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sungam
Nov 8, 2009, 10:34 PM
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Okay, so I've heard of a few small companies that make the best of a product in their field. For example Cold Cold World rucksacks, Cilogear rucksacks, and Stephenson's Warmlite tents (although the sheer amount of nakedness in their catalogue is striking). I've only had experiance with Cilogear but have heard good things about the other. Does anyone know of any other such companies? Also, anyone that has a Stephenson's tent, I'm just curious if they're as awesome as I hear...
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sungam wrote: Okay, so I've heard of a few small companies that make the best of a product in their field. For example Cold Cold World rucksacks, Cilogear rucksacks, and Stephenson's Warmlite tents (although the sheer amount of nakedness in their catalogue is striking). I've only had experiance with Cilogear but have heard good things about the other. Does anyone know of any other such companies? Also, anyone that has a Stephenson's tent, I'm just curious if they're as awesome as I hear... That goodness for the Fish.
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sungam
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How did I forget fish? Also, Western Mountaineering.
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Stanley Alpine http://www.sopgear.com/ I've got the Manta tools modded for leashless. It climbs ice like fucking mad. And I can say I've got handbuilt titanium ice tools. Can you? Also their mountain axes are sweet. The ti shaft with ti head one is as light or lighter than the hokey weak ass lightweight stuff out there and it's as strong as anything out there. The one with the steel head will actually climb some serious ice and is pretty damn light too. The prices are on par or less than much of the bullshit mass produced stuff out there too.
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Big Agnes.
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The North Face.
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Dana Designs old Bomb Pack was a great pack all around mountain pack. Still haven't seen a pack as good as that one.
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munky wrote: Dana Designs old Bomb Pack was a great pack all around mountain pack. Still haven't seen a pack as good as that one. Dana dseign is now mystery ranch packs http://www.mysteryranch.com/site/index.html and there still awesome. I just bought a 5000 ci pack for my wife and it puts my north face badlands to shame. And they are located in my home town...
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You mentioned Cold Cold World in your original post. I just got a Chernobyl pack and I cannot say enough good things about the product and the great experience that I had with Randy (the owner). I also recently purchased a 30L Work sack from CiloGear, and was similarly impressed with their product. If you are thinking about a pack, make sure that you take a hard look at CCW and CiloGear. They both make great (although VERY different) stuff.
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I too have a Dana Designs Bomb Pack! It is indeed awesome.
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Organic, duh. Also Mystery Ranch makes some slammin' packs. It's run by the Dana from Dana Designs
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: sungam wrote: Okay, so I've heard of a few small companies that make the best of a product in their field. For example Cold Cold World rucksacks, Cilogear rucksacks, and Stephenson's Warmlite tents ( although the sheer amount of nakedness in their catalogue is striking). I've only had experiance with Cilogear but have heard good things about the other. Does anyone know of any other such companies? Also, anyone that has a Stephenson's tent, I'm just curious if they're as awesome as I hear... You throw that out there and don't provide a link. Sheesh. http://www.warmlite.com/bags_In.htm LOL! Actually, if you download the .pdf catalog there's even more nekidness. It's circa '70s nekidness, but nekidness all the same. Ladies, as any guy will tell you, "once you've seen one set of boobies...you want to see them all." http://www.warmlite.com/cat-web.pdf
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There's a great Aussie company that make some super-high quality gear, though it's mainly aimed at bushwalking (or backpacking as you Americans seem to call it). One Planet make canvas rucksacks, and down-filled sleeping bags (custom made if you so desire). http://www.oneplanet.com.au
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http://mosesclimbing.com/ Rivet hangars, cam hooks, tomohawks, and logan hooks. For your aid climbing needs.
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sungam
Nov 11, 2009, 12:58 PM
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We're gradually getting less small, Montane is a fair sized company - though they do rock. That reminds me - Buffalo.
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sungam wrote: We're gradually getting less small, Montane is a fair sized company - though they do rock. That reminds me - Buffalo. True, Montane (and Rab for that matter) are fair sized companies, certainly not what I would qualify as "cottage" manufacturers. That being said, relative to the quality of Montane's gear, very few folks over on this side of the pond have even heard of them, much less own some of their stuff. As a happy Montane customer (Super Fly XT), I take every opportunity to let people around here know about their gear...
