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maldaly
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So it appears that Sarah Palin is headed into Denai National Park to climb "Sweettooth" with Todd and Willow. Problem is that Sweet Tooth Spire is a prominent gendarme on the South Ridge Sugar Tooth and is rated 5.10+ A2. Best of luck to you, Sarah.
Here's a link to her announcement on Twitter: http://www.themudflats.net/...ettooth-coffee-spit/
Here's a photo of the South Ridge of Sugar Tooth (Eye Tooth behind and above) with Sweet Tooth Spire the small gendarme below the summit.
Sarah, We all expect a full trip report upon your return. Best of luck to you.
Climb safe,
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johnwesely
Jul 19, 2010, 11:31 PM
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I am worried that she is going to bring out the drill and bring the climb down to her level.
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wonderwoman
Jul 20, 2010, 12:32 AM
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I was thinkin' along the lines that she might be scoutin' for a new mountain top removal mineral minin' site.
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zeke_sf
Jul 20, 2010, 12:41 AM
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johnwesely wrote: I am worried that she is going to bring out the drill and bring the climb down to her level.
Not bad at awl.
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zeke_sf wrote: johnwesely wrote: I am worried that she is going to bring out the drill and bring the climb down to her level. Not bad at awl.
You really hammered that one home.
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cycle1667
Jul 20, 2010, 12:47 AM
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Drill baby, drill... wonder how many goons she'll have to drag up the face with her.
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Jul 20, 2010, 1:38 AM
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Maybe they will just Helicopter her to the top.
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bennydh
Jul 20, 2010, 2:04 AM
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Portaledges in Alaska are like duck blinds for Polar bears.
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el_layclimber
Jul 20, 2010, 3:04 AM
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peg_leg1 wrote: Maybe they will just Helicopter her to the top.
No, snowmobiles. It's going to be epic.
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camhead
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johnwesely wrote: zeke_sf wrote: johnwesely wrote: I am worried that she is going to bring out the drill and bring the climb down to her level. Not bad at awl. You really hammered that one home.
Nailin' Palin?
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johnwesely
Jul 20, 2010, 3:38 AM
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camhead wrote: johnwesely wrote: zeke_sf wrote: johnwesely wrote: I am worried that she is going to bring out the drill and bring the climb down to her level. Not bad at awl. You really hammered that one home. Nailin' Palin?
After that, I really think we can pin this thread shut.
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camhead wrote: johnwesely wrote: zeke_sf wrote: johnwesely wrote: I am worried that she is going to bring out the drill and bring the climb down to her level. Not bad at awl. You really hammered that one home. Nailin' Palin?
Will this be an FMA? (First MILF Ascent?)
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rangerrob
Jul 20, 2010, 2:15 PM
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I can't seem to open that link. Please tell me this thread is a joke. If not, I need to find myself another hobby.
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maldaly
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rnagerrob. Just made that link clickable. You can always copy the link and past into your browser as well.
Mal
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carabiner96
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I'm still waiting for the tweet:
"Oh, goshdarn! I meant..."
Please, fill in the blank.
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Jul 20, 2010, 6:23 PM
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I figure she's capable of getting a guide to fix lines and jugging her way up... but given her considerable history of ducking out on jobs, I figure she will quit after a pitch or two.
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...or maybe they'll just rig a haul for her?
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milesenoell
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There's this awful little part of me that imagines that maybe she can actually climb. Finding out that George W Bush likes to run and mountain bike, and is purported to be pretty good at both, still pains me. How dare they sully my favored activities!
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rangerrob
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I still haven't discerned if this is a farce or not, despite reading about 10 websites that cite the story. Have they alreay done the climb they intended on doing? if they haven't, when is this supposed to happen? Are any of the Palins experienced alpinists, or are they paying a guide to take them up it. Seems rather misleading to tell the media that they climbed it and not mention that they used a guide, if indeed they did. Let's be honest, hiring a guide to haul your ass up something is a different thing entirely from doing it yourself.
Again, I doubt this ever took place, or will ever take place. where are the pictures of the trip???
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milesenoell
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rangerrob wrote: I still haven't discerned if this is a farce or not, despite reading about 10 websites that cite the story. Have they alreay done the climb they intended on doing? if they haven't, when is this supposed to happen? Are any of the Palins experienced alpinists, or are they paying a guide to take them up it. Seems rather misleading to tell the media that they climbed it and not mention that they used a guide, if indeed they did. Let's be honest, hiring a guide to haul your ass up something is a different thing entirely from doing it yourself. Again, I doubt this ever took place, or will ever take place. where are the pictures of the trip???
I would be astonished if they didn't have at least one guide. She's way too important to take any real risks.
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Jul 21, 2010, 3:50 AM
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free climbing or aid climbing?
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Jul 21, 2010, 5:45 AM
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curt wrote: camhead wrote: johnwesely wrote: zeke_sf wrote: johnwesely wrote: I am worried that she is going to bring out the drill and bring the climb down to her level. Not bad at awl. You really hammered that one home. Nailin' Palin? Will this be an FMA? (First MILF Ascent?) Curt
to me she's really more of a MILFU
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Some what better than being tied to someone else and jumping out of an airplane.
