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Gmburns2000


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erisspirit wrote:
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Lazlo wrote:
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Lazlo wrote:
#1 issue I see a lot; They bought the wrong size.
Wrong size carry capacity and also wrong size for their size torso.

For winter trips get a 75 - 80 liter. You want as much stuff inside the pack as you can.

Avoid "bells and whistles" extra straps and doo-dads look pretty, but will just end up annoying you in the end. Functionality and durability is your best bet.

I do like to have gear loops and small pockets on the waist belt. Very handy for clipping a water bottle...and in the pockets I like to keep a compass, sunscreen, lip balm, and 'cat crap'.

Make sure all the compression straps are long enough to actually function.

Also consider how well it will carry skis. And do you want a 'mud room' compartment for avy gear? Very handy for carrying your shovel and probe.

BCA makes great ski packs.

If possible, put weight in the pack and feel how it rides. Is the hip belt comfy?

Also, the whistles on the chest strap are cute.

...But I digress.


So actually this brings up a question. On most websites all the 60+ liter packs are put in the weeklong category... is there a good/fast was to separate out which are winter and not?

(I hope to hunt out and actually physically try on the pack with weight, but with few socal options I need to find ones to hunt for first)

There aren't really any packs labeled as winter specific packs as far as I know. Some would be ice specific, but would be more in the 45 liter range.

Maybe the word "Expedition" could help with a search.


On another note:
I've seen the Gregory Denali Pro out in the wild and was fairly impressed with it. Seemed like a solid, comfortable pack.
[image]http://campsavercontent.campsavercm.netdna-cdn.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/350x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/e/denali_pro_105_chilired.jpg[/image]


really really really really really really really love my gregory alpinista 50. as in, really fucking really.

it's comfy.

my bf has one of those... I really like the construction... I was worried though about it being too small for multiple nights.

yes, but my not-very-well-said point was more that gregory makes excellent packs that are super comfy. most REI stores have a template for measuring people to gregory packs. go there, get measured, and buy the pack online for less.


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Jan 19, 2012, 3:31 PM
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Gmburns2000 wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
#1 issue I see a lot; They bought the wrong size.
Wrong size carry capacity and also wrong size for their size torso.

For winter trips get a 75 - 80 liter. You want as much stuff inside the pack as you can.

Avoid "bells and whistles" extra straps and doo-dads look pretty, but will just end up annoying you in the end. Functionality and durability is your best bet.

I do like to have gear loops and small pockets on the waist belt. Very handy for clipping a water bottle...and in the pockets I like to keep a compass, sunscreen, lip balm, and 'cat crap'.

Make sure all the compression straps are long enough to actually function.

Also consider how well it will carry skis. And do you want a 'mud room' compartment for avy gear? Very handy for carrying your shovel and probe.

BCA makes great ski packs.

If possible, put weight in the pack and feel how it rides. Is the hip belt comfy?

Also, the whistles on the chest strap are cute.

...But I digress.


So actually this brings up a question. On most websites all the 60+ liter packs are put in the weeklong category... is there a good/fast was to separate out which are winter and not?

(I hope to hunt out and actually physically try on the pack with weight, but with few socal options I need to find ones to hunt for first)

There aren't really any packs labeled as winter specific packs as far as I know. Some would be ice specific, but would be more in the 45 liter range.

Maybe the word "Expedition" could help with a search.


On another note:
I've seen the Gregory Denali Pro out in the wild and was fairly impressed with it. Seemed like a solid, comfortable pack.
[image]http://campsavercontent.campsavercm.netdna-cdn.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/350x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/e/denali_pro_105_chilired.jpg[/image]


really really really really really really really love my gregory alpinista 50. as in, really fucking really.

it's comfy.

my bf has one of those... I really like the construction... I was worried though about it being too small for multiple nights.

yes, but my not-very-well-said point was more that gregory makes excellent packs that are super comfy. most REI stores have a template for measuring people to gregory packs. go there, get measured, and buy the pack online for less.