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james481 wrote: sungam wrote: We're gradually getting less small, Montane is a fair sized company - though they do rock. That reminds me - Buffalo. True, Montane (and Rab for that matter) are fair sized companies, certainly not what I would qualify as "cottage" manufacturers. That being said, relative to the quality of Montane's gear, very few folks over on this side of the pond have even heard of them, much less own some of their stuff. As a happy Montane customer (Super Fly XT), I take every opportunity to let people around here know about their gear... The best products they make are the Terra line and their wind jackets. Just amazing.
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Nov 17, 2009, 3:08 PM
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+1 for Mystery Ranch, love my g7000, thinking about one of the y-zip packs for backcountry stuffs. Aslo Cooke Custom Sewing makes some pretty sweet stuff. http://www.cookecustomsewing.com/
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Recently picked up a beastmaker 2000 series to help get me through another wet winter and it is by far the best hangboard I have ever used and deserves a mention on this thread. http://www.beastmaker.co.uk/ A good progression of doable to damn hard slopers, medium to tiny edges and a few oddball sloping 2 finger and mono pockets make it clear those brits know a thing or two about staying entertained when the rock is dripping wet.
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sungam
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ryanb wrote: Recently picked up a beastmaker 2000 series to help get me through another wet winter and it is by far the best hangboard I have ever used and deserves a mention on this thread. http://www.beastmaker.co.uk/ A good progression of doable to damn hard slopers, medium to tiny edges and a few oddball sloping 2 finger and mono pockets make it clear those brits know a thing or two about staying entertained when the rock is dripping wet. Can you stick those slopers? We have a 2000 series as well. It's kick ass, but I wish it had yet a smaller crimp on it, but I just add weight.
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ryanb
Nov 25, 2009, 8:58 PM
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sungam wrote: ryanb wrote: Recently picked up a beastmaker 2000 series to help get me through another wet winter and it is by far the best hangboard I have ever used and deserves a mention on this thread. http://www.beastmaker.co.uk/ A good progression of doable to damn hard slopers, medium to tiny edges and a few oddball sloping 2 finger and mono pockets make it clear those brits know a thing or two about staying entertained when the rock is dripping wet. Can you stick those slopers? We have a 2000 series as well. It's kick ass, but I wish it had yet a smaller crimp on it, but I just add weight. I can stick the easier two angles okay (I nest my index finger for the 30) but I've been slipping off the 45. The exciting thing about the beastmaker is that I can nest/not nest, get my thumb involved or not and sand the slopers with various grit sandpaper to make them easier or harder...its the first system i've seen that seems to let you easily progress to harder and harder slopers/open handed positions. That small edge feels pretty small to me after spending last winter hanging a 3/4" campus rung but that rad that you've got them dialed in...have you tried working 3 and 2 finger grips on it or sanding it with fine grit paper to make it slicker?
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sungam
Nov 25, 2009, 9:20 PM
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ryanb wrote: sungam wrote: ryanb wrote: Recently picked up a beastmaker 2000 series to help get me through another wet winter and it is by far the best hangboard I have ever used and deserves a mention on this thread. http://www.beastmaker.co.uk/ A good progression of doable to damn hard slopers, medium to tiny edges and a few oddball sloping 2 finger and mono pockets make it clear those brits know a thing or two about staying entertained when the rock is dripping wet. Can you stick those slopers? We have a 2000 series as well. It's kick ass, but I wish it had yet a smaller crimp on it, but I just add weight. I can stick the easier two angles okay (I nest my index finger for the 30) but I've been slipping off the 45. The exciting thing about the beastmaker is that I can nest/not nest, get my thumb involved or not and sand the slopers with various grit sandpaper to make them easier or harder...its the first system i've seen that seems to let you easily progress to harder and harder slopers/open handed positions. That small edge feels pretty small to me after spending last winter hanging a 3/4" campus rung but that rad that you've got them dialed in...have you tried working 3 and 2 finger grips on it or sanding it with fine grit paper to make it slicker? The smallest edge is just right for me to use as the 10s hang for complex training, but I have to add a ton of weight to use it for the 4s hang. That's my only problem with it. My record on the 45 sloper non-nesting is about 1.5s, but that's from swinging foreward slightly. They are the toughest slopers on any board I've seen. I also love the versitility of the pockets (a big weakness for me).
