit wrote:
donald949 wrote:
sungam wrote:
johnwesely wrote:
Weather looks bad this weekend. Maybe no climbing after all.
Sad thymes.
Sew after a month of grate weather. Winter iz back wit us. Las weekend it rained on the sunday. Lucky 2 get ought sat B4 the rain on the Sun. This weakend calls 4 the rain F-S-S. Me kids r supposed to be ina phun run at Legoland. Iz nice write noa, but the weekend iz looking bleak. Mad


YAY winter!!!
How bout weather on a weak day.
The weekend iz for the playtime. An I no want 2 sit inside starring at walls while it rains rains rains.
bla


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Jan 19, 2012, 11:18 AM
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erisspirit wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
#1 issue I see a lot; They bought the wrong size.
Wrong size carry capacity and also wrong size for their size torso.

For winter trips get a 75 - 80 liter. You want as much stuff inside the pack as you can.

Avoid "bells and whistles" extra straps and doo-dads look pretty, but will just end up annoying you in the end. Functionality and durability is your best bet.

I do like to have gear loops and small pockets on the waist belt. Very handy for clipping a water bottle...and in the pockets I like to keep a compass, sunscreen, lip balm, and 'cat crap'.

Make sure all the compression straps are long enough to actually function.

Also consider how well it will carry skis. And do you want a 'mud room' compartment for avy gear? Very handy for carrying your shovel and probe.

BCA makes great ski packs.

If possible, put weight in the pack and feel how it rides. Is the hip belt comfy?

Also, the whistles on the chest strap are cute.

...But I digress.


So actually this brings up a question. On most websites all the 60+ liter packs are put in the weeklong category... is there a good/fast was to separate out which are winter and not?

(I hope to hunt out and actually physically try on the pack with weight, but with few socal options I need to find ones to hunt for first)

There aren't really any packs labeled as winter specific packs as far as I know. Some would be ice specific, but would be more in the 45 liter range.

Maybe the word "Expedition" could help with a search.


On another note:
I've seen the Gregory Denali Pro out in the wild and was fairly impressed with it. Seemed like a solid, comfortable pack.
[image]http://campsavercontent.campsavercm.netdna-cdn.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/350x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/e/denali_pro_105_chilired.jpg[/image]

Ok that helps... I already have a 70 liter pack, I just don't think it would be good for snow...
I'm guessing if the pockets openings seal up good it should work.


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donald949 wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
donald949 wrote:
sungam wrote:
johnwesely wrote:
Weather looks bad this weekend. Maybe no climbing after all.
Sad thymes.
Sew after a month of grate weather. Winter iz back wit us. Las weekend it rained on the sunday. Lucky 2 get ought sat B4 the rain on the Sun. This weakend calls 4 the rain F-S-S. Me kids r supposed to be ina phun run at Legoland. Iz nice write noa, but the weekend iz looking bleak. Mad


YAY winter!!!
How bout weather on a weak day.
The weekend iz for the playtime. An I no want 2 sit inside starring at walls while it rains rains rains.
bla

I guess weather during teh week would be better...

If it rains... I'm going for a rain run!


erisspirit


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went tu teh gym and bouldered yesterday! tried overhanging stuff... Then did some crimpy my style stuff... Wuz still scared of climbing tu high up and falling but I did ok.

nao I'm sore but I think I'm climbing tonight still!


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erisspirit wrote:
donald949 wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
donald949 wrote:
sungam wrote:
johnwesely wrote:
Weather looks bad this weekend. Maybe no climbing after all.
Sad thymes.
Sew after a month of grate weather. Winter iz back wit us. Las weekend it rained on the sunday. Lucky 2 get ought sat B4 the rain on the Sun. This weakend calls 4 the rain F-S-S. Me kids r supposed to be ina phun run at Legoland. Iz nice write noa, but the weekend iz looking bleak. Mad


YAY winter!!!
How bout weather on a weak day.
The weekend iz for the playtime. An I no want 2 sit inside starring at walls while it rains rains rains.
bla

I guess weather during teh week would be better...

If it rains... I'm going for a rain run!
Hiking might be good. The boys are doing cub scouts. I'll tell them we're practicing and building character. Laugh


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Weather looks bad this weekend. Maybe no climbing after all.