I have the gregory Deva right now.. I love it, suuper comfy... (just doesn't seem like it would be great in the snow) that company is def on my mind


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Jan 19, 2012, 4:00 PM
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erisspirit wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
#1 issue I see a lot; They bought the wrong size.
Wrong size carry capacity and also wrong size for their size torso.

For winter trips get a 75 - 80 liter. You want as much stuff inside the pack as you can.

Avoid "bells and whistles" extra straps and doo-dads look pretty, but will just end up annoying you in the end. Functionality and durability is your best bet.

I do like to have gear loops and small pockets on the waist belt. Very handy for clipping a water bottle...and in the pockets I like to keep a compass, sunscreen, lip balm, and 'cat crap'.

Make sure all the compression straps are long enough to actually function.

Also consider how well it will carry skis. And do you want a 'mud room' compartment for avy gear? Very handy for carrying your shovel and probe.

BCA makes great ski packs.

If possible, put weight in the pack and feel how it rides. Is the hip belt comfy?

Also, the whistles on the chest strap are cute.

...But I digress.


So actually this brings up a question. On most websites all the 60+ liter packs are put in the weeklong category... is there a good/fast was to separate out which are winter and not?

(I hope to hunt out and actually physically try on the pack with weight, but with few socal options I need to find ones to hunt for first)

There aren't really any packs labeled as winter specific packs as far as I know. Some would be ice specific, but would be more in the 45 liter range.

Maybe the word "Expedition" could help with a search.


On another note:
I've seen the Gregory Denali Pro out in the wild and was fairly impressed with it. Seemed like a solid, comfortable pack.
[image]http://campsavercontent.campsavercm.netdna-cdn.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/350x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/e/denali_pro_105_chilired.jpg[/image]


really really really really really really really love my gregory alpinista 50. as in, really fucking really.

it's comfy.

my bf has one of those... I really like the construction... I was worried though about it being too small for multiple nights.

yes, but my not-very-well-said point was more that gregory makes excellent packs that are super comfy. most REI stores have a template for measuring people to gregory packs. go there, get measured, and buy the pack online for less.

I have the gregory Deva right now.. I love it, suuper comfy... (just doesn't seem like it would be great in the snow) that company is def on my mind

well, divas aren't known to be adaptable to adverse conditions.



It's amazing how easy it still is to find the real photo on google images.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
#1 issue I see a lot; They bought the wrong size.
Wrong size carry capacity and also wrong size for their size torso.

For winter trips get a 75 - 80 liter. You want as much stuff inside the pack as you can.

Avoid "bells and whistles" extra straps and doo-dads look pretty, but will just end up annoying you in the end. Functionality and durability is your best bet.

I do like to have gear loops and small pockets on the waist belt. Very handy for clipping a water bottle...and in the pockets I like to keep a compass, sunscreen, lip balm, and 'cat crap'.

Make sure all the compression straps are long enough to actually function.

Also consider how well it will carry skis. And do you want a 'mud room' compartment for avy gear? Very handy for carrying your shovel and probe.

BCA makes great ski packs.

If possible, put weight in the pack and feel how it rides. Is the hip belt comfy?

Also, the whistles on the chest strap are cute.

...But I digress.


So actually this brings up a question. On most websites all the 60+ liter packs are put in the weeklong category... is there a good/fast was to separate out which are winter and not?

(I hope to hunt out and actually physically try on the pack with weight, but with few socal options I need to find ones to hunt for first)

There aren't really any packs labeled as winter specific packs as far as I know. Some would be ice specific, but would be more in the 45 liter range.

Maybe the word "Expedition" could help with a search.


On another note:
I've seen the Gregory Denali Pro out in the wild and was fairly impressed with it. Seemed like a solid, comfortable pack.
[image]http://campsavercontent.campsavercm.netdna-cdn.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/350x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/e/denali_pro_105_chilired.jpg[/image]


really really really really really really really love my gregory alpinista 50. as in, really fucking really.

it's comfy.

my bf has one of those... I really like the construction... I was worried though about it being too small for multiple nights.

yes, but my not-very-well-said point was more that gregory makes excellent packs that are super comfy. most REI stores have a template for measuring people to gregory packs. go there, get measured, and buy the pack online for less.