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ryanb wrote: I can stick the easier two angles okay (I nest my index finger for the 30) but I've been slipping off the 45. "nest" now gets added to the most disliked terms used by climbers. Cheers, Rob.calm
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robdotcalm wrote: ryanb wrote: I can stick the easier two angles okay (I nest my index finger for the 30) but I've been slipping off the 45. "nest" now gets added to the most disliked terms used by climbers. Cheers, Rob.calm Here are a few more you might enjoy: http://www.beastmaker.co.uk/grips.JPG
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sungam wrote: ryanb wrote: sungam wrote: ryanb wrote: Recently picked up a beastmaker 2000 series to help get me through another wet winter and it is by far the best hangboard I have ever used and deserves a mention on this thread. http://www.beastmaker.co.uk/ A good progression of doable to damn hard slopers, medium to tiny edges and a few oddball sloping 2 finger and mono pockets make it clear those brits know a thing or two about staying entertained when the rock is dripping wet. Can you stick those slopers? We have a 2000 series as well. It's kick ass, but I wish it had yet a smaller crimp on it, but I just add weight. I can stick the easier two angles okay (I nest my index finger for the 30) but I've been slipping off the 45. The exciting thing about the beastmaker is that I can nest/not nest, get my thumb involved or not and sand the slopers with various grit sandpaper to make them easier or harder...its the first system i've seen that seems to let you easily progress to harder and harder slopers/open handed positions. That small edge feels pretty small to me after spending last winter hanging a 3/4" campus rung but that rad that you've got them dialed in...have you tried working 3 and 2 finger grips on it or sanding it with fine grit paper to make it slicker? The smallest edge is just right for me to use as the 10s hang for complex training, but I have to add a ton of weight to use it for the 4s hang. That's my only problem with it. My record on the 45 sloper non-nesting is about 1.5s, but that's from swinging foreward slightly. They are the toughest slopers on any board I've seen. I also love the versitility of the pockets (a big weakness for me). Nice, I can't even start to stick the 45's yet unless i turn it into a pinch or something...slopers are a hugh weakness for me which is the main reason i am stoked on the beastmaker.
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robdotcalm wrote: sungam wrote: My record on the 45 sloper non-nesting is about 1.5s, but that's from swinging foreward slightly. First mountaineering, then crag climbing, then bouldering, then climbing indoors. Now we have competitive hangboarding. Sungam's post marks the official end of rock climbing. Gratias et valete bene! RobertusPunctumPacificus Rob, you missed the point of the post. It wasn't a serious or a competitive one. It was merely me saying "f*ck that's a hard hold". I was also taking a bit of a plug at the beastmaker site which has "problems" that you're meant to project - eg hanging the sloping monos for 10 seconds is an 8a+ or something like that.
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ryanb
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robdotcalm wrote: sungam wrote: My record on the 45 sloper non-nesting is about 1.5s, but that's from swinging foreward slightly. First mountaineering, then crag climbing, then bouldering, then climbing indoors. Now we have competitive hangboarding. Sungam's post marks the official end of rock climbing. Gratias et valete bene! RobertusPunctumPacificus Don't climb many 80's style thin face/slab/sparse gear route do you? "He who hang's on route in summer must hang on board in winter" - Saying amongst seattle area climbers. "Be good, and if you can't be good, be strong" - Richie Patterson
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I think someone mentioned Onsight Climbing out of Squamish or maybe it was in another post. Does anyone have a link to their page, it didn't seem to work when I tried. |
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Nov 26, 2009, 8:09 AM
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ingrahamd wrote: I think someone mentioned Onsight Climbing out of Squamish or maybe it was in another post. Does anyone have a link to their page, it didn't seem to work when I tried. Onsight stopped making climbing products a few years ago. They make packs and 'travel solutions' now, though I haven't tried any of them. http://www.onsightequipment.com/
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Yes and no! They do have some excellent ideas, and really completely thought through a lot of their stuff, however there are a few problems: 1. A lot of stuff is very specific for scandinavian conditions. Not really a problem, but in order to assess if you have use for something, you gotta know a lot about that stuff. 2. They have a lot of quality issues, which especially sucks when you look at their prices! Almost all people that have some Klättermusen stuff that i know have some problems with one piece or another. However if you have something that has no issues, and perfectly fits you needs, then yes, Klättermusen is "da bomb". qwert
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Bummer, I bought my rack used and had a bunch of their gear I really liked.
