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cush
Nov 12, 2009, 3:42 AM
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my rack right now consists of : full set BD stoppers tricams .5-1.5 BD c4 .3-3 metolius TCU 0 & 1 WC tech friend 00 11 trad draws i'm thinking about starting to double up on the medium range C4s probably .4-1
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johnwesely
Nov 12, 2009, 4:01 AM
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What piece do you always find yourself wishing you had. Get that piece.
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charlie.elverson
Nov 12, 2009, 4:46 AM
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What he said. Also, what's your locker and cordelette situation? Double length slings can be pretty handy. With that said, I love my tri cams. I have the smallest size through a 3.5 and use them plenty.
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scottydo
Nov 12, 2009, 12:22 PM
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if you can double up in the range from .4-1 (through 3 if possible) I'd say do it. love those C4s! if you can only get one or two pieces...i'm a big fan of my OP Link Cams
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seatbeltpants
Nov 12, 2009, 7:22 PM
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johnwesely wrote: What piece do you always find yourself wishing you had. Get that piece. i'd get a #4 c4 because i haven't got one, neither has my partner, and we always seem to need one. so that's what i reckon you should get regardless of whether you've ever wanted one or not. steve
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johnwesely
Nov 12, 2009, 8:24 PM
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seatbeltpants wrote: johnwesely wrote: What piece do you always find yourself wishing you had. Get that piece. i'd get a #4 c4 because i haven't got one, neither has my partner, and we always seem to need one. so that's what i reckon you should get regardless of whether you've ever wanted one or not. steve I have never felt like I needed a #4. It really depends on the type of routes you climb.
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dugl33
Nov 12, 2009, 8:30 PM
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For me there is no question. Another #1 and #2 C4. Of course, I'm sure this depends on where you climb... Not sure I agree with the link cam idea. They are expensive, heavy, and despite that nice range, you can only get one placement out of each one...
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cracklover
Nov 12, 2009, 8:33 PM
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If I were you I'd buy more draws and another half set of stoppers. GO
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xtrmecat
Nov 12, 2009, 8:58 PM
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I would get another set of passive pro, and maybe a locker or 6. As suggested, what did you find yourself wanting/needing? Get it. Bob
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csproul
Nov 12, 2009, 9:07 PM
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cush wrote: my rack right now consists of : full set BD stoppers tricams .5-1.5 BD c4 .3-3 metolius TCU 0 & 1 WC tech friend 00 11 trad draws i'm thinking about starting to double up on the medium range C4s probably .4-1 I don't like the C4 in the smaller sizes. If I were you, I'd get another half-full set of stoppers, including some micros, and preferably another brand than you already have. Then I would like TCU's, mastercams, or aliens (tested, of course) up to the red-sized. But that's just me.
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dugl33
Nov 12, 2009, 10:45 PM
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acorneau wrote: dugl33 wrote: Not sure I agree with the link cam idea. They are expensive, heavy, and despite that nice range, you can only get one placement out of each one... Funny... as a Metolius cam user I have the same feeling about Camalots. Touche', acorn. Touche'. (And, admittedly, the get another brand theory has some truth. I have a wired bliss piece that is perfectly between a .5 camalot, and a .75 camalot, for example. (.5 is tipped out, .75 too tight, wired bliss, just right.)
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mountainsheep
Dec 13, 2009, 6:30 PM
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If you have to ask then you don't need anything so just to humor you I'd say slings and fold them over to give you extendable quick draws perfect for winter climbing, winding routes and overhangs.
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TheRucat
Dec 13, 2009, 6:47 PM
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mountainsheep wrote: If you have to ask then you don't need anything That does not make any sense..
mountainsheep wrote: I'd say slings and fold them over to give you extendable quick draws perfect for winter climbing, winding routes and overhangs. AKA a trad draw? In which the op stated he has 11 of them?
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chadnsc
Dec 13, 2009, 7:05 PM
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TheRucat wrote: mountainsheep wrote: If you have to ask then you don't need anything That does not make any sense.. mountainsheep wrote: I'd say slings and fold them over to give you extendable quick draws perfect for winter climbing, winding routes and overhangs. AKA a trad draw? In which the op stated he has 11 of them? Well I've found it's rather hard to have too many shoulder length slings. Having 11 trad draws is a good number to have for protecting your climb (dependent on where you climb of course). I've found it's nice to have a few extra drawing to help build your anchor. For me personally I like to carry two 48" slings in addition to a dozen trad draws. I find the 48" slings are great for slinging chock-stones and trees at anchors. The extra trad draws always seem to come in handy when extending a point of my anchor to equalize each leg of my cordilet. Of course this is just my option based on the areas that I tend to climb (SD, WY, MN, MT, NV) so take the advice with a grain of salt.