I have the gregory Deva right now.. I love it, suuper comfy... (just doesn't seem like it would be great in the snow) that company is def on my mind

well, divas aren't known to be adaptable to adverse conditions.

[image]https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS-a9P_N2VgScR0qwi_mWg2S2EPMooz5xhTqWauyXlUVF933h0baw[/image]

It's amazing how easy it still is to find the real photo on google images.

LOL!


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erisspirit wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
#1 issue I see a lot; They bought the wrong size.
Wrong size carry capacity and also wrong size for their size torso.

For winter trips get a 75 - 80 liter. You want as much stuff inside the pack as you can.

Avoid "bells and whistles" extra straps and doo-dads look pretty, but will just end up annoying you in the end. Functionality and durability is your best bet.

I do like to have gear loops and small pockets on the waist belt. Very handy for clipping a water bottle...and in the pockets I like to keep a compass, sunscreen, lip balm, and 'cat crap'.

Make sure all the compression straps are long enough to actually function.

Also consider how well it will carry skis. And do you want a 'mud room' compartment for avy gear? Very handy for carrying your shovel and probe.

BCA makes great ski packs.

If possible, put weight in the pack and feel how it rides. Is the hip belt comfy?

Also, the whistles on the chest strap are cute.

...But I digress.


So actually this brings up a question. On most websites all the 60+ liter packs are put in the weeklong category... is there a good/fast was to separate out which are winter and not?

(I hope to hunt out and actually physically try on the pack with weight, but with few socal options I need to find ones to hunt for first)

There aren't really any packs labeled as winter specific packs as far as I know. Some would be ice specific, but would be more in the 45 liter range.

Maybe the word "Expedition" could help with a search.


On another note:
I've seen the Gregory Denali Pro out in the wild and was fairly impressed with it. Seemed like a solid, comfortable pack.
[image]http://campsavercontent.campsavercm.netdna-cdn.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/350x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/e/denali_pro_105_chilired.jpg[/image]


really really really really really really really love my gregory alpinista 50. as in, really fucking really.

it's comfy.

my bf has one of those... I really like the construction... I was worried though about it being too small for multiple nights.

yes, but my not-very-well-said point was more that gregory makes excellent packs that are super comfy. most REI stores have a template for measuring people to gregory packs. go there, get measured, and buy the pack online for less.

I have the gregory Deva right now.. I love it, suuper comfy... (just doesn't seem like it would be great in the snow) that company is def on my mind

What do you mean by "wouldn't be great in the snow?"


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I laffed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74DCfV5fYr0

That japanese guy is gonna be scarred for life after that prank.

HAHAHA


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I laffed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74DCfV5fYr0

That japanese guy is gonna be scarred for life after that prank.

HAHAHA

That is a serious case of "what the fuck is wrong with the Japanese."


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
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I laffed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74DCfV5fYr0

That japanese guy is gonna be scarred for life after that prank.

HAHAHA

That is a serious case of "what the fuck is wrong with the Japanese."

Heh. Yeah.


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Lazlo wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
#1 issue I see a lot; They bought the wrong size.
Wrong size carry capacity and also wrong size for their size torso.

For winter trips get a 75 - 80 liter. You want as much stuff inside the pack as you can.

Avoid "bells and whistles" extra straps and doo-dads look pretty, but will just end up annoying you in the end. Functionality and durability is your best bet.

I do like to have gear loops and small pockets on the waist belt. Very handy for clipping a water bottle...and in the pockets I like to keep a compass, sunscreen, lip balm, and 'cat crap'.

Make sure all the compression straps are long enough to actually function.

Also consider how well it will carry skis. And do you want a 'mud room' compartment for avy gear? Very handy for carrying your shovel and probe.

BCA makes great ski packs.

If possible, put weight in the pack and feel how it rides. Is the hip belt comfy?

Also, the whistles on the chest strap are cute.

...But I digress.


So actually this brings up a question. On most websites all the 60+ liter packs are put in the weeklong category... is there a good/fast was to separate out which are winter and not?

