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photoguy190
Oct 5, 2009, 2:09 AM
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I'm always weirded out by any one that is trying to get medical information off a forum, not to mention a rock climbing forum. There seems to me there is something here that is not being said. Was rock climbing the only thing that your friend did, is there other factors, did he live in a house with black mold. I lived in a house that just made me sick I moved out and was a lot better. After I moved out found out there was tons of black mold behind a shower, and in all the walls of the bathroom. You couldn't tell by looking at the bathroom. But once I moved out I felt much better. I have to agree that this is a bizarre thread that I feel something is not being said in. I wonder what the odds are that this would be climbing related I think we would all like to climb so much to make us sick but I don't even think people that climb every day for a job ect, can claim the rocks make them sick. Again do you really want climbers trying to play arm chair doctor?
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agentmm
Oct 5, 2009, 3:20 AM
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photoguy190 wrote: I'm always weirded out by any one that is trying to get medical information off a forum, not to mention a rock climbing forum.
Perfectly said.
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dan2see
Oct 5, 2009, 3:23 AM
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Everybody knows how safety is a priority in climbing.
But we play on rocks and trees and soil. And sun and wind. We expose ourselves to all the microscopic debris that Nature gives us.
Generally it's not a problem. We automatically keep clean and healthy, and that's all we need. Generally.
Occasionally somebody will pick up something and not know it until it infects him. In my post above, I told how I got infected with ring-worm and it took a year to get rid of. I know where and how I picked it up, even though none of my climbing buddies got it. It happens.
So MountainMiss has a friend who suffers from a chronic health problem, and she's trying to learn if rock-climbing could have caused it.
The easy answer to her is "nobody knows". A better answer is, "Your friend must let a doctor diagnose this, and prescribe treatment." If that doesn't work, feel free to try another doctor.
Chronic infections are very difficult to deal with. Not for you and me -- we're OK. But for the guy who's got the bug, it's really tough.
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landongw
Oct 5, 2009, 5:58 AM
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drainage that "feels toxic" and seems to temporarily metastisize (sp?) to other parts of the body
What exactly does that mean to you?
What makes you think this is a sytemic mold/fungus infection. sounds like it could be any kind of infection to me, it could be an allergy, it could be hormonal...just because it wasn't diagnosed as an allegy doesn't mean it isn't. it only means it's not common.
Does he smoke, does he smoke pot, crack? Does he have a wood stove in the house? Does anyone else in the house smoke. How much milk does he drink/cheese/yogurt/skin products with milk derivatives...milk stimulates mucous production.
All the muscle stiffness, headaches, neck pain etc, is normal during any prolonged cold or infection, and may not be related.
The amount of information here is not enough to help much. I'd suggest making a 7 year timeline of his life, note what changes took place 5 years ago and persisted, it might yield a clue. Take note of psychological factors as well. Did he lose his wife at that time, did that result in behavioral changes? Where has he lived, what were his jobs/when, etc.? Maybe he's been bitching and sniveling for the past five years and his body has developed an engram for bitching and sniveling...some form of neuroplasticity.
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mountainmiss
Oct 5, 2009, 5:45 PM
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My first post was brief because I didn't think a long detailed one would be read. I presumed that the title of the thread would attract those that had some experience with it.
My more detailed posts came after the comment that I sounded like an attorney. I subsequently explained all that I could so there would be no misunderstanding.
I tried my best. Things don't always get translated properly via email, do they.
I'm getting closer to the type of doctor we need. I appreciate the replies I have received and am glad I made the post.
Thank you everyone.
P.S. I had to laugh at the term "bizarre" post, cause this whole illness is bizarre, the problems and ailments are all real and evident, yet no one can diagnose or treat. How bizarre... and frustrating.
Again, thank you.
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agentmm
Oct 5, 2009, 7:49 PM
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mountainmiss wrote: P.S. I had to laugh at the term "bizarre" post, cause this whole illness is bizarre, the problems and ailments are all real and evident, yet no one can diagnose or treat. How bizarre... and frustrating.
Once again, missing the point entirely...
Nothing about your illness is bizarre...
The post, the follows ups and the whole context which this evolved in is BIZARRE...
Use it properly.
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ClimbClimb
Oct 6, 2009, 1:57 AM
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Oh, be nice to the poor OP. It's well worth checking if someone has heard of something simlar, even if there's a 0.1% chance of success...
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tigerlilly
Oct 6, 2009, 3:06 PM
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landongw wrote: How much milk does he drink/cheese/yogurt/skin products with milk derivatives...milk stimulates mucous production.
For years, I had a lot of chronic sinus drainage and repeated sinus infections (about once/3 months) until I gave up all dairy products and started using a saline nasal spray. Has he tried systematic elimination of potential food allergens?
I discovered the dairy reaction when I was traveling for work every other week for nearly a year. I realized my diet when traveling was different from what I ate at home. At home, I always had cereal with milk for breakfast and a glass of milk with dinner. I had neither when traveling. It took a while before I figured out why I could sleep like a baby in a hotel room, but coughed, sniffled, hacked and snored all night at home.
Kathy
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landongw
Oct 13, 2009, 5:27 AM
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I ran into something like this on Fbook today, a bunch of people suggested using a hyperbaric chamber to treat mold infections...I have no idea how this works. PM me and i'll get you in touch with the people that know...
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billcoe_
Oct 13, 2009, 4:23 PM
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mountainmiss wrote: Does anyone have ANY information about the possibility of contracting fungus/mold infections from repeated exposure to rock from setting several hundred routes?? If you don't know of anything but know someone who might, please let me know. thank you!
Route Setter? Did he work in a rock gym then? In not, then was he a prolific chalker? If so, I saw earlier that a young woman gym climber/worker had passed away from some rare form of lung cancer. I personally suspect that chalk dust, in excess, may be harmful to some of us. My family all come from a coal and hard rock mining background (west slope Colorado) and the dangers of breathing even what appears to be benign dust are well documented in that world.
I may have missed it, but had your friend had a full MRI yet to look for cancers and lesions? If not, I'd do that next.
What folks said above on the doctors goes for me as well. Please, PLEASE, check back in when you guys figure it out and share the info to help the next people searching for identical answers. Love the internet for that.
Good luck!!!
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