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On a similar subject, a river guide friend of mine took Laura Bush down the Grand Canyon several years ago. Said she was really nice, and pretty adventurous as well. She kept scrambling up rocks into canyons after the Secret Service told her not to; the guys couldn't keep up with her.
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What's the difference if the story tells us they were free or aid climbing? Both methods are equally unbelievable. I have never heard of any of them being climbers before. One just doesn't start climbing in the Ruth Gorge, and one doesn't start ones climbing career on alpine 5.10 A2 terrain.
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ConverseClimber
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Well yea im just saying either way she should start on something easier. i cant imagine her sport climbing even something easy hahaha
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Jul 21, 2010, 5:36 PM
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rangerrob wrote: What's the difference if the story tells us they were free or aid climbing? Both methods are equally unbelievable. I have never heard of any of them being climbers before. One just doesn't start climbing in the Ruth Gorge, and one doesn't start ones climbing career on alpine 5.10 A2 terrain.
True. But didn't her campaign for vice presidency start with similar qualifications and experience?
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Converse, sport climbing is a far cry from doing al alpine route on the Sugar Tooth in the Ruth. Why wouldn;t her or any of her family be able to sport climb? They all look to be in reasonable shape to me. I've seen people way worse looking than the Palins clipping bolts.
As for her qualifications....granted, she was a little under qualified to run as vice president. However, she was the governor of a state and was a politician. So that's like someone who clips bolts at Rumney a few times a year thinking they can climb the Cassin. yes they are both climbing, but not even the same thing.
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http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2010/07/sweet-tooth-or-sugar-tooth.html
Apparently, there is some truth to the story. She was up in Talkeetna to film a new TV show and it sounds like Colby Coombs from AMS is involved so I'm sure they could get her up something in the area. What that is could be debatable.
What is interesting to me is that when I went up Denali this May we had some 'sightseers' stop by our basecamp to see how we set it up. They said they were part of a film crew that was shooting something there later in the summer and was doing some recon for it. But they wouldn't tell us anything about the show they were going to shoot.
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climbingaz
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Give Palin some time and she'll "refudiate" her story. She likes to "refudiate" when ever given the chance. 
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I just hope she applies the same level of thought, judgment, and intelligence to her climbing endeavors that she has to the rest of her public and private life.
Ok, sorry ... is that cruel?
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rangerrob wrote: What's the difference if the story tells us they were free or aid climbing? Both methods are equally unbelievable. I have never heard of any of them being climbers before. One just doesn't start climbing in the Ruth Gorge, and one doesn't start ones climbing career on alpine 5.10 A2 terrain.
Yeah, that would be like trying to rise to one of the highest seats of government from a backwater state.
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The words "objective hazard" have never sounded so sweet.
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I really think she can freedom free the hard sections.
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milesenoell
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camhead wrote: On a similar subject, a river guide friend of mine took Laura Bush down the Grand Canyon several years ago. Said she was really nice, and pretty adventurous as well. She kept scrambling up rocks into canyons after the Secret Service told her not to; the guys couldn't keep up with her.
Several years ago I caught a thing where they had the living first ladies chatting about politics and other random crap, and while I don't like their politics I was really impressed by both Barbara and Laura Bush. They seemed like the kind of people I'd like hanging out with. Weird.
edited to add: Lest anyone think I'm suggesting that I'd like to hang out with Palin, I'm convinced I would be impelled to slap the shit out of her if we had to spend any length of time together.
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reminds me of the time they took "the dutchess of york" for a spin in the garden of the gods.....
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milesenoell wrote: I would be astonished if they didn't have at least one guide. She's way too important to take any real risks.
Eh? I don't think so. Ok I know what you mean. Perhaps we can reccomend a guide heh heh!
rangerrob wrote: ... or are they paying a guide to take them up it. Seems rather misleading to tell the media that they climbed it and not mention that they used a guide, if indeed they did. Let's be honest, hiring a guide to haul your ass up something is a different thing entirely from doing it yourself. Again, I doubt this ever took place, or will ever take place. where are the pictures of the trip???
I agree in our veiw it ani't goin to happen - but the public will never know that - and would count it even with a guide. Heck, I'd give her credit for doing it wiith a guide - at least more credit for that than anything else I know of!
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paulraphael wrote: I just hope she applies the same level of thought, judgment, and intelligence to her climbing endeavors that she has to the rest of her public and private life. Ok, sorry ... is that cruel?
No.
What is cruel is my morbid and self-deprecating fascination with her antics. It's a cruelty of the masochistic variety, more so than my fascination with wide cracks or.... slab climbs.
It's cruel to the extent that I need to offer a metaphor. When I watch a squadron of retards humping the greased football, I know it's wrong. Part of me watches because the incredible wrongness of that humor is hilarious, and another part of me watches because it is SO WRONG that I despise myself. Another part of me watches just to people watch the idiots (audience) watching the disabled morons feeble attempts to make babies with a football. The irony of this last observation is not lost on me.