(I hope to hunt out and actually physically try on the pack with weight, but with few socal options I need to find ones to hunt for first)

There aren't really any packs labeled as winter specific packs as far as I know. Some would be ice specific, but would be more in the 45 liter range.

Maybe the word "Expedition" could help with a search.


On another note:
I've seen the Gregory Denali Pro out in the wild and was fairly impressed with it. Seemed like a solid, comfortable pack.
[image]http://campsavercontent.campsavercm.netdna-cdn.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/350x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/e/denali_pro_105_chilired.jpg[/image]


really really really really really really really love my gregory alpinista 50. as in, really fucking really.

it's comfy.

my bf has one of those... I really like the construction... I was worried though about it being too small for multiple nights.

yes, but my not-very-well-said point was more that gregory makes excellent packs that are super comfy. most REI stores have a template for measuring people to gregory packs. go there, get measured, and buy the pack online for less.

I have the gregory Deva right now.. I love it, suuper comfy... (just doesn't seem like it would be great in the snow) that company is def on my mind

What do you mean by "wouldn't be great in the snow?"

Looks like it would work to me.


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donald949 wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
#1 issue I see a lot; They bought the wrong size.
Wrong size carry capacity and also wrong size for their size torso.

For winter trips get a 75 - 80 liter. You want as much stuff inside the pack as you can.

Avoid "bells and whistles" extra straps and doo-dads look pretty, but will just end up annoying you in the end. Functionality and durability is your best bet.

I do like to have gear loops and small pockets on the waist belt. Very handy for clipping a water bottle...and in the pockets I like to keep a compass, sunscreen, lip balm, and 'cat crap'.

Make sure all the compression straps are long enough to actually function.

Also consider how well it will carry skis. And do you want a 'mud room' compartment for avy gear? Very handy for carrying your shovel and probe.

BCA makes great ski packs.

If possible, put weight in the pack and feel how it rides. Is the hip belt comfy?

Also, the whistles on the chest strap are cute.

...But I digress.


So actually this brings up a question. On most websites all the 60+ liter packs are put in the weeklong category... is there a good/fast was to separate out which are winter and not?

(I hope to hunt out and actually physically try on the pack with weight, but with few socal options I need to find ones to hunt for first)

There aren't really any packs labeled as winter specific packs as far as I know. Some would be ice specific, but would be more in the 45 liter range.

Maybe the word "Expedition" could help with a search.


On another note:
I've seen the Gregory Denali Pro out in the wild and was fairly impressed with it. Seemed like a solid, comfortable pack.
[image]http://campsavercontent.campsavercm.netdna-cdn.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/350x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/e/denali_pro_105_chilired.jpg[/image]


really really really really really really really love my gregory alpinista 50. as in, really fucking really.

it's comfy.

my bf has one of those... I really like the construction... I was worried though about it being too small for multiple nights.

yes, but my not-very-well-said point was more that gregory makes excellent packs that are super comfy. most REI stores have a template for measuring people to gregory packs. go there, get measured, and buy the pack online for less.

I have the gregory Deva right now.. I love it, suuper comfy... (just doesn't seem like it would be great in the snow) that company is def on my mind

What do you mean by "wouldn't be great in the snow?"

Looks like it would work to me.

Hmm. If you like the Deva 50....then get the Deva 70. Should be just fine. The only down side I see is all the bells and whistles. There are too many zippers and compression straps and pockets. Any more than three pockets get's a little "mazy" to me. Yes; I just worded that. Mazy. Get over it.

But I digress.

It has a dedicated ice axe loop with it's own velcrow strap. That's a win in my opinion for being a 'winter pack'.


Kind of looks like there are two ice axe loops/straps. Can't tell.


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Lazlo wrote:
donald949 wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
#1 issue I see a lot; They bought the wrong size.
Wrong size carry capacity and also wrong size for their size torso.

For winter trips get a 75 - 80 liter. You want as much stuff inside the pack as you can.

Avoid "bells and whistles" extra straps and doo-dads look pretty, but will just end up annoying you in the end. Functionality and durability is your best bet.

I do like to have gear loops and small pockets on the waist belt. Very handy for clipping a water bottle...and in the pockets I like to keep a compass, sunscreen, lip balm, and 'cat crap'.