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mountainsheep
Dec 13, 2009, 7:15 PM
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TheRucat wrote: mountainsheep wrote: If you have to ask then you don't need anything That does not make any sense.. mountainsheep wrote: I'd say slings and fold them over to give you extendable quick draws perfect for winter climbing, winding routes and overhangs. AKA a trad draw? In which the op stated he has 11 of them? If you notice half way up a route that you need more slings then you go and get them, but if there is something that you haven't actually thought you need then you probably don't need it which is why i said if you have to ask then you don't need anything. I didn't realise what a trad draw was so thanks for that, so now you've got plenty of them double up on some stoppers.
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TheRucat
Dec 13, 2009, 7:57 PM
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mountainsheep wrote: TheRucat wrote: mountainsheep wrote: If you have to ask then you don't need anything That does not make any sense.. mountainsheep wrote: I'd say slings and fold them over to give you extendable quick draws perfect for winter climbing, winding routes and overhangs. AKA a trad draw? In which the op stated he has 11 of them? If you notice half way up a route that you need more slings then you go and get them, but if there is something that you haven't actually thought you need then you probably don't need it which is why i said if you have to ask then you don't need anything. I didn't realise what a trad draw was so thanks for that, so now you've got plenty of them double up on some stoppers. I understood what you meant. But in my experiences, just because you haven't needed something in the past doesn't mean you won't come across a situation where it would be useful in the future.
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scottek67
Dec 13, 2009, 8:19 PM
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you should get another set of nuts. maybe a set of these...
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gerbil
Feb 16, 2010, 4:58 PM
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get some cams to compliment your C4's. WC, Trango, Metolius. also, Lowe-Balls are awesome
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lumineferusother
Feb 16, 2010, 5:49 PM
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acorneau wrote: dugl33 wrote: Not sure I agree with the link cam idea. They are expensive, heavy, and despite that nice range, you can only get one placement out of each one... Funny... as a Metolius cam user I have the same feeling about Camalots. Acorneau, it's posts like yours that make me wish RC.com had a "like" button
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acorneau
Feb 16, 2010, 5:52 PM
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lumineferusother wrote: acorneau wrote: dugl33 wrote: Not sure I agree with the link cam idea. They are expensive, heavy, and despite that nice range, you can only get one placement out of each one... Funny... as a Metolius cam user I have the same feeling about Camalots. Acorneau, it's posts like yours that make me wish RC.com had a "like" button You can always give it a 5-star vote at the top of the post. (Thanks, though!)
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panacea82
Feb 16, 2010, 5:58 PM
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Looks to me like you need some mastercams or Aliens. I like yellow-orange mastercams myself and C3's for the smaller stuff. I also stand my my offset Aliens but i climb in Yosemite a lot. If you dont feel you need smaller sizes then i would say without a doubt get a #1 and #2 C4. Dont get link cams i see ALOT of fixed ones.
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lumineferusother
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acorneau wrote: lumineferusother wrote: acorneau wrote: dugl33 wrote: Not sure I agree with the link cam idea. They are expensive, heavy, and despite that nice range, you can only get one placement out of each one... Funny... as a Metolius cam user I have the same feeling about Camalots. Done...what can I say? It made my day Acorneau, it's posts like yours that make me wish RC.com had a "like" button You can always give it a 5-star vote at the top of the post. (Thanks, though!)
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kennoyce
Feb 16, 2010, 10:48 PM
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I would also suggest to double up on the #1 and #2 c4's or get a different brand in similar sizes for those placements that are kind of between camalot sizes.
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Feb 17, 2010, 9:50 PM
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you'll probably find another #1 and #2 camalot handy, and some double-length slings. just don't get carried away thinking you actually *need* a ton of gear to do a lot of climbing. depending on where you climb, you can probably do most routes with your rack. so don't sweat it.
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blueeyedclimber
Feb 20, 2010, 3:48 PM
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I don't really like these threads and hardly ever respond to them but will say this. Your rack is good enough for a lot of places but it all depends on where you climb. If you are climbing the Gunks, then your rack is fine. If you are climbing Red Rocks, you'll want more draws. if climb Indian Creek, you'll want more cams (a lot more cams). If you climb Yosemite, you'll probably want some bigger cams. And so on, and so on. Just start climbing with your rack and when you get on a climb and say, "I wish I had another #2", or "ooops, I ran out of draws," you'll know what to get next time you go shopping. Josh
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jeepnphreak
Feb 22, 2010, 12:50 AM
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johnwesely wrote: What piece do you always find yourself wishing you had. Get that piece. With out knowing what your routs are like.... This is ths best advice so far. what pieces are you placeing and wishing that you also had for later on the route? Doubel up on those.
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