Been the same here. Gym climbing and that's it. Curitiba is known here for it's rain, and it's rained at points during just about every day the past two weeks. And by rain, I'm not talking about some panzy daily Scottish rain totals, I'm talking about four to five inches of rain per day usually coming down in about 2-3 hours of a steady, drenching downpour, and time of day does not matter. Unsure


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Lazlo wrote:
Lower Boyscout Lake


I would appreciate this place in summer.


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Lazlo wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
#1 issue I see a lot; They bought the wrong size.
Wrong size carry capacity and also wrong size for their size torso.

For winter trips get a 75 - 80 liter. You want as much stuff inside the pack as you can.

Avoid "bells and whistles" extra straps and doo-dads look pretty, but will just end up annoying you in the end. Functionality and durability is your best bet.

I do like to have gear loops and small pockets on the waist belt. Very handy for clipping a water bottle...and in the pockets I like to keep a compass, sunscreen, lip balm, and 'cat crap'.

Make sure all the compression straps are long enough to actually function.

Also consider how well it will carry skis. And do you want a 'mud room' compartment for avy gear? Very handy for carrying your shovel and probe.

BCA makes great ski packs.

If possible, put weight in the pack and feel how it rides. Is the hip belt comfy?

Also, the whistles on the chest strap are cute.

...But I digress.


So actually this brings up a question. On most websites all the 60+ liter packs are put in the weeklong category... is there a good/fast was to separate out which are winter and not?

(I hope to hunt out and actually physically try on the pack with weight, but with few socal options I need to find ones to hunt for first)

There aren't really any packs labeled as winter specific packs as far as I know. Some would be ice specific, but would be more in the 45 liter range.

Maybe the word "Expedition" could help with a search.


On another note:
I've seen the Gregory Denali Pro out in the wild and was fairly impressed with it. Seemed like a solid, comfortable pack.
[image]http://campsavercontent.campsavercm.netdna-cdn.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/350x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/e/denali_pro_105_chilired.jpg[/image]


really really really really really really really love my gregory alpinista 50. as in, really fucking really.

it's comfy.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
#1 issue I see a lot; They bought the wrong size.
Wrong size carry capacity and also wrong size for their size torso.

For winter trips get a 75 - 80 liter. You want as much stuff inside the pack as you can.

Avoid "bells and whistles" extra straps and doo-dads look pretty, but will just end up annoying you in the end. Functionality and durability is your best bet.

I do like to have gear loops and small pockets on the waist belt. Very handy for clipping a water bottle...and in the pockets I like to keep a compass, sunscreen, lip balm, and 'cat crap'.

Make sure all the compression straps are long enough to actually function.

Also consider how well it will carry skis. And do you want a 'mud room' compartment for avy gear? Very handy for carrying your shovel and probe.

BCA makes great ski packs.

If possible, put weight in the pack and feel how it rides. Is the hip belt comfy?

Also, the whistles on the chest strap are cute.

...But I digress.


So actually this brings up a question. On most websites all the 60+ liter packs are put in the weeklong category... is there a good/fast was to separate out which are winter and not?

(I hope to hunt out and actually physically try on the pack with weight, but with few socal options I need to find ones to hunt for first)

There aren't really any packs labeled as winter specific packs as far as I know. Some would be ice specific, but would be more in the 45 liter range.

Maybe the word "Expedition" could help with a search.


On another note:
I've seen the Gregory Denali Pro out in the wild and was fairly impressed with it. Seemed like a solid, comfortable pack.
[image]http://campsavercontent.campsavercm.netdna-cdn.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/350x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/e/denali_pro_105_chilired.jpg[/image]


really really really really really really really love my gregory alpinista 50. as in, really fucking really.

it's comfy.

my bf has one of those... I really like the construction... I was worried though about it being too small for multiple nights.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
Lower Boyscout Lake

[image]http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407080_2658852865523_1081922301_2669497_1318708865_n.jpg[/image]

I would appreciate this place in summer.

It is beautiful. Maybe one day I will see a mountain!


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My Fiance got into UPenn's Phd program!


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My Fiance got into UPenn's Phd program!


WOO!


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My Fiance got into UPenn's Phd program!

My ex-gf and her current bf, both former climbing partners (though her more than him) are both doing phds there. both good people if you end up going with her and need climbing buddies.

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