Make sure all the compression straps are long enough to actually function.

Also consider how well it will carry skis. And do you want a 'mud room' compartment for avy gear? Very handy for carrying your shovel and probe.

BCA makes great ski packs.

If possible, put weight in the pack and feel how it rides. Is the hip belt comfy?

Also, the whistles on the chest strap are cute.

...But I digress.


So actually this brings up a question. On most websites all the 60+ liter packs are put in the weeklong category... is there a good/fast was to separate out which are winter and not?

(I hope to hunt out and actually physically try on the pack with weight, but with few socal options I need to find ones to hunt for first)

There aren't really any packs labeled as winter specific packs as far as I know. Some would be ice specific, but would be more in the 45 liter range.

Maybe the word "Expedition" could help with a search.


On another note:
I've seen the Gregory Denali Pro out in the wild and was fairly impressed with it. Seemed like a solid, comfortable pack.


really really really really really really really love my gregory alpinista 50. as in, really fucking really.

it's comfy.

my bf has one of those... I really like the construction... I was worried though about it being too small for multiple nights.

yes, but my not-very-well-said point was more that gregory makes excellent packs that are super comfy. most REI stores have a template for measuring people to gregory packs. go there, get measured, and buy the pack online for less.

I have the gregory Deva right now.. I love it, suuper comfy... (just doesn't seem like it would be great in the snow) that company is def on my mind

What do you mean by "wouldn't be great in the snow?"

Looks like it would work to me.

Hmm. If you like the Deva 50....then get the Deva 70. Should be just fine. The only down side I see is all the bells and whistles. There are too many zippers and compression straps and pockets. Any more than three pockets get's a little "mazy" to me. Yes; I just worded that. Mazy. Get over it.

But I digress.

It has a dedicated ice axe loop with it's own velcrow strap. That's a win in my opinion for being a 'winter pack'.


Kind of looks like there are two ice axe loops/straps. Can't tell.
Mazy is a good word, I shall be using it.
My pack:


Definitely not mazy.

The only downside is the ice tool holders could be slightly better designed - the tool can push on the clip and loosen the cinchy downy thing that keeps it snug.


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sungam wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
donald949 wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
#1 issue I see a lot; They bought the wrong size.
Wrong size carry capacity and also wrong size for their size torso.

For winter trips get a 75 - 80 liter. You want as much stuff inside the pack as you can.

Avoid "bells and whistles" extra straps and doo-dads look pretty, but will just end up annoying you in the end. Functionality and durability is your best bet.

I do like to have gear loops and small pockets on the waist belt. Very handy for clipping a water bottle...and in the pockets I like to keep a compass, sunscreen, lip balm, and 'cat crap'.

Make sure all the compression straps are long enough to actually function.

Also consider how well it will carry skis. And do you want a 'mud room' compartment for avy gear? Very handy for carrying your shovel and probe.

BCA makes great ski packs.

If possible, put weight in the pack and feel how it rides. Is the hip belt comfy?

Also, the whistles on the chest strap are cute.

...But I digress.


So actually this brings up a question. On most websites all the 60+ liter packs are put in the weeklong category... is there a good/fast was to separate out which are winter and not?

(I hope to hunt out and actually physically try on the pack with weight, but with few socal options I need to find ones to hunt for first)

There aren't really any packs labeled as winter specific packs as far as I know. Some would be ice specific, but would be more in the 45 liter range.

Maybe the word "Expedition" could help with a search.


On another note:
I've seen the Gregory Denali Pro out in the wild and was fairly impressed with it. Seemed like a solid, comfortable pack.
[image]http://campsavercontent.campsavercm.netdna-cdn.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/350x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/e/denali_pro_105_chilired.jpg[/image]


really really really really really really really love my gregory alpinista 50. as in, really fucking really.

it's comfy.

my bf has one of those... I really like the construction... I was worried though about it being too small for multiple nights.

yes, but my not-very-well-said point was more that gregory makes excellent packs that are super comfy. most REI stores have a template for measuring people to gregory packs. go there, get measured, and buy the pack online for less.