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In reply to: LOL! Actually, if you download the .pdf catalog there's even more nekidness. It's circa '70s nekidness, but nekidness all the same. Ladies, as any guy will tell you, "once you've seen one set of boobies...you want to see them all." http://www.warmlite.com/cat-web.pdf Not really though. Those racks aren't so bad, but there are some boobies that might give you a distaste for boobies in general.
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There's a little company called CCH that makes the best camming devices.
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sethg wrote: There's a little company called CCH that makes the best camming devices. Amen. I'm shocked it took two pages for someone to mention Aliens.
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jeepnphreak wrote: ...Dana dseign is now mystery ranch packs ... Dana Designs was purchased by K2 Skis, which is hardly a small company, in 1996. K2 purchased Marmot, another hardly-small company, and merged it with the Dana Designs brand in 2006. http://danadesign.com/ Sorry, dude. But Dana Designs ain't the small company you think it is.
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sungam wrote: james481 wrote: sungam wrote: We're gradually getting less small, Montane is a fair sized company - though they do rock. That reminds me - Buffalo. True, Montane (and Rab for that matter) are fair sized companies, certainly not what I would qualify as "cottage" manufacturers. That being said, relative to the quality of Montane's gear, very few folks over on this side of the pond have even heard of them, much less own some of their stuff. As a happy Montane customer (Super Fly XT), I take every opportunity to let people around here know about their gear... The best products they make are the Terra line and their wind jackets. Just amazing. Anywhere to get the Terra pants in the US? I wants them.
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Cactus climbing equipment from little old New Zealand. They make totally bomb proof gear which is really well designed.
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shimanilami wrote: jeepnphreak wrote: ...Dana dseign is now mystery ranch packs ... Dana Designs was purchased by K2 Skis, which is hardly a small company, in 1996. K2 purchased Marmot, another hardly-small company, and merged it with the Dana Designs brand in 2006. http://danadesign.com/ Sorry, dude. But Dana Designs ain't the small company you think it is. Well you need to do a bit more research...or maby I should have claified a bit more YES dana design is and still is a big company. But mystery ranch is still a small company and there packs kick ass Dana Gleason the origonal/founder of dana design sold the name off in about 95'. Now what use to be the old dana design company (located 10 miles out side my home town) is now know as mystery ranch packs, and Still owned by Dana Gleason, And there pack still kick ass http://www.mysteryranch.com/....12/category.1975/.f
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I think we're both right. I was bummed when they started manufacturing in Mexico, and even more bummed when the Marmot label starting showing up on their packs. It seemed like they were going down the direction of TNF (and we all know how that has ended up.) I have two original DD packs and will certainly look at Mystery Ranch if either one wears out. That guy makes some top notch equipment.
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jeepnphreak wrote: YES dana design is and still is a big company. But mystery ranch is still a small company and there packs kick ass Dana Gleason the origonal/founder of dana design sold the name off in about 95'. Now what use to be the old dana design company (located 10 miles out side my home town) is now know as mystery ranch packs, and Still owned by Dana Gleason, And there pack still kick ass http://www.mysteryranch.com/....12/category.1975/.f Ho man. Mystery led me through elk hunting all the way to this: http://www.maidennoir.com/collection/ Apparently Twink Peaks couture is back.
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