I just wish I could stop paying attention to this particular alaskan retard. What will she do next? Maybe she'll wink her way to the highest office in the nation, despite my protests. Maybe I'll enjoy the show, just as she manages to kick-start world war 3, or "the rapture" as evangelicals might call it.
Panda out.
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I met Palin a few years ago when she was still governor. I was fishing the king run on the Talkeetna and ran into her with her family. We chatted for 10 minutes or so. Say what you want, but they were a very down to earth, cool bunch of people. It's easy to cast stones when you've never met someone, and every aspect of their life is poured over by the media. She chokes under pressure and says some strange things, but my firsthand impression was that she's a tough, smart lady who loves her family. I personally cringe every time I hear BO speak, but I understand his appealing empty rhetoric is what people want to hear to soothe themselves. I wouldn't totally judge the man until I met him myself. I'm sure even he has some redeeming qualities.
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dynosore wrote: I met Palin a few years ago when she was still governor. I was fishing the king run on the Talkeetna and ran into her with her family. We chatted for 10 minutes or so. Say what you want, but they were a very down to earth, cool bunch of people.
This doesn't contradict anything, really. There are plenty of good, down-to-earth, reasonably smart people who would come off as jackasses in a policy debate, a political speech, an interview on major issues with a serious journalist.
I think of myself and my friends as being pretty well informed, and smarter than the average bears. But we would look like raving incompetents if put under the scrutiny of high level political candidates.
Luckily, we are all SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THIS. We know that in a representative democracy, YOU DON'T WANT YOUR MOM OR YOUR DRINKING BUDDIES IN OFFICE. You want people who are fundamentally and explicitly better qualified. People from the Palin camp like to call this attitude "elitism." Well, guess what: representative democracy is rooted in the concept of a group of elected elites representing us riffraff. If you elect the riffraff into office, you defeat the whole system.
Sarah Palin, like most of us, is fundamentally, profoundly, stupefyingly unqualified for executive office. The frightening thing is that she and her supporters are too stupid to realize this.
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What does any of this political rhetoric have to do with her supposedly climbing a route in the Ruth?? No one has yet to either verify the rumor, or subtantiate it.
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dynosore wrote: I met Palin a few years ago when she was still governor. I was fishing the king run on the Talkeetna and ran into her with her family. We chatted for 10 minutes or so. Say what you want, but they were a very down to earth, cool bunch of people. It's easy to cast stones when you've never met someone, and every aspect of their life is poured over by the media. She chokes under pressure and says some strange things, but my firsthand impression was that she's a tough, smart lady who loves her family. I personally cringe every time I hear BO speak, but I understand his appealing empty rhetoric is what people want to hear to soothe themselves. I wouldn't totally judge the man until I met him myself. I'm sure even he has some redeeming qualities.
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We couldn't do much worse. Both parties seem determined to bankrupt us. Our President talks a good story but anyone with perception sees he's an empty suit. He has no clue how to get our economy back on track. No politician with the guts to take the painful steps needed to get us out of this hole will ever be elected. People want a quick fix. I guess we're getting exactly what we deserve. Few people are responsible with their personal finances, why would we expect our gov to be? I digress.
I hope she does it, or at least gives it a good try. I dream of going to the Ruth Gorge. I've climbed in Alaska a couple times and it ain't no joke.
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dynosore wrote: We couldn't do much worse. Both parties seem determined to bankrupt us. Our President talks a good story but anyone with perception sees he's an empty suit. He has no clue how to get our economy back on track.
The last empty (flight) suit had eight years to get us into this, so I guess Obama has his work cut out.
McCain will probably body belay her using a swami.
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dynosore wrote: I met Palin a few years ago when she was still governor. I was fishing the king run on the Talkeetna and ran into her with her family. We chatted for 10 minutes or so. Say what you want, but they were a very down to earth, cool bunch of people. It's easy to cast stones when you've never met someone, and every aspect of their life is poured over by the media. She chokes under pressure and says some strange things, but my firsthand impression was that she's a tough, smart lady who loves her family. I personally cringe every time I hear BO speak, but I understand his appealing empty rhetoric is what people want to hear to soothe themselves. I wouldn't totally judge the man until I met him myself. I'm sure even he has some redeeming qualities.
Sooo... you're not allowed to have opinions on public figures until you've chatted with them for 30 seconds, thus gaining deep and otherwise inaccessible knowledge of their innermost psyches?
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camhead wrote: dynosore wrote: I met Palin a few years ago when she was still governor. I was fishing the king run on the Talkeetna and ran into her with her family. We chatted for 10 minutes or so. Say what you want, but they were a very down to earth, cool bunch of people. It's easy to cast stones when you've never met someone, and every aspect of their life is poured over by the media. She chokes under pressure and says some strange things, but my firsthand impression was that she's a tough, smart lady who loves her family. I personally cringe every time I hear BO speak, but I understand his appealing empty rhetoric is what people want to hear to soothe themselves. I wouldn't totally judge the man until I met him myself. I'm sure even he has some redeeming qualities. Sooo... you're not allowed to have opinions on public figures until you've chatted with them for 30 seconds, thus gaining deep and otherwise inaccessible knowledge of their innermost psyches?
Unless you disagree with them. Duh.
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