I have the gregory Deva right now.. I love it, suuper comfy... (just doesn't seem like it would be great in the snow) that company is def on my mind

What do you mean by "wouldn't be great in the snow?"
[image]http://www.gregorypacks.com/cache/Products/239/460_504w/Deva70_red.png[/image]
Looks like it would work to me.

Hmm. If you like the Deva 50....then get the Deva 70. Should be just fine. The only down side I see is all the bells and whistles. There are too many zippers and compression straps and pockets. Any more than three pockets get's a little "mazy" to me. Yes; I just worded that. Mazy. Get over it.

But I digress.

It has a dedicated ice axe loop with it's own velcrow strap. That's a win in my opinion for being a 'winter pack'.


Kind of looks like there are two ice axe loops/straps. Can't tell.
Mazy is a good word, I shall be using it.
My pack:
[image]http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-72629531875391_2185_29555464[/image]

Definitely not mazy.

The only downside is the ice tool holders could be slightly better designed - the tool can push on the clip and loosen the cinchy downy thing that keeps it snug.


I'm starting to dig this chat we have going.

Here's my main pack:
Osprey Aether.


I don't like how 'dainty' it feels. Too many soft/stretchy panels. The side pockets are too small/dainty. The back pocket is too small/stretchy/open at the top. I don't like that the lid can turn into a hip belt. Why the hell would I want to do that?

It's also too small. I think it's a 60. I want at least a 75.


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Here's my secondary pack for light trips.



It's a 45 liter. My only gripe is the ice axe attachment and it's size.

The size is nice for summer personal trips, however.


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And finally, my ski pack:


I could deal with it being a smidge larger.

It does have a TON of bells and whistles....but I tend to use them all while skiing...and there isn't anything dangling and trying to snag; so it tends to be a 'win' anyway, despite the bells and whistles.

It's kind of odd not having a lid...but it still holds everything.


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Magnus, What is your pack? I can't find it on the interwebs.

This discussion has gotten me enticed with the idea of a new pack. I want the *perfect* pack.....if it exists.


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Lazlo wrote:
Magnus, What is your pack? I can't find it on the interwebs.

This discussion has gotten me enticed with the idea of a new pack. I want the *perfect* pack.....if it exists.
Ohhh man....
All this pack pron.
druuuuel.
must. get. out. packs. to. touch.
I has very old red REI crag pack (++ gumby points). Won large pocket, cinch open on top. knot mazy at awl. Hip belt less than steller, but works 4 short hike to crag an back. I has won REI summit pack (+ moar gumby points). Onu zip open main large pocket that opens upside down. Must open lieing on ground. But otherwize grate pack, very well riding. I tend to interchange there functions quite a bit.
Haz a few other smaller packs, sum Outdoors products, Cammel backs, werk grate for lighter hikes, for the wife, for the boyz.
Noa at sum point eye got a bigger pack 2 replace my old Lowe 4 weeklong pack, don't no where i stash it though. Must find it noa to druel over.


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I might be getting the Millet Expedition 65. I'm stoked!



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Lazlo wrote:
Magnus, What is your pack? I can't find it on the interwebs.

This discussion has gotten me enticed with the idea of a new pack. I want the *perfect* pack.....if it exists.
I only use Cilogear packs :)


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sungam wrote:
Lazlo wrote:
Magnus, What is your pack? I can't find it on the interwebs.

This discussion has gotten me enticed with the idea of a new pack. I want the *perfect* pack.....if it exists.
I only use Cilogear packs :)
These 3, the 30 and 60 are V1, the 45 is V3 or something.
http://www.cilogear.com/30lbawo.html
http://www.cilogear.com/45lws.html
http://www.cilogear.com/60lws.html


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Not everyone likes Cilogear, but I sure as fack do. And so do all of my climbing partners ^.^


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as mentioned before, my pack:



Don't know about winter capabilities, but I assume it's meant to be an alpine climbing pack.


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sungam wrote:
Not everyone likes Cilogear, but I sure as fack do. And so do all of my climbing partners ^.^

This sounds like a threat. Are you saying I can't climb with you unless I get a Cilogear